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07 Aug 2008, 7:29 pm

It's now been 25 days since my last post in this thread, and 49 days since I first issued my challenge...

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I have selected a container. It's shape, dimensions, color(s), composition, and location are known only to me.

Inside the container I have placed three objects. Their shapes, sizes, colors, and compositions are also known only to me.

You may use any type of psychic ability to determine all of the details stated above, and report them back to me.

Your report must be of the form: "The container is shaped like a ________; it's about ____ tall, ____ wide, and ____ deep; it is colored ____; it is made of ________; and it is located at ________. Item number one is shaped like a ______; about ____ tall, ____ wide, and ____ deep; and it is made of ________. Item number two is shaped like a ______; about ____ tall, ____ wide, and ____ deep; and it is made of ________. Item number three is shaped like a ______; about ____ tall, ____ wide, and ____ deep; and it is made of ________."

Location may be a specific address, lattitude / longitude / elevation, or map coordinates.

Items may be designated by name, as in "The first item is a golf tee, the second item is a cinder block, and the third item is a roofing nail" (be assured that I may or may not place any or all of these items in the container).

Accurately describe each of these object in detail, and you wll have convinced me that psychic abilities exist. I will then post a statement that confirms this.

Fail to provide an accurate and detailed description, and you have proven nothing.

I will give no hints, nor will I not argue about my method. Take it or leave it as is.


... and I'm still waiting for a valid response.

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07 Aug 2008, 8:06 pm

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I was just wondering if any of the people here have had precognitive dreams. I'm not sure if I have AS (or "I am AS", how does one typically describe this?), but ever since puberty, some nights I dream of bits of events and experiences that later come to pass. I've kept a journal from time to time, so some of it is documented. It ranges from mundane events from the coming day to intense experiences that occur years later.

These days, I usually ignore these dreams because they can be a real bother at times. Here's why: almost everyone can get into watching a good movie to the point that they identify with a character, and they're completely engaged and attentive in this movie experience, right? How about having a dream sequence that immerses you in an excerpt of this experience with no context? You wake up thinking, "wow, that happened to me in the dream". If you've had events in dreams come to pass in real life, this could lead to the mistaken belief that it could happen to you. That's why I usually just write it off, because I can't focus, direct, or rely on precognition. I had a terrible dream one night, that my partner and I were being forcibly separated for some reason. I wrote down what I could remember the following morning (... we were wearing dark suits, kind of a cloak-and-dagger atmosphere...) in my journal, wondered if it was going to happen to us for a little while, but soon forgot about it. About a year later, I was munching popcorn with my sweetie at the local Cineplex, and saw the whole scene play out in a movie.


ive had this since i was about 7 or 8 years old, but its always been mundane things, and i usually forget the dreams while waking up and remember them when they happen, often predicting my own thoughts too :/ i dont think much of it, just some weirdness that doesnt give me any advantage with anything


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08 Aug 2008, 9:58 am

Fnord wrote:
It's now been 25 days since my last post in this thread, and 49 days since I first issued my challenge...

Fnord wrote:
I have selected a container. It's shape, dimensions, color(s), composition, and location are known only to me.

Inside the container I have placed three objects. Their shapes, sizes, colors, and compositions are also known only to me.

You may use any type of psychic ability to determine all of the details stated above, and report them back to me.

Your report must be of the form: "The container is shaped like a ________; it's about ____ tall, ____ wide, and ____ deep; it is colored ____; it is made of ________; and it is located at ________. Item number one is shaped like a ______; about ____ tall, ____ wide, and ____ deep; and it is made of ________. Item number two is shaped like a ______; about ____ tall, ____ wide, and ____ deep; and it is made of ________. Item number three is shaped like a ______; about ____ tall, ____ wide, and ____ deep; and it is made of ________."

Location may be a specific address, lattitude / longitude / elevation, or map coordinates.

Items may be designated by name, as in "The first item is a golf tee, the second item is a cinder block, and the third item is a roofing nail" (be assured that I may or may not place any or all of these items in the container).

Accurately describe each of these object in detail, and you wll have convinced me that psychic abilities exist. I will then post a statement that confirms this.

Fail to provide an accurate and detailed description, and you have proven nothing.

I will give no hints, nor will I not argue about my method. Take it or leave it as is.


... and I'm still waiting for a valid response.

:(


That challenge has nothing to to with what this thread is about.



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08 Aug 2008, 11:02 am

Wolfpup wrote:
That challenge has nothing to to with what this thread is about.

Quite the contrary; if someone provides accurate precognitive information per my challenge as stated, then I will believe that precognition is real, and not just something imagined.

Unless, of course, what you really mean is, "That challenge has no place in a website, forum, or thread where people are expected to believe in unfounded claims."


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08 Aug 2008, 11:33 am

What you're asking for has nothing to do with what many of us have described whatsoever, and possibly nothing to do with precognition.



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08 Aug 2008, 11:45 am

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What you're asking for has nothing to do with what many of us have described whatsoever, and possibly nothing to do with precognition.

Explain, please, how a "genuine" precognitive ability could not be used to predict what is inside a container when I open it - or even which container I open - in the future?


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08 Aug 2008, 11:57 am

No one on here (to my knowledge) had made the claim they can do that, or has described anything like that. That's not what this thread is about.



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08 Aug 2008, 12:04 pm

Wolfpup wrote:
No one on here (to my knowledge) had made the claim they can do that, or has described anything like that. That's not what this thread is about.

There are numerous claims of precognitive ability throughout this thread. I'm providing the means for the claimants to prove their claims. If they do not accept the challenge, then it is because they are either unable or unwilling to do so.


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08 Aug 2008, 12:06 pm

I probably haven't ever single post in this thread, but I've read a lot, and not one is claiming to have this all powerful ability that you're describing. Your test has NOTHING TO DO with anything I've read in this thread.



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08 Aug 2008, 12:23 pm

Wolfpup wrote:
I probably haven't ever single post in this thread, but I've read a lot, and not one is claiming to have this all powerful ability that you're describing. Your test has NOTHING TO DO with anything I've read in this thread.

Then you have not read any of the posts in this thread. A test for precognition had everything to do with claims of precognition, or even a discussion thereof.

If you have a problem with that, then take it up with the moderators.


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08 Aug 2008, 12:26 pm

Fnord wrote:
Wolfpup wrote:
I probably haven't ever single post in this thread, but I've read a lot, and not one is claiming to have this all powerful ability that you're describing. Your test has NOTHING TO DO with anything I've read in this thread.

Then you have not read any of the posts in this thread. A test for precognition had everything to do with claims of precognition, or even a discussion thereof.


I've read probably most of this thread, and haven't seen one person claim to be able to do what you're demanding they do. Ergo your test has nothing to do with this thread.



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08 Aug 2008, 12:40 pm

Fnord wrote:
... and I'm still waiting for a valid response.


Sorry Fnord, haven't had any since the Tommy Boy incident.

Though I did have a dream that I was making Chicago dogs, and a a few days later, we ended up having all the ingredients, so I made some...I consider that more of a cooincidence than a premonition, though (I'm sure you'll agree with me).


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08 Aug 2008, 2:26 pm

SabbraCadabra wrote:
Fnord wrote:
... and I'm still waiting for a valid response.

Sorry Fnord, haven't had any since the Tommy Boy incident.

No worries ... take your time ... as much as you want ...


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