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have any among you been a rebel at school or are?
I was expelled from my last year hig school because I refused to study and comply with a Catholic dogma (the Pope is infallible) and was sent away from school one month before the end with no degree.
Ever since I rebelled against any authority (my father to begin with), and now the whole world

Last edited by Loborojo on 25 Aug 2008, 5:22 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Good for you for rebelling against Catholicism. I have some serious issues with a lot of that.

I've not rebelled much, but I have a bit. I've been sent out of lessons maybe four times in my life, usually for stupid reasons.

But was it really worth forfeiting his degree for ?
Christ, half the bloody school was probably privately atheist anyway.

Nah of course not, but at least he pissed away his degree for good reason we gotta think positive, people!

I don't rebel I question. Questioning authority is absolutely necessary, however you cannot blindly reject everything authority says because assuming every person with authority is corrupt is just as blind as assuming no one in authority is corrupt.

However I do wonder why the Catholics view the pope as infallible. The Pope, just like every head of every other denomination, is a man and as a man he can make mistakes.

Seems to me to be a vestige of the same sort of thing as royalty being chosen by the god(s) of whatever civilization they were the head of.

The Catholics view the Pope this way because the Liturgy and Catechism proclaims the Pope is God's representative on earth so if you are a good Catholic you have no choice but to believe the Pope is as infallible as God.

I'd have to conclude that it's a thow-over from the Medieval Catholic church. I hope one day the Catholic church will go through and abandon traditions lacking biblical justification. Since the Bible does not lay out any description for the head of the church.

I think the first Pope was Saint Peter so the tradition goes way back to the roots of the Catholic church, if you believe their rhetoric on the subject. Some people dispute this.

Whether they realize it or not, it is a well known fact that the first pope WAS NOT and COULD NOT have been "saint" peter! WHY?

1. Jesus said that you shall call NONE father but GOD!
2. Christianity and the Bible says to listen to/pray to JESUS, or God, NOT Mary or "saints".
3. Jesus said that ONLY God can forgive sin, etc...
4. Timothy says that pastors and leaders should be MARRIED WITH KIDS!
5. Catholicism has NO known history in the roots of Christianity, because if they did, they wouldn't have had the hard time GUESSING the date! People STILL say it is likely off by at least a few years!

HECK, Popes have even said that mary was born without sin! That REALLY makes you wonder! And the idea that the pope is infallible, holy, and can forgive sin? EVEN if that only refers to spiritual, it still likens him to God!

HECK, they may even use the fact that Jesus said "on this rock" to mean PETER, which variants in some languages means rock, and forget about the fact that it is FAR more likely that he meant it to mean ROCK(foundation or stable ground). HECK, he may not have even had meant the person, which would contradict much of what he said, but the FAITH, which is in line with what he said.

Besides, the idea of ROCK as a foundation goes back millenia. The tie to peter may only go back a couple hundred years.

If the School sends you away without a degree because you don't study for an insignificant religious class, they are VIOLATING their MORAL OBLIGATION as a school, and should have any tax exempt status and other benefits PULLED! They are certainly not doing ANYTHING to support their positions.

I rebelled, but only because I was a teenager who like screwing around.

I also was and am the kind of person who questions, even if they do nothing else, and gets in trouble for such. If something is false or morally wrong, or seems to be, I'll question it until I get resolution.

However, I also broke policy rules at school and stuff. No, not big things like drug use or something like that. I did get in a fight once and ditch homeroom a lot though, mostly because of bullying in both cases. I would just wear little things that weren't quite compatible with the uniform code, or be the only girl in the school to wear pants instead of a skirt as part of the uniform, or skip standardized testing that didn't actually reflect on me as much as it did the school, or eat lunch in places I wasn't supposed to. The beautiful thing about it was, though, that at a certain point, they really couldn't do anything about it. Well, not if they didn't want to get rid of their one and only National Merit Finalist, as well as one of the few people in my class who was going to go onto a prestigious college. Eventually I found that following the big rules enabled me to break the little ones that I could actually put up a fight about... and also put me in the position where I could question school policies and teachers more, either through the newspaper or directly, than some of my peers would. It made some of the more authoritarian types hate my guts, but it was totally worth it.

I didn't intentionally rebel, although I did resent authority a little bit when I didn't see the terrible dangers they were trying to rescue me from. So I usually went ahead and did what I wanted later, figuring I'd luck or reason my way out of any major consequences, which happened quite often.

I never intentionally did anything to make anyone mad or get into trouble. I remember being quite proud that the church I played organ at still let me keep my job, even with my new nosering.

was a coward irl for most of HS, and did more fun stuff Senior Year (running across the street and back to get pizzas; denying the holocaust in front of a jewish judge, showing goatse and Lolicon to debate partners at City Championship tourney, denying god and pulling the "if god is here, strike me down" cliche arguments atheists use in debate tournaments, saying 'nuke africa', denying africa exists, etc senior year in debate. shared bootleg copied of halo senior year, help share it as a friend of mine d/ld it. got whole rooms playing LAN games

edit. well i made some sun tin foil hats i wore sophmore year. not too much 'rebellion' in school. begun making up those fun debate arguments later-on junior year.

EDIT: sry for any bad spelling, I'm typing on a unfamiliar keyboard in dark

Yeah, this more or less sums up my major problems with the ideal of the Pope too.