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25 Jul 2008, 7:40 am

I'm thinking of getting a second opinion in a couple of months, but before I waste my money, I want to ask a couple of questions off you guys:

1. does anyone here not have any stims? I don't twirl my fingers or fidget much (I used to chew my hair and have a tendency to run up and down when excited, but I don't rock or anything

2. does anyone here not have over-sensitivity? I'm the complete opposite (except for noise, which I hate): I have a high pain tolerence.

These are the main 'bullet points' that I don't fit; I have the social awkwardness, the weird walk, feel like I've learnt facial expressions from a text book etc... but I've been diagnosed with 'moderate depression' and 'low self-esteem' instead. Do you reckon it's worth my while getting a second opinion?

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25 Jul 2008, 7:57 am

Sound like me.

I had a few stims when I was a child; head-banging and such, but I've grown out of those.
As for over senstivity; some textures still irritate me, and I am somewhat photosensitive.



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25 Jul 2008, 8:25 am

I'd say get a 2nd opinion just so you know. Can't say any more really but all the best :)



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25 Jul 2008, 8:30 am

As for over-sensitivity:
I have a very high pain tolerance too. Things like cutting my finger don't bother me much. I once stretched my leg on a trecking tour and managed to go on for several miles. Then rested afew days in a hotel and went on through the swiss Alps.
But still I'm sensitive to lots of other things like noise (hate it) and several kinds of clothing (never waer socks, hate that permanent slight pressure).


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25 Jul 2008, 9:18 am

I have several stims, but not over-sensitivity. At least not in the form that many describe it here.

What might come most close to sensory issues is:
I have a tendency to react a little bit "more" than most people when touched unexpectedly, but it's not close to the horrible feeling many aspies describe. Maybe it's more because it's unexpected than sensory as such.
I can't sleep without having the quilt over my head, prefer to wrap my arms around me when I'm about to sleep, and like sleeping with the quilt wrapped tight around me (not necessary for sleeping, though).
When going clothes-shopping with others, I've always disliked having to put clothes on and off and on and off... because I think it's troublesome and I get tired, but I don't know if it's a sensory issue thing or an aspie thing at all, but I've not met others who feel that way about changing clothes again and again in a shop. They just seem to think it's all fun.



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25 Jul 2008, 11:51 am

I also have a super high pain tolerance. But noises will get me every time.

Chewing your hair etc. can qualify as stimming.


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25 Jul 2008, 11:52 am

Quote:
1. does anyone here not have any stims?

I don't really seem to. Not any "classic" ones at least.

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2. does anyone here not have over-sensitivity? I'm the complete opposite (except for noise, which I hate): I have a high pain tolerence.

I'm a bit photosensitive, and hate loud noises. That's about it. And a very high pain tolerence here as well. It's not that it doesn't hurt, just that I can ignore it.



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25 Jul 2008, 11:54 am

Usually, people with AS don't have a clinical level of "stims"/motor mannerisms, and the problems with sensory perception aren't as marked/severe as Autism.

High pain tolerance is a sensory thingy.



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25 Jul 2008, 12:45 pm

You may be hypo sensitive....both my daughters and I are more undersensitive than sensitive. We seek sensory input and also have a high pain tollarance. I am sensitive to light and sound...more so now that Im older.
I stimm like crazy but I read that some older people with AS tend to channel thier stimming into something less noticeable like playing solitare, ect.



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25 Jul 2008, 12:46 pm

I used to stim a lot, but not so much anymore.


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25 Jul 2008, 1:23 pm

My traits show when I am stressed. When life is going really well and I am not mixing with people too much, then I have hardly any stimming or anything, you wouldn't know I have an ASD, well not too much anyway.



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25 Jul 2008, 1:33 pm

In a "normal" situation, I don't stim much. I've switched from biting my nails, to sucking on my teeth, or grinding them. Having a stim "realized" is a real good way to stop it as well. Used to slap myself in the head all the time for screwing up, then someone asked me why the hell I did that. Was embarrased as all hell and didn't do it again. I've noticed a lot of the things I do are disappearing, almost seems to be the result of finding out about AS. I don't jackhammer my legs as much, bite my nails, or do a few other things as much.

As for pain, I used to have my brother bite my arms as a child. Most minor injuries (shooting self with staple gun, air powered) are really nothing at all in terms of pain. Noise is something I am quite sensitive to as well, people around me like to "surprise" me, as they get a kick out of the reaction (generally a f-ing weird spaz thing), but small noises are the worst. People chewing, people talking quietly, and generally anything that breaks what might be perfect silence. Crowds don't bug me, I kinda "melt" into the atmosphere, malls and big huge stores don't bother me either. This seems to be where I break from Aspies...


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25 Jul 2008, 1:46 pm

You may just have social awkwardness...my understanding is that to have AS you must have some degree of social awkwardness, obsessive behavior, and stimulatory problems (stimming or sensitivity). Being awkward could be just a personality trait, but the introduction of strange physical and obsessive behavior seems to indicate the brain has some kind of serious problem.



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25 Jul 2008, 2:02 pm

I received a negative answer to an AS evaluation from an autism clinic at a major state university. I sought a second opinion from a neuropsychologist, and received an equivocal negative answer, due mainly to a lack of early childhood information regarding developmental milestones. My parents are deceased, and thus early childhood information was not available for diagnosis.
I am now attending regular counseling, and the psychologist I am seeing is convinced I have AS. I confess that I am left somewhat confused, but I know there is something which must explain my eccentricity, and history of poor socialization and executive decision making.
I recommend seeking a second opinion, if that is an affordable option.


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05 Sep 2008, 10:46 am

Sorry for the lack of reply to this topic; I've been away from WP for quite a while. I've read through all the responses though and there's definitely some interesting points made. Thanks everyone!



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05 Sep 2008, 3:22 pm

I don't stim much now...

When I was a kid I did but because there was no dx of Autism or ASpie I was just ruled as a "trouble maker, "spoiled brat" & "disruptive". I use to spin, flap & fly like a plane, bite my nails, grind my teeth & chew my hair.
However, now I don't do any of those things. I still jump around if I get really excited. Sometimes I am Hyper for no reason at all.

My pain tolerance is quite high ~ I am quite clumsy and have broken most of my toes but Since I know the don't do anything for broken toes I just don't bother taking myself to the doctor. I have also ripped the tendon on my right ankle and still didn't go to the doctor... I just went back to work. It's still messed up, my current doctor found it and said I should have it fixed sugically.... yea!! no thanks ~ I just know that ankle is weaker that the other.

Sudden loud noises startle me but I don't think that is a "Spectrum Thing" thats a human thing. 8O

I don't like crowds but more because I prefer not to be around people, cuz people suck..