Primary Vs Secondary Blepharospasm

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Primary Vs Secondary Blepharospasm / Brain-damage-induced Vs Non-Brain-damaged-induced Eyelid-twtiching/Eye-blinking - Brief Explanations


Please refer to the following medical explanations entitled 'Primary Vs Secondary Blepharospasm' which is actually an excerpt of my reply to the other party and I hope that the information given will be useful to the intended readers. Thank you.


Quotation :


" 'However, from this posting I have much more clearly understood that your blepharospasm symptoms are a form of secondary blepharospasm, not primary or conventional BEB. BEB is assumed to be a by-product of malfunctioning in the basal ganglia area of the brain, with no known specific cause, but essentially representing a breakdown in the electrical functioning of the brain that occurs at nature's whim, and for which some small proportion of the general population is vulnerable.'


My Reply :


To a very great extent, I do agree with your medical reasoning.


In such critical chronic cases of degenerative neurological / nervous disorders which involve permanent damages of the cerebrum / Celebral Cortex and Central nervous systems /other brain-related damages as Chorea, Celebral Palsy, Multiple Sclerosis, Alzheimers / Senile Dementia, Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy (BSE) / Mad cow disease, Parkinsonism, chronic epilepsy/ brain seizures / etc for which there are permanent losses of brain masses / sensory / motor neurons and what you have described as 'malfunctioning in the basal ganglia area of the brain', no 100 % definite cure would be available (in whatsoever cases) in such scenarios due to the underlying fact that neurons / nerve fibres / brain cells cannot regenerate themselves in that when they are totally damaged / destroyed / lost, they are gone forever.


As such, in the cases described above there would hardly be any nerve impulses that would be able to be smoothly and perfectly sent from the brain to direct / result in any bodily movements / motions in the naturally smooth and totally unimpeded ways in the cases as explained above.


Quotation :


'As a skeptic about alternative medicines, I would not expect solutions to BEB from say acupuncture, but I am more open the idea of alternative solutions like acupuncture being helpful in secondary blepharospasm, as in your case of Risperdal induced Tardive Dyskinesia.'


My Reply :


However, in the case of so-called 'secondary blepharospasm' that you have mentioned in your reply, such kind of disorder in most cases actually doesn't involve direct damages of / to the brains / central nervous systems and permanent damages / losses of the motor/ sensory neurons like the chronic cases I have explained above. In such a connection, if the neurons / nerve cells (the cells that are specialized to conduct nerve impulses from the brain to conduct / control the human body movements/motions) actually do not suffer any serious / permanent / irrepairable damages but instead have just their normal functionings of conducting such nerve impulses from the brain disturbed by the other substances that antagonize the neurotransmitters (such as dopamine / serotonin / acetylcholine) comprised in them (the neurons / nerve cells) , a cure from acupuncture to get rid of such neurotransmitter-blocking/disturbing substances (that antagonize the neurotransmitter ) from the related peripheral nerves around the muscles would be available (such as the one I have suggested for Tardive Dyskinesia-induced eyelid-twitching). And please bear in mind that as long as the neurons / nerve fibres/ brain cells / central nervous system (which is made up mainly of the brain and spinal cord) do not suffer any damages/disorders, neurotransmitters (the key elements of neurons) can always be renewed, generated and secreted (by the neurons).


In fact among the eyelid-twitching / eye-blinkng cases that I have observed in my real life and the ones aired over the internet, I just find out and deduce from such related posts that lots of such people would tend to have this so-called 'secondary blepharospasm' problem (otherwise they would have faced great cognitive difficulties to get their problems articulately accounted over the internet and at the same time, suffered from other far more serious neurological complications apart from the blepharospasm alone).


Besides, for most of the neurodegenerative disorders that involve direct serious damages to / in the brain, celebral cortex, spinal cord, neurons / nerve fibers such as the ones that I have mentioned earlier as above, they are in most cases actually verifiable and observable through medical means of CT Scanning and MRI examinations. Whereas, in the case of bodily chemical imbalances which is caused mainly by the interruptions to the normal impulse-relaying activities of neurotransmitters in the neurons (which is not damaged / destroyed), such a medical phenomenon / disorder would actually by no means could be revealed / observable / diagnosed through such medical scanning examinations alone.


As a matter of fact, based on my experience of getting my Tardive Dyskinesia-induced eyelid-twitching / eye-blinking totally cured, I just found out that there are simply certain areas for which the western medical Science appear to be rather inadequate. (For example, such technologies of dealing effectively and precisely with the purely peripheral-nerves-related muscle disorders simply are not available in this mainstream medical field - and that's why my earlier attempts to search for a cure for my eye-sickness from the formal western medications turn out to be futile / hardly yields any permanent and satisfactory results).


Hence, from the viewpoint of a patient who is concerned about nothing else but just for an effective cure for such an annoying sickness, I'm just in an opinion that the suggested acupuncture cure, which have empirically provided great curative benefits to me and other people to whom I have recommended it both in my real life and through the emails, is a more practical and realistic approach of dealing with such a problem.


Quotation :


'I am sorry to hear that the medical profession in your country seems ignorant of the side effects of some of these drugs. We have discussed elsewhere on the board this lack of awareness more generally in the medical profession, so you are less alone in this than you may think, unfortunately.


So I think that the main message we should take from your notes, is to keep ourselves thoroughly aware of which drugs are known to be dangerous in terms of inducing things like blepharospasm. The BEBRF blue brochure lists these, and they have also been listed on this site (see the link below). The only constructive suggestion I can make is for us all to ensure our own doctors of whatever specialty are aware of these drugs and their side-effects, which we can do by informing them, perhaps by sending them the BEBRF brochure.


Thank you for once again warning us of the dangers of certain anti-psychotic drugs, and glad to hear that your symptoms are relieved by acupuncture.'


My Reply :


Actually as a social worker working for the healthcare and benefits of the others, I do hope that such a saddening scenario of the various exploitations of basic medical rights that are denied to certain 'underprivileged' individuals due to 'imperfect information', ignorance on the part of the patients, geographical differences (modern vs less-developed nations), deliberate exploitation by certain profit-driven individuals who have lesser or no regard at all for medical ethics and human lives etc, would come to an end one day. In this regard, I do hope that such relevant regulatory bodies as Food and Drug Administration (FDA) etc and other charity organizations as well as the kind and benevolent individuals elsewhere all around the world would be kind and generous enough to extend their invaluable and prodigious supports in any forms whatsoever for such a humanitarian cause. Thank you.

Last edited by ntuc on 08 Sep 2008, 10:03 am, edited 2 times in total.

Stress-induced Vs Medication-induced Blepharospasm / Eyelid-twitching / Eye-blinking


Given below is another excerpt of my reply to the other party giving additional details about my healing experience from such chronic involuntary uncontrollable purposeless non-stop rapid eyelid-twitching / eye-blinking sickness and I hope that the information given will again be useful to the intended readers. Thank you.


Quotation :

'This is great information. I had twitching in only one eye and I tracked it down to stress. I reduced my stress levels and the twitching stopped.'


My Reply :

Thanks for your feedback.


Actually you really reminded me of the several diagnoses given to me by some of the doctors, especially the general practioners from whom I had desperately sought repeated treatments during the initial stages for my prolonged chronic rapid eyelid-twitching/eye-blinking sickness and as a matter of fact, all of them just told me that such a 'visually incapacitating' symptom was purely stress-induced and it would just automatically 'go away' when my life / I would come to be less-stressful one day. In the end, almost all of them just gave me such medications as eye drops, neurobions, vitamin/mineral pills and numerous anti-muscle-spasm pills/injections for my incessantly rapid twitching eyelids / eye-blinkings.


Unfortunately, they all turned out to be completely helpless in coping with my rapid eyelid-twitching / eye-blinking sickness. And kindly be informed that I had quited my job by the time I sought most of the medical treatments from them and there's simply no way that my life was 'stressful' by that time (I took plenty of rest at home during that 'jobless' period).


Actually when these 'normal treatments' turned out to be futile while the medical MRI & CT scanning simply showed no signs of brain / central nervous systems / neurons / brain cells damages at all (as a matter of fact, such movement disorders caused purely by bodily chemical imbalaces due to disturbances to the impulse-relaying chemical agents - neurotransmitters -such as acetylcholine, dopamine, serotonin etc which are produced by the neurons / nerve cells, simply could not be revealed / observable / diagnosed through such medical scanning examinations alone - please refer to : Primary Vs Secondary Blepharospasm), the related medical experts just labelled the sickiness as 'undiagnosable' and instead just referred me to a neurosurgeon who eventually gave me Botox injections to temporarily half-paralyse my eyelid muscles to deal with the rapid eyelid-twitchings / eye-blinkings.


In your case, I should say that you are far luckier than me to get such eyelid-twitching / eye-blinking problem solely due to stress which in turn will just 'go away' by itself when your life turns out to be less stressful one day.


Whereas, in my case for which the chronic eyelid-twitching / eye-blinking that is due to neurological side effects of medications (which antagonize the neurotransmitters in the nervous system), it would simply require some far larger efforts and one's willingness to try anything (all the alternative therapies like acupuncture, massage, chiropractic etc) as well as some 'chance and luck' to eventually get it totally healed (otherwise there wouldn't be so many people complaining about such a chronic sickness which have remained uncured for these people for a number of years both over the internet and in real life).


As such, by posting articles about my healing experiences for such a prolonged chronic 'visually incapacitating' sickness of rapid eyelid-twitching / eye-blinking over the internet, I hope that I will eventually be able to reach out to more and more such needy people elsewhere and anywhere so that they will somehow at least get a cue and some relevant ideas about the probable causes and ways of dealing with their like-sicknesses.


Lastly, I hope that my posts will be useful to such intended readers. Thank you. "

A New Version For The Self-administered Acupuncture Cure For Non-stop Persistent Eyelid-twitching



Thanks for taking an interest in my posts made in this website. At the same time, I also have received lots of positive feedbacks from my email inbox from other persons (troubled by such annoying non-stop eyelid twitching sickness) giving thanks to me for the curative benefits they experience upon exercising the suggested alternative instrument-aided self-administered acupuncture method.


In response to the additional enquiries about the suggested self-administered acupuncture method that these persons have made to me so far through the emails, I thus would like to provide to the intended readers a new version about this acupuncture therapy which contains other extra and more in-depth details as follows : -


Well, regarding the 'He Gu' acupuncture point (as shown in the diagram below) I have mentioned in my prior article for the suggested cure for non-stop eyelid-twitching, its exact location is at the back of the palm of one's right hand, which is 1.5 cm (applicable to the average grown adults only) measured vertically from the point of intersection (that would appear visibly when the fingers are closed loosely together) between the thumb and the forefinger. (Kindly take note that this point is located at a much 'fleshy' instead of a much 'boney' area - perhaps you would need to briefly explore that part of your right hand at the same time to locate that point, and I hope you will understand that the hand structures of each person differ from one another).


When the acupuncture point is identified and marked accordingly, you can then re-open your hand , and then what you all can do is to sit down, and at the same time press that onto the surface of that acupuncture point (using just mild force) with any long blunt-pointed object such as toothpick, a normal writing pen (which is out of ink of course) etc against your chin (suggested for convenience purpose) for a continuous 2 hours (during any time in a day), and it's preferably to do that when you are about to go to sleep at night (so that you have more free time to do it). However , if you are eager to find out the very exact location of that particular acupuncture point to further verify the information given above, I would suggest you to seek consultancy from a licensed acupuncturist.


In this regard, based on the acupuncturist, the blunt-pointed objects such as normal writing pen (which is out-of-ink of course) etc instructed to me for such self-administred therapy is actually intended as a substitute for the acupuncture needle to deal effectively with the particular acupuncture point.


Unlike the other traditional method of acupressure which involves the use of fingers to press and massage the acupuncture points, the use of blunt-pointed object in such a case for the treatment of chronic eyelid-twtiching is actually meant as a 'leverage' to provide an adequately focused and hence a 'reflexology stimulus' that is strong enough to deal more precisely and effectively with that acupuncture point.


Whereas, if that acupuncture point is to be treated with fingers, the stimulus effect generated would be very much smaller due to the fact that such pressings and massagings would reasonably not last long enough to provide any reliefs for the chronic eyelid-twitching. Besides, given the larger suface area of the fingers as well as their rounded physical shape (compared to the blunt-pointed objects), a large part of the forces produced from such pressings and massagings would then be reasonably applied onto the related muscles rather than directly onto the intended nerves through the related acupuncture point to deal effectively with such sickness.


Please be reminded that a good sleep at night throughout the therapy period is essential for the healing to be effectively done. And a person shouldn't associate oneself again with the underlying causes such as over-straining of the eyes, excessive cafeine intake, allergy/overdosage of certain medication (with muscle spasms side effects) that causes this non-stop eyelid-twitching to the particular person in the first place to avoid a relapse of that sickness, especially after getting cured from it.


Please take note that one should continually apply that method in the case where it proves to be effective in dealing with the eyelid twitching problem (after trying it for about 3 days' time).


For your reference, I get my eyelid twitching stopped the next day after the acupuncture treatment. But when I stop the treatment for the next few days, the twitchings just come back again. Based on the acupuncturist, the explanation for the relapse is such that if one were to apply just one-off / short-term treatment, it would then only serve to disperse the dopamine-disturbing toxin / other 'contaminating agents' around one's eye nerves enabling the twitching to stop just temporarily (without totally purging such toxins / 'contaminating agents' out of the human body). So, it works just like doing a physiotherapy whereby one should complete the whole course of treatment (in this case, applying that self-administered technique persistently for weeks/ a few months) to get the eyelid-twitching sickness totally cured effectively once and for all in the end.


Next, the suggested duration of two-hour period/day (continuous non-stop healing process) for that self-administered treatment is just what I have recommended so far to other persons having the similar symptoms based on my very own healing experience from this eyelid-twitching sickness and the others who suffer from it (who eventually get it totally cured). All in all, it would acutally depend on one's healing progress for the eyelid twitching sickness upon applying that suggested self-administered acupuncture method.



Related References :


Diagram of The 'He Gu' Acupuncture Point :


http://curezone.com/upload/Art/Animatio ... t_File.gif



Medical References For The 'He Gu' Acupuncture Point :


http://www.acuxo.com/meridianPictures.a ... 0Intestine

Brief Summary For The Posts Above



Actually by making those posts in this website, I'm just trying to tell something about my healing experience from the (Risperdal) / Tardive Dyskinesia / medication-induced non-stop rapid eyelid-twitching / eye-blinking (countless times in a split second and it eventually causes me to lose my job) to the intended readers who are still suffering from such 'visually-incapacitating' sickness, especially as a result of the neurological movement disorders muscle spasms side effects of medications.


By the way, as to the suggested alternative instrument-aided self-administered acupuncture cure mentioned in one of the posts above (which is naturally free-of-charge) especially for such chronic medication-induced rapid eyelid-twitching / eye-blinking, it is exactly the technique that the relevant acupuncturist attending to my eyelid-twitching / eye-blinking sickness has instructed to me (because I feel annoyed with such needle-piercing therapy) and exercising that technique consistently actually get my sickness gradually and totally cured in the end.


Next, I have spent quite a couple of years (ever since I get totally cured a few years back) recommending this suggested self-administered acupuncture technique both in my real life and through emails (from those seeking helps from me) to the numerous other individuals suffering from the similar chronic rapid eyelid-twitching / eye-blinking sickness like what I have gone through before, and apart from the ones that I have witnessed in person, most of them (including the ones seeking helps from me through emails) in turn would tend to give almost immediate positive feedbacks about the effectiveness of this acupuncture techinque in dealing with their like-sickness. In this regard, a majority of them have actually got their like-sickness totally cured once and for all.


In connection, the post entitled 'Primary Vs Secondary Blepharospasm / Brain-damage-induced Vs Non-brain-damage-induced Eyelid-twitching / Eye-blinking' is actually something about my recent research about this Blepharospasm sickness and I hope that by contributing this article to the others, it will somehow help the intended readers to get at least some general ideas and basic understandings about neurology studies, mechanisms and operations.


Lastly, for a further follow-up about my healing experience from such Tardive Dyskinesia / medication-induced involuntary uncontrollable purposeless rapid non-stop eyelid-twitching / eye-blinking sickness, please refer to the weblink below :


http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt55280.html


and I hope that the information given will be useful to the intended readers. Thank you.

My Experiences of Getting Totally Cured Once and For All From Mental Disorders & The Related Neuromuscular Tardive Dyskinesia Side Effects of The Related Medications



Included below are the genuine articles about my experiences of getting totally cured once and for all from both of the mental disorders & the related neuromuscular Tardive Dyskinesia side effects of The related medications. Next I hope that the information given will be helpful and useful to the intended readers. Thank you.



http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1112472#i (Eyecare / Hemifacial Spasm : Medication-induced Non-stop Persistent Eyelid-twitching - How I Eventually Get It Totally Cured By Acupuncture & Other Medical Details)



http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1233341#i (A New Version For The Self-administered, Needle-free, Free-Of-Charge, Painless & Harmless Acupuncture Cure For Non-stop Persistent Rapid Eyelid-twitching / Eye-blinking)



http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1386471#i (The Story Behind The Suggested Self-administered, Free-of-charge, Needle-free, Painless, Harmless Acupuncture Method /Technique For Abnormally Rapid Eyelid-twitching / Eye-blinking Described Above)

Further Follow-up : Psychological Analysis of Mental Disorders

http://www.healthau.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=5617

Dopamine & Mental Disorders



Dopamine is actually one of the main neurotransmitters chemicals secreted and released by the countless of neurons (nerve cells) and brain cells of our miscellaneous bodily nervous systems and brains. Whilst the other main neurotransmitters chemicals would be Serotonin which plays the important role in "determining" how we feel based on whatever we see / perceive.



And well, the main function of the fluidly neurotransmitters chemical dopamine, which exist everywhere and anywhere in our human bodies and within the miscellaneous nervous systems, and "work" closely, mechanically and spontaneously with one another, is actually to control and co-ordinate our human bodily movements through their synaptic activities.



Basically, the synaptic activities is all about sending and receiving the various nerve and sensory impulses (originating from our sensory perceptions, feelings and thoughts) to the brains along the miscellaneous bodily nervous systems so that all the human bodily movements can be conducted freely at will by any normal human beings.



Nevertheless, the synaptic activities of the neurotransmitters chemical dopamine, in certain cases, can be interrupted and disrupted by the artificial curative mechanisms of certain medications, especially the mind-altering drugs such as antipsychotics / neuroleptics that serve to numb the cognitive senses of the brains by preventing the "neuro-traffics" of such nerve and sensory impulses from getting sent to / from the brains, resulting thus in miscellaneous neurological and neuromuscular disorders which are caused by interruptions to the synaptic activities of the neurotransmitters chemical, dopamine.



As such, please consider the excerpts below :

"All antipsychotic drugs tend to block D2 receptors in the dopamine pathways of the brain. This means that dopamine released in these pathways has less effect. Excess release of dopamine in the mesolimbic pathway has been linked to psychotic experiences. It is the blockade of dopamine receptors in this pathway that is thought to control psychotic experiences"

which are quoted from :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antipsychotics



In such a connection, the neurological and neuromuscular disorders caused by interruptions to the neurotransmitters chemical dopamine would be especially the movement disorders of Extrapyramidal Symptoms (EPS) , Tardive Dyskinesia, Dystonia, Neuroleptic Malignant Syndrome (NMS), Parkinsonism etc.


Hence, please consider the excerpts below :

"Dyskinesias are movement disorders and can include any of a number of repetitive, involuntary, and purposeless body or facial movements.
They can include:

Tongue movements, such as "tongue thrusts" or "fly-catching" movements
Lip smacking
Finger movements
Eye blinking
Movements of the arms or legs.

An individual may or may not be aware of these movements. These movements are usually quite recognizable, and many people fear that others will know they are taking an antipsychotic medication due to these unusual movements.

Tardive dyskinesia is a dyskinesia that occurs after long-term treatment with an antipsychotic medication. Sometimes, this condition may become permanent."

which are quoted from :

http://schizophrenia.emedtv.com/extrapy ... ptoms.html



Other Related Information :


Tardive Dyskinesia (TD) :

http://schizophrenia.emedtv.com/tardive ... nesia.html



Antipsychotics :

http://schizophrenia.emedtv.com/antipsy ... otics.html



Related Information About Synaptic Activities Disorders of Neurotransmitters Dopamine & The Related Cures For Them :

http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1631689#i

http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1428915#i

http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1428920#i

http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1233341#i

This is a little difficult for me to follow. Are you able to provide a summary?

+1, but there seems to be no relationship between autism and any of ntuc's lengthy meanderings about "mental disorders".

That's what I'm saying! What is the purpose of this thread other than as information? It might be good in the health and fitness forum, maybe.

I had to skim- it was too overwhelming for me to read all the way through. I have experience taking Risperdal, but I was also prescribed a Parkinson's drug with it to prevent TD. I was given a lot of printed information about the drug at the pharmacy, and it is available online. I do not understand why anyone would claim that providers and patients are ignorant of the side effects is this country because TD is highlighted and written about very frequently in regards to this type of medication. That caught my attention during the skimming LOL.

Well, given the very obviously undisputed fact that the modern day medical profession, rather than serving the purpose as a noble vocation, such as the scenario and phenomena in the distant past, it has actually deteriorated and derogatorily mutated nowadays into a commercial-like profit-seeking industry such as the other overtly profit-oriented business organisations. In short, many "doctors" nowadays are very much money and profit-oriented and care very much lesser about the well-beings and welfares of their patients or rather, customers.



One thing is that, the very genuine truths about what such medications for mental disorders / illnesses really are, especially in terms of their disadvantageously disastrous side effects, well, they would surely come to light in the end and the ugly truths about the downsides of such medications for mental disorders and illnesses would surely speak louder than anything especially when the patients taking such medications are totally immune to them in such a sense that such drugs and medications would no longer be useful or work out anything curatively desirable for them, or, such in a case whereby the various totally undisputed undesirable side effects of such medications for mental disorders such as addictions, neuromuscular, neurological and neuro-degenerative symptoms etc just suddenly manifest onto the related patients in the end.



Next, under such circumstances and scenarios, would the words from the related profit-oriented and deceptive "doctors" who totally don't care at all about the health cares and well-beings of their patients, but are concerned solely about the medical fees that such "doctors" will receive from their patients, or rather "customers", well, would the "words" of such unscrupulous "doctors" would still be "believable" to the related patients under such situation and circumstances ?



In addition, about the potentially misleading "words" from such deceptive "doctors" as well as any other doubtful sources / information about such drugs and medications for mental illnesses / medications, I would suggest both the prospective and existing users of antipsychotics / neuroleptics as well as other drugs and medications for various mental illnesses and disorders to ascertain the genuity and truthfulness about the virtual efficacies along with the respective side effects of such drugs and medications by comparing, cross-matching and cross-verifying their related given information with various truthful, reliable and unbiased medical sources such as http://www.drugs.com/ etc. Next, by doing so, one would reasonably be able to really, informedly and rationally identify and ascertain the particular drugs and medications that would work out the best solutions for their respective mental illnesses and disorders.



In addition to the suggestion above, seeking at least a second unbiased and objective opinion from the reliable and ethical medical professional, specialist, personnel etc would also be an added advantage too in genuinely confirming the suitability and appropriateness of the most useful drugs and medications for the treatments of respective different symptoms of different mental illnesses and disorders.



Whilst generally the bottom line and criteria are such that the particular drugs and medications chosen should possess far greater curative and therapeutical effects compared to their related side effects, and at best, such drugs and medications selected should have almost negligible or very minor side effects for the sake of the health cares and well-beings of their related users.



Lastly, coupled with the other non-medicational efforts of psychotherapies, interactive, interpersonal, emotional, communication, conselling supports from the others as well as self-determinations, self-initiatives, self-controls, self-wills and self-disciplines to think positively, rationally, realistically and practically as well as to lead a normal and healthy life on the part of mentally-ill patients themselves, such as what I have explained in my previous posts above, I believe that all these tremendous efforts of holistic healings would bring forth the greatest, genuine, sustainable and permanent curative and therapeutical effects to the related mentally-ill patients.



In the meantime, surely and definitely all these combined multifacet efforts of holistic healing would definitely beat the mere temporarily short-lasting artificial "curative" effects of such medications which would last only for mere few hours over the effective period of each dosage of such drugs and medications for the so-called purpose of "treatments" of mental disorders and illnesses.


One thing is that, the very genuine truths about what such medications really are would surely come to light in the end and the ugly truths about the downsides of such medications for mental disorders and illnesses would surely speak louder than anything especially when the patients taking such medications are totally immune to them in such a sense that such drugs and medications would no longer be useful or work out anything curatively desirable for them, or, such in a case whereby the various totally undisputed undesirable side effects of such medications for mental disorders such as addictions, neuromuscular, neurological and neuro-degenerative symptoms etc just suddenly manifest onto the related patients in the end.



Next, under such circumstances and scenarios, would the words from the related profit-oriented and deceptive "doctors" who totally don't care at all about the health cares and well-beings of their patients, but are concerned solely about the medical fees that such "doctors" will receive from their patients, or rather "customers", well, would the "words" of such unscrupulous "doctors" would still be "believable" to the related patients under such situation and circumstances ?



In addition, about the potentially misleading "words" from such deceptive "doctors" as well as any other doubtful sources / information about such drugs and medications for mental illnesses / medications, I would suggest both the prospective and existing users of antipsychotics / neuroleptics as well as other drugs and medications for various mental illnesses and disorders to ascertain the genuity and truthfulness about the virtual efficacies along with the respective side effects of such drugs and medications by comparing, cross-matching and cross-verifying their related given information with various truthful, reliable and unbiased medical sources such as http://www.drugs.com/ etc. Next, by doing so, one would reasonably be able to really, informedly and rationally identify and ascertain the particular drugs and medications that would work out the best solutions for their respective mental illnesses and disorders.



In addition to the suggestion above, seeking at least a second unbiased and objective opinion from the reliable and ethical medical professional, specialist, personnel etc would also be an added advantage too in genuinely confirming the suitability and appropriateness of the most useful drugs and medications for the treatments of respective different symptoms of different mental illnesses and disorders.



Whilst generally the bottom line and criteria are such that the particular drugs and medications chosen should possess far greater curative and therapeutical effects compared to their related side effects, and at best, such drugs and medications selected should have almost negligible or very minor side effects for the sake of the health cares and well-beings of their related users.



Lastly, coupled with the other non-medicational efforts of psychotherapies, interactive, interpersonal, emotional, communication, conselling supports from the others as well as self-determinations, self-initiatives, self-controls, self-wills and self-disciplines to think positively, rationally, realistically and practically as well as to lead a normal and healthy life on the part of mentally-ill patients themselves, I believe that all these tremendous efforts of holistic healings would bring forth the greatest, genuine, sustainable and permanent curative and therapeutical effects to the related mentally-ill patients.



In the meantime, surely and definitely all these combined multifacet efforts of holistic healing would definitely beat the mere temporarily short-lasting artificial "curative" effects of such medications which would last only for mere few hours over the effective period of each dosage of such drugs and medications for the so-called purpose of "treatments" of mental disorders and illnesses.

Miscellaneous Nervous Systems & Neurotransmitters



Well, apart from the well-known central nervous system, there are other nervous systems such as peripheral nervous system, somatic nervous system, autonomic nervous system, enteric nervous system, sympathetic nervous system, parasympathetic nervous systems etc in our human bodies that co-ordinate with one another through the ubiquitous neuron networks to maintain the all the normal functionings of our human bodies.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Nervous_System - Central nervous system (CNS)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peripheral_nervous_system - Peripheral nervous system (PNS)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomic_nervous_system - Autonomic nervous system (ANS)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somatic_nervous_system - Somatic nervous system (SNS)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enteric_nervous_system - Enteric nervous system (ENS)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sympathetic_nervous_system - Sympathetic nervous system (SNS)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasympat ... ous_system - parasympathetic nervous system (PSNS)



As for the different types of neurotransmitters, they would include dopamine, serotonin, Amino acids, glutamate, aspartate, serine, γ-aminobutyric acid (GABA), glycine, Monoamines, norepinephrine (noradrenaline; NE, NA), epinephrine (adrenaline), histamine, melatonin, acetylcholine (ACh), adenosine, anandamide, nitric oxide, etc which are secreted and released by neurons (nerve cells) and brain cells in the human bodies of these miscellaneous nervous systems as mentioned above along with the ubiquitous neuron networks of our human bodies to maintain the normal functioningis of our human bodies.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurotransmitter - Neurotransmitters



Next, if the synaptic activities of these neurons (nerve cells), brain cells, miscellaneous nervous systems and the ubiquitous neuron networks are interrupted and disrupted by the disastrous side effects of medications, the resulting medical consequences would in totally inconceivable and unimaginable such as what I have explained earlier on in my prior posts above.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_synapse - Chemical synapse / Synaptic activities

My ADHD prevents me from even trying to continue to decipher this thread. I get it- the docs oush whatever drugs the drug reps are selling these days. It has been going on for a ehile and that is why we should research and question any medications we are prescribed.

OP- if you want people to read your posts, why not shorten them and speak in plain English? This thread is too long-winded and pedantic for most people. Don't try to say that I'm not intelligent either- this is ridiculous! There might actually be good information in there but most people will never read it.

Someone saw me rapid eye blinking in a video before and told me to squeeze an acupuncture point. I don't think it helped. Also I have dyskinesia and it's annoying. I hang my mouth open, rapid eye blinking and also tremors. But I have to take my medication or I would have psychosis. There is a medication called cogentin however that helps, but I have not tried it.

"My ADHD prevents me from even trying to continue to decipher this thread. I get it- the docs oush whatever drugs the drug reps are selling these days. It has been going on for a ehile and that is why we should research and question any medications we are prescribed.

OP- if you want people to read your posts, why not shorten them and speak in plain English? This thread is too long-winded and pedantic for most people. Don't try to say that I'm not intelligent either- this is ridiculous! There might actually be good information in there but most people will never read it."



"Someone saw me rapid eye blinking in a video before and told me to squeeze an acupuncture point. I don't think it helped. Also I have dyskinesia and it's annoying. I hang my mouth open, rapid eye blinking and also tremors. But I have to take my medication or I would have psychosis. There is a medication called cogentin however that helps, but I have not tried it."



Well, surely the real truths and actual realities would speak louder than anything else, especially the obviously untenable remarks and statements.

What A Patient Wants From Seeking Treatments ?



Included below is a conversation between me and the other third party about mental disorders & illnesses, the advantageous, disadvantageous of the medications for such illnesses and disorders as well as how such medications actually work in reality and what purposes they are supposed to serve along with several flaws, defects and demerits of the modern mainstream medical science and system. Next I hope that the information provided will be useful and helpful to the intended readers.



Remarks from the other person :

"Speaking of neurotransmitters, much is made by the medical community about their alleged central role in depression and anxiety. However, this is largely unproven."




My replies :

Well, it's totally undeniable that human bodies depend on the neurological mechanisms of neuron, brains, neuron networks, miscellaneous nervous systems, the many types of neurotransmitters chemical for all our bodily functionings which include cognitive and movement abilities etc. And that's the reason why the people with Parkinsonism, Dementia, Alzheimers etc whose brain cells and neurons have been substantially destroyed (and hence no neurotransmitter chemicals can be released / secreted out of them) could not think, act and behave properly at all.



Remarks from the other person :

"There is, for instance, no lab test that can be done to show that depression or anxiety sufferers do indeed suffer from low serotonin levels. And even if depression and anxiety sufferers indeed DO tend to suffer from low serotonin levels, this does NOT establish a causal relationship between low serotonin and depression/anxiety. Low serotonin may simply be a RESULT of suffering from anxiety disorder. Also, more than likely, serotonin is probably low only in specific parts of the brain (but normal or even above normal in other parts of the brain). All of this certainly explains why globally increasing serotonin levels with drugs like SSRIs typically does not give entirely satisfactory results. "



My replies :

In fact, the drugs like Prozac etc could only temporarily and artificially restore the chemical balance of the brains of the mentally-ill people by re-uptaking and maintaing the proper balance of dopamine and serotonin neurotransmitter chemicals of their brains. However, since such an artificial medical mechanism is all by way of "forced suppression" so as to artificially blocking any nerve and sensory impulses from getting sent and receive to and from the brains, and hence, artificially blocking the "neuron network traffics" the mental conditions of the related mentally-ill people would then suffer a greater relapse of their mental illnesses when the therapeutical effects of such "forced suppressions" of each dosage of the related medications just lapse completely, while the previously medication-forced- suppressed nerve and sensory impulses would just turn violent and out-of-control (when they are no longer artificially suppressed by medications anymore) and manifest in far worse uncontrollable and involuntary behavioural and personality changes in the related mentally-ill people. Hence, that's why in such cases, the cures are worse than the diseases themselves .



So, that's why I have said that other non-medicational efforts such as what I have mentioned and explained earlier on in my previous posts are primarily important in genuinely and permanently restoring the sanities of the mentally-ill people bit by bit and step by step.


Remarks from the other person :

"As for antipsychotics and dopamine, once again, dopamine levels may be out of balance in people suffering from psychosis. But it is impossible to say whether this is the actual cause. And since, like antidepressants, antipsychotics generally do not produce entirely satisfactory results, I would suspect that there is probably MUCH more to psychosis than a simple chemical imbalance."



My replies :

As a matter of fact, everything has its shortcomings, flaws and defects. For example, in the case of people suffering from Tardive Dyskinesia, Dystonia and other movement disorders due to interruptions and disruptions to the synaptic activities of the neurotransmitter chemical dopamine, well, given that such fluidly and nearly totally transparent neurotransmitter chemical secreted by countless neurons and brain cells are hardly observable and distinguishable by any medical examinations such as MRI, CT-scannings etc whereby the people with Tardive Dyskinesia, Dystonia etc would obviously show their involuntary and uncontrollable movement disorders to the related doctors, nevertheless, no conclusive medical examinations, observations, diagnosis supported by any hard evidences can be given at the same time. So, that's why under such scenarios and phenomena, such movement disorders are labelled as "undiagnosed diseases".



Next, I suffer from Tardive Dyskinesia (rapid, involuntary, uncontrollable, purposeless eye blinking /eyelid twitching) before and my efforts of seeking the mainstream treatments from the western medical science just turn out to be totally futile such as the scenarios and phenomena explained above. And the fact that my Tardive Dyskinesia movement disorders are totally cured once-and-for-all about 6 years ago through a totally needle-free acupuncture / acupressure technique, which has fully cured countless of people having the same problem as mine so far, and well, the flaw and defect of this acupuncture / acupressure technique is such that, regardless of the ongoing ample empirical evidences about its obviously evident and prompt efficacies, the mainstream western medical science still would not recognise the validity of it simply for the mere reason that the healing mechanisms of such a totally needle-free acupuncture / acupressure technique are not be able to be observed, explored and studied by them, regardless of its obviously evident, prompt and 100 % healing efficacies as supported by more and more countless empirical evidences.



In such a connection, what I wish to say is that for anything that we do not know or have not yet known, it doesn't mean that they are phoney, fallacious or non-existent.



All in all, under any circumstances, I firmly and reasonably believe that for any patients / people seeking treatments for any of their illnesses, especially the desperate ones, I reckon that they would want the best and most effective treatments for themselves under any circumstances and situations. Anyhow, for anyone seeking treatments for their illnesses, their sole and only purpose is to get their illnesses and disorders totally cured, and preferably, once and for all.


Further Details :

http://www.anxietyforum.net/forum/viewt ... highlight=



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http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1428920#i (Follow Up : Tardive Dyskinesia (Chronic Rapid Eyelid-twitching /Eye-blinking Is One of The Common Symptoms)


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