Asperger's, the Law, and POLICE

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Greetings all WP'ers

If any of you have ever had to deal with the police in any way, I am curious to know your experiences. Were you treated respectfully, or were you ridiculed and belittled?

The reason I am posting this is I have been under police surveillance for some time on allegations that the complainant (or complainants) has not been able to prove against me.

Because my condition is known to them, I am considered a "mental" case and I know I will be under their surveillance for a long time to come. When it comes to "special needs" people, they are extra attentive in their surveillance details.

It is very well known in my area that the authorities are every thing but kind and tolerant of people who are "different".

Please, no sympathy or "sorry to hear about it's", just your experiences.

I welcome any good advice you may have and I hope to talk about more at length with you.

btw -I did see that video clip somebody posted here before about dealing with the boys in blue.

The police are leeches on society.

just a few weeks ago I was stopped by the police when I was just coming home and trying to get into my house (which is a big dark warehouse)....um...anyway...naturally I panicked...I caled them the enemy, and asked them if they had a search warrant...it was an overly unpleasant experience...they took my id and made me call Flakey so that he could verify that I was supposed to be there even though I had my keys in the door.

I was a total mess for th rest of the night and into the next day.

I found it very hard to keep my cool, and apparently I was not supposed to ask them if I had a search warrant, because that was just my giving evidence that I had something to hide (which I didn't)....


rawwwr!! !

I've had a few encounters with them...the worst I ever got was a slap on the wrist (not literally) and they took my name and birthday and threw it into a computer.

Didn't know about autism back then. Now that I do, I don't think my encounters would be any different.

I'm suspicious just because I don't have contact with family or any friends, am not married, have no partner or kids. It saves me a lot of suspicion when I do have a job, but they're hard for me to hold down. Then I make them more suspicious with my "different"way of seeing things and behaving, and they'll see me as dangerous even if I don't harm anyone. I try to stay away from authority of that kind as much as I can, just like all minorities do (homosexuals, Jews, foreign workers, etc.)

I've been stopped for traffic violations and I try to be respectful and polite. Generally if you are polite and respectful to them they will treat you fairly. Then again a traffic violation is a small fine and that's it. It if was a criminal matter I would clam up and simply tell them to talk to my attorney.

How do you know you're being monitored? Doesn't the whole point of monitoring require that the person being monitored doesn't know about it? Or is it just the circumstance that makes it probable you are being monitored?

I remember being stopped by a car after a male and female were reported with some suspicious activity around it. I knew both of the people who WERE there. I asked them the details, the police said in response to my "What were the descriptions given to you?" was "male and female"
"Anything else that may definitely exclude me?"
The male was not even Caucasian in appearance, yet I was.....

After being arrested on another matter - long story ... After being dragged away in an uncomfortable "blind" situation with blood over my face and I don't like not being able to see nor having the inability to clear my face of anything that shouldn't be there, I got seriously pissed for not being in a proper fashion for walking using my own legs, I kicked out and tripped the officer to my side, and the lunged me into the floor, and I hate the floor, anything could be on there ...

Presuming bastards... I hate them ... "You must have left your phone in the car ....." "Your keys are still probably in the car too..."

Two sentences that piss me off more every time they come into my head.

The keys were in my hand as I removed them from the ignition, the phone was in my pocket as they hauled me out before I had a chance to respond... Could have easily been a car-jacking situation.

Then there's "security" in shopping centres ... asking me to move, how can I move if they are in my way, most people use their arms, I use only body momentum and my hands don't have anything to do with it. I can sit on the floor with or without anything in my hands. Then they drag me out of there for not being able to get up properly, the only way left was to lean left or right ... That was just not possible. I may go back there someday just to annoy them

I was in a social security place where phones are not permitted, "can't you see the sign, no phones allowed" ???
Then the guy decides to place his arm on or near me at an amount I couldn't stand and instantly lashed out with enough power to cause a bruise and make him withdraw instantly. I mean, surely signs should not be with all the others in capital letters. Which sign? It's like a librarian asking "Can't you see the book I'm pointing to?"

Another time I got pulled over, I decided to park in a manner that was safe for all. His question was annoyingly accusing. "Why did you park/ pull over there? Were you trying to hide out the way?"
"What? I pulled over in a deliberate and safe manner"

Yes! Another time... I got pulled (again) and I was instantly asked "How much have you had to drink tonight, sir!?" "I haven't. Sometimes my speech is slurred, doesn't mean I've been drinking" (Sometimes my speech can sound similar to a drunk on standard cola)

So - all in all, not many run-ins with the law

I had finished my truck to run dual fuel on ammonia with gasoline and I ran out of ammonia. I wanted to get some more ammonia so that I could do some more testing, which was needed so that I could finish achieving degree candidacy and move on to the thesis work. I also wanted to demonstrate a cross country trip on ammonia while using a minimal amount of gasoline, refueling at the farm and feed stores along the way. I wanted to show the feasibility of this fuel on the basis of its availability, economics, fuel consumption compared to that of operation on gasoline alone, and vehicle driving range between fillups. I had investigated the specifics of hooking up to the stores' fill hoses, and I equipped the truck with a fill connector which makes refilling the ammonia tank physically possible.

One of my dissertation committee members and I approached a farm and feed store manager about filling the ammonia tank, and he was reluctant to do so because it's OK to purchase the stuff by the ton and dump it on the ground as the farmers do, but suspicions are raised when one wants to buy 100 lbs of the stuff. I should have taken the store manager's apparent ignorance of the price of the products he sells and his demonstrated fear of his products as a warning, but my enthusiasm for the project had blinded me to this consideration at the time. (How in the hell did this guy end up in charge of a business!?)

The store manager apparently agreed to fill the tank, but the tank fill guy was not around so he said to come back another day. I called to see if the tank fill guy was in, and made arrangements to have the ammonia tank filled at the farm and feed store. (Calling ahead was a mistake?) When I got there the police were waiting for me. My attempt to buy ammonia got me a three star wanted level (but without the helicopter) and I was taken aside for questioning. After I explained what I was doing about 7 officers in 5 unmarked cars followed me over to the machine shop owned by the guy who helped me build the truck's fuel system.

The truck was confiscated for about 1 hour until a professor verified my story, that my project was preliminary work soon to be officially recognized by the university. I then got my truck back, thanks to the "Rosenberg"esque contact made by my professor, and I was free to go. The police were actually very polite and professional, and there really wasn't anything about them that rubbed me the wrong way.

I learned that solving the technical problems in this project would be relatively easy, compared to the problem of dealing with treacherous SOB's such as the farm and feed store manager. This was a major example of how I have had difficulties working out other people's intentions. Apparently I was supposed to dig out a meaning from nuances in expression, which was actually the opposite of what the store manager said, although I suppose I should have been able to read his intentions from the situation instead. Naturally I can see the elements of the situation after the fact. Now I know, but put me in a different situation and it might turn out like this all over again.


"Just don't shoot me, officer." --Tommy Vercetti

I have been pulled over a few times. Last time it was June 27th 2006. Before it was around February 20th that same year. Before that, it was back in 2003 in June.


I have argued with the officers yeah and one of them told me "If you are going to argue with me, I will give you a ticket." I shut up.

When they pull you over, sometimes they ask you stupid questions like "How old are you?" "When is your birthday?" even though they saw your lisence. But answer them anyway because it is their way of verifying it is your lisence and you aren't using someone else's because what if you have a twin sibling or a sibling that looks exactly like you.

The worst encounter I ever had was being arrested because someone store owner thought I took a video tape from his store without paying for it. I was handcuffed and taken in but I was not put in the cell. They asked for my phone number and they dialed it and told them I had been arrested and to come and get me. They told them why I was arrested though. But before I got arrested, they pull me over in the parking lot (it was actually a street and I thought it was a parking lot because it does look like one because it is between the gas station and the supermarket and it has no curbs on it. Lot of people think it's a parking lot) and they didn't even ask to search my car, instead they asked me to step out after they saw my lisence and insurence, then they told me I was arrested. These were volunteer officers, not the real ones.
And they had the car towed and my dad had to pay to get it out of the yard. My parents were not happy about the way it was handled. They didn't file a complaint or anything or sue the store owner. Instead he refused to show my mother the video when she asked to see it. The store has a video camera. I was so upset that night I didn't want to go to the home coming parade or even to the football game or to the school dance. I just go for my own fun, not to chit chat or hang out. I went to school dances for the music only. I didn't go to all football games. Only a few. But I got over it on Monday when I went to school and everyone knew about it but they believed me when I told them what happened. I thought I might have to transfer to another school in another town because I thought the kids might not trust me thinking I am a thief and things change for me in school. But none of that happened so why still be upset about the police incident. But it did take me a while to go back to the store and look around. Took me over a year in fact.

People who bully others gravitate towards law enforcement, unfortunately.

Cops generally suck.

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt60458.html Read that post i made awhile ago, that explains how i feel about cops! I still dont trust many cops to this day, and will have a siezure if i see their blinking lights!

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Being Normal Is Vastly Overrated

I have a thing with flashing lights, they are either on or off .... Sooo many times have I been swayed at being "like a deer in headlights" towards them ... OR ... flash them back ... copy them -

"...where I caused the occupant to stop..." - Have they got control of my brake pedal, let me see .... NOPE!! ! I got control of it I'm stopping when I'm ready.

OK, so I MAY have issues.... Never mind

I've been picked on many times by the police because of my "suspicious" nature. Mind you I've never had a warrant, conviction, or any other charge against me; it's just the fellow "villagers" who complain of my peculiar and stand-offish behaviour.

During my late teen years, they'd always pull me over, frisk me, and search my car (I have a really funny story about that too.) In my early twenties they'd just make up some false excuse to pull me over and harass me about "drug trafficking." Then around the age of twenty-five I developed quite a nasty mouth and really smart ways to deter cops from getting around me. I educated myself about the law.

One night, after having about ten shots of whiskey, I was pulled over by a highway patrol officer. I swear he had to of known I was drunker than heck but basically, I argued with him to the point of him asking me if I was a lawyer, and I replied honestly (which I'm not.) He let me drive home, which was only about a mile away anyway.

Please don't follow what I did though, you may not be so lucky. I hear awful stories about how some aspies get picked on horribly by the police, and I wouldn't want anything on my conscience about any of you. There are many bad police, but there are also really good cops out there too; and I don't want to leave that out --not all cops are bad, some have really good rationale and realize that there more to life than the extension that badge has on their so called "manhood."

Here's my two cents. f**k the police. I'm with NWA on this one. The police are more criminal than the criminals themselves, but hey, I live in Baltimore, so that's common knowledge over here. The cops are racist too. And they are also classist, meaning if you are poor they will treat you a lot worse.

I have been arrested and charged with assault when I was 16 for getting into a fight with some f****r, very long story and I don't really want to go into it. I for one hated the whole situation.