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01 Jun 2008, 6:40 pm

The reason I'm asking is, I know two people in my life, one being my mother, who actually seem outgoing, yet have quite a few aspie traits. Like neither of them can make or keep friends. They might make friends with someone since they don't seem to have fear for confronting people they don't know to talk, but the friendship only lasts for a little while and inevitably ends. And with my Mom, she has to have things her way or the highway, and she does not seem to empathize with other people. Like when I was sick when I was a kid she acted like she was really exasperated with me and she always exhibited an unusually high state of anxiety. And I don't know how many times things would seem to be going fine and out of the blue she'd explode and start ranting and raving about something really stupid, until everyone was really upset, and then suddenly after making us miserable, go back to being ok and wonder why we were all upset. I hesitate to say that either of them have aspergers, yet these examples, as well as having one-sided conversations when the other person seems to have lost interest... really makes me wonder. Like my Mom will go on and on about viruses, health related diseases... it's enough to turn my stomach. It's also very depressing and I try to tell her that and she doesn't care, she'll just keep going on and on about it. I used to say she was a very selfish person but maybe she can't help it.



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01 Jun 2008, 6:45 pm

I'm very outgoing, and very vocal.

I'm just loudly socially inept.

And my mum is the same way. My grandma has told me time and again that my mum is uncapable of loving someone, but I know thats not true. She just doesn't show it the normal way.


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01 Jun 2008, 6:59 pm

I'm a very outgoing person. I have a lot to say, and not just about my obsessions.


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01 Jun 2008, 8:38 pm

nettiespaghetti wrote:
The reason I'm asking is, I know two people in my life, one being my mother, who actually seem outgoing, yet have quite a few aspie traits. Like neither of them can make or keep friends. They might make friends with someone since they don't seem to have fear for confronting people they don't know to talk, but the friendship only lasts for a little while and inevitably ends. And with my Mom, she has to have things her way or the highway, and she does not seem to empathize with other people. Like when I was sick when I was a kid she acted like she was really exasperated with me and she always exhibited an unusually high state of anxiety. And I don't know how many times things would seem to be going fine and out of the blue she'd explode and start ranting and raving about something really stupid, until everyone was really upset, and then suddenly after making us miserable, go back to being ok and wonder why we were all upset. I hesitate to say that either of them have aspergers, yet these examples, as well as having one-sided conversations when the other person seems to have lost interest... really makes me wonder. Like my Mom will go on and on about viruses, health related diseases... it's enough to turn my stomach. It's also very depressing and I try to tell her that and she doesn't care, she'll just keep going on and on about it. I used to say she was a very selfish person but maybe she can't help it.


You have just described my mother exactly! I strongly suspect she has asperger's other than the being out going. When she meets new people they think she's amazing, funny etc but then they get to know her better and they become distant. I've always felt really bad for her over this. When she makes a new friend I always think, "I wonder how long this will last". When she tells me what she was like as a kid it sounds very Aspie. I can be out going now, I just don't care what other people think anymore.
I just told her that I think she does have Asperger's too and she said, "PROBABLY.. I DON'T CARE!" Then I asked what she thinks about that and she said, "*I'VE* GOT OVER IT!"
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01 Jun 2008, 9:01 pm

I'm outgoing.



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01 Jun 2008, 10:05 pm

I can fake it...;)



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01 Jun 2008, 10:09 pm

Hmmm that's really interesting! I'm learning so much from this board. To think someone else on here has a mother like mine! :) I have to say I've never quite met anyone like her! I think I was quite destined to be an aspie, because my mother seems to have met alot of the criteria, and so does my father. And according to my grandmother (whom I'm very sure is not) my mothers grandmother was the same way. Point being, I can definitely see a genetic trait being handed down.



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01 Jun 2008, 11:22 pm

There are other things besides Aspergers that causes people to not be able to hold onto friends and to rant and rave endlessly. I don't think your mom has AS just because of those behaviors.

But yes some people are outgoing and have AS. I can be really outgoing among some of my friends yet withdrawn around others.



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01 Jun 2008, 11:30 pm

I am usualy not very outgoing, but when I am doing a speech I can sudenly become very outgoing and quite confidet up on a stage. For this reason I enjoy doing speeches, but the aspie traits supposed to be opposit.


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01 Jun 2008, 11:34 pm

I'm a "high functioning" autistic who is very outgoing. In fact, I think I'm more outgoing than people care for. i just don't know where the happy medium is.


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02 Jun 2008, 12:50 am

I'm outgoing. But I need time to myself or I start stimming (more frequently) and snapping at people.

I'm just kind of stupid as to where to shut up.


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02 Jun 2008, 2:06 am

I used to be very outgoing when I was aged 8 and under. I was oblivious to the fact that people were making fun of me, or wanting me to stop talking. I would dance in public, sing in public, laugh really loudly and not really care about where I was or who I was around.

Now, I am the opposite. Quite reclusive and very quiet when out in public trying not to draw attention to myself.

So yes, aspies can be outgoing.


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02 Jun 2008, 3:06 am

Yes I'm outgoing myself.


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02 Jun 2008, 4:59 pm

It's a paradox. I can be outgoing yet I find it hard, if not impossible to make any long-lasting and real friendships. Maybe I've never had a proper chance to make friends, or maybe I'm scared that history will repeat itself. So yeah, that's me.


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03 Jun 2008, 8:51 am

Yes I think AS people can be outgoing, even very social, provided that they feel like it and become very comfortable with themselves and confident! It's the result of learning.



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03 Jun 2008, 9:02 am

I go to concerts, and I reviewed movies back when I was in high school which reqiured me to go to the theater (most of the time by myself), and I have a small group of friends.

But sometimes, I do like to be left alone, and many people mistake that for me being friendless or something. For instance with a couple of exceptions*, I like to sit in the back, by myself at a movie theater, which helped me concentrate on note taking when I reviewed movies, and I disliked playing outside when I was little mostly because all the children in my neighborhood (except for like three other kids) were far younger than me (really, when I was 10, most kids on my block were like 4 or 5). Also I used to "overuse" my friends (search them out, talk their ear off on crap they don't care about and after about two months they'd ignore for a month or so. I stopped doing that in about 7th grade).

*What is that exception you ask? "Rocky Horror".


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