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So Asperger's was supposedly "discovered" in 1944, in Hitler occupied Austria. Is it out of the question that they were intentionally altering brains, given the interests of Hitler, Mengele and the rest? Brave New World is required reading during these times.

There is a catholic rite known as "Asperges", where the congregation is sprinkled with holy water (mercury?) and read psalm 51, which includes among other lines:

"blot out my transgressions.
Wash me throughly from mine iniquity, and cleanse me from my sin.
Behold, thou desirest truth in the inward parts: and in the hidden part thou shalt make me to know wisdom.
Purge me with hyssop, and I shall be clean: wash me, and I shall be whiter than snow."

blot out my transgressions? WHITER THAN SNOW?? Can you see why this terminology may be of interest to Hitler? Whiter than snow is not literal, but hopefully someone will catch my drift.

From Wikipedia:
Hitler and Catholic ritual
In his childhood, Hitler had admired the pomp of Catholic ritual and the hierarchical organisation of the clergy. Later, he drew on these elements, organizing his party along hierarchical lines and including liturgical forms into events or using phraseology taken from hymns.[46] Because of these liturgical elements, Hitler's Messiah-like status and the ideology's all-encompassing nature, the Nazi movement is sometimes termed a "political religion".[47] Hitler himself, however, strongly rejected the idea that Nazism was in any way a religion.

Did Hitler create Autism with the catholic church?
Interesting...

No, no, no, no, no
No way, absolutely no way
Negative, incorrect, unverifiable, nonsense
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! !! DO NOT WANT!

Seriously, no.

Unless this is satirical, in which case

Is that what I said?
Hitler was interested in control, catholicism, and eugenics, not necessarily working hand in hand with the catholic church.

GOD, what a STUPID idea! The catholic church has been around at LEAST the better part of a millennia, in it's current form, "Holy Water" is supposed to be simply water blessed by a priest! If it DID have mercury in it, the whole catholic church would probably have been wiped out in every meaning of the word hundreds of years ago! BTW the predominant religion in Germany is NOT catholicism! It at least WAS LUTHERAN!(I was surprised to find wikipedia says germany is 31% catholic, but it IS 39% protestant.) Though it IS similar to Catholic, in liturgy, and Lutheran DID start out catholic, it is DIFFERENT! Luther is the one that basically unified the German Language! HE basically did with the German language what the Catholic Church did with Latin!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther

BTW Austria is apparently mostly catholic, but still, the catholic church was under control of the pope, and do you REALLY think Hitler had the ability to change things like that? Do you think everyone would have let him? Do you think it would have been kept quiet? And WHY would he have done that the the general public WHOLESALE!?!?!? He hated the jews FAR more than the Catholics, it would have made more sense to infect Matza! BTW the priests, AND especially monks and nuns, would have been the first to see WILD problems, making such contamination obvious.

You have to realize that hilter controlled the citizens in THREE ways!

1. Some were afraid he WOULD hurt them!
2. Some were hurt, and hitler convinced them he would help!
3. Some wanted power/money in a DECENT country.

If he endangered them in such a widespread way, it would have gotten rid of EVERY hold on them.

BTW it is interesting to note that, apparently, he never even contaminated the matza even though, EVEN TODAY, jewish people are by far the most likely to have it.

Last edited by 2ukenkerl on 26 May 2008, 5:24 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Catholicism smears are fun.

Catholics cause global warming.

Yes, I heard that the Pope has an all-kitten diet.

BTW Asperges means sprinkle!

http://encyclopedia.jrank.org/ARN_AUD/A ... e_fro.html

And world hunger.

Aye, but that comes from the Latin verb aspergere, meaning 'to sprinkle.' It's not connected at all to Hans Asperger, whose surname means something like 'person who comes from Aspberg.'

Nevermind, 2ukenkerl got there first. Gah.

If you had actually read Orwell, respected his ideas in any way, and are not using that as an avatar to look smart, then you wouldnt be such a smartass about it. you're all totally missing the point. It is not the actually church or pope, it is HITLER and his interest in the church. Read more than one sentence before judgements

and this 2unkerkel or whatever is always around to refute anything that isnt the official state story. I know you're act

I've got the strangest feeling of deja-vu

Normally I'd think about putting together a reasoned argument, but the reality bus seems to have missed its stop in this thread.

I read your entire post, but it was such a ridiculous pile of crap that I didn't feel like putting effort into correcting it. BTW, I have read Orwell, several times. I've also read Brave New World, which you allude to in your OP... so what gives you the idea that BNW was required reading in Nazi Germany? It was published in Britain and America, I doubt Hitler would have been promoting it. Others have refuted your "Catholic mercury" nonsense, so I won't bother. As 2unkerkerl already pointed out, Hitler and the Catholic Church weren't exactly in bed with each other... maybe you should read up on Otto von Bismarck and Kulturkampf for some background on why.

Oh, and if Nazis created Aspies as part of some eugenics program, why are there Aspies all over the world? I haven't got a drop of German blood in me, and my ancestors were all already in the United States by 1944.

You're right about that! WOW! In a way, this whole site refutes "the official state story"! I'm certainly not brainwashed into believing much of the "state story" AT ALL and even what I DO "believe" is mostly stuff I am ready to hear different opinions on.

To accuse the catholic church of putting murcury in the holy water to try to brainwash people is CRAZY!

For those that don't know, holy water is often at EVERY entrance and EVERY pious person(Including EVERYONE associated with the church) is expected to go through a ritual so they will ALL have it on them. There is a gadget(I forget its name) that may be used down the isle and with the people associated with the church, that ALSO sprinkles the water. It is ALSO used for baptism/christening.

Even the dentistry profession, though they OTHERWISE claim it is safe, says that the little bit of mercury in "amalgam" fillings can be DANGEROUS if removed. Can you imagine being exposed to that much mercury, or MORE, several times a day 365 days a year?

In the US they don't even allow LEAD levels to be very high. SCHOOLS have been closed down because of such levels. LEAD contamination is to be expected to a degree because it is used in solder to solder copper pipes, etc... There is really NO excuse for mercury. Mercury is apparently WORSE than lead.

Might be off on the "who did what and what was their intent" but I love a good conspiracy theory...SOlent Green in on tonight...I loved the original can hardly wait to see how they have detroied it with clashas and over production of special effects...oh goody.

I don't think that we know everything the "sperimentors" were doing in genetic mutation experimentation...they sure liked twins(and still do). I would like to know what idiot thought mercury was an intelligent addiition to human teeth or their enoculations...not saying they cause autism just saying....a little comon sense. Actually the wild monkeys they use for making innoculations are an interesting story on its own.

Oh well OP. Who ever is doing what...it is sure that someone id doing something ...keep researching, you might just find it. Don't let these neigh sayers with their logic get in the way of progress....Before Eistein everyone though E=MR+ 42 (nieve fools)

By the way...while we are having fun...I loved The Wanting Seed<---should be on your reading lists.

Yeah. I actually asked what type of filling they were giviing me, and they said Amalgam. I didn't know what that was, but I was ok with their answer of silver EVEN though I thought the melting point of silver was too high. HEY, I was young, and didn't think as much as I should have.



You DO certainly have a point, but a LOT of people would LOVE to destroy the church. Most see that as the CATHOLIC church.

Interestingly, Catholicism can be considered a CULT! They pray to mary and the saints, and have the pope who is considered infallible. ALSO, mary is considered to be immaculate! NONE of that is Christian and it all flies in the face of it.

Still, even THAT has not been a very good secret.

Even the idea that a lot of perverts are in the catholic church isn't secret.