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11 Oct 2008, 6:05 am

for me the main problem of AS is becoming incredibly angry over things that others would not bother other people

almost exclusively these angers occur in the presence of my girlfriend, anything she may do which is normal to her and her fellow NT's enrage me to the point of argument i will create some scenarios which i would get angry about

if she looks at another boy with what i percieve to be a flirtacious manner i will flip

if she talks about sex with others i feel like she has cheated on me or something, betrayed me

if she says something to me i will think about it constantly, often repeating one sentence in my head HUNDREDS of times getting angrier and angrier the more i think about it, then, when i confront her and hear her side of it it makes sense and i calm down and feel guilty

does anyone know any good methods of dealing with this? i know most of it is just misconception, but it certainly does not click straight away



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11 Oct 2008, 6:35 am

Does your girlfriend know about any of this? Does she know why you get angry?



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11 Oct 2008, 7:04 am

This is not directly related to AS. If it was, it would happen with other people too. The fact that it happens almost exclusively with your girlfriend, and includes irrational jealousy, indicates that you have a serious problem and need to get some professional assistance. This could well be the early stages of a domestic violence situation. The fact that you acknowledge the problem, and want to do something about it, is commendable. You will succeed if you stay committed. Good luck :) .



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11 Oct 2008, 9:12 am

For me, it has to do with my mother's obsession about hiding in her home, locking all the doors, shutting the curtains, etc. when she is home...I never know if she is there or not, when I pass by. She watched our kids for one night while we went to our cabin. Upon coming home, we had our hands full with baggage, and our home was locked up like a fortress, could not get in , knocked at the garage, just about kicked the door in to get her attention, it just pissed me off.. I felt like our kids were in a prison, all the windows were shut, all the doors locked.. you get the idea....She lives alone, but , to me, looking like there are people and LIFE going on in a home is less inviting to a burglar than having it look like no on is there( all closed up). She is going to watch the kids again, and I am going to subtly mention to her to please keep garage open during the day, she will see the driveway much better if our kids want to scooter or such, etc.....The hubby thought I needed to cool down when I vented about this last night, but it really angered me... I remember way back, before people needed to lock their doors , that she would lock the house and I could not get in as a schoolkid, would have to wait on the porch til she got back, and I think that is how I validate my thoughts on this.... Keep the screen door locked, but do not bolt the doors...whoa, I gotta relax now.. :oops:



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11 Oct 2008, 9:18 am

It sounds like you might be inadervently terrorizing your mother, what with kicking the door in and all. I think she might be afraid of you.



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11 Oct 2008, 9:26 am

slowmutant wrote:
It sounds like you might be inadervently terrorizing your mother, what with kicking the door in and all. I think she might be afraid of you.
:oops: NO, no, no. :oops: I said I felt like kicking the door in.I have so much respect for her, I do not raise my voice to her, I would never think of terrorizing her. I was just so frustrated that she has to be afraid where she should feel safe. We have a yelping , barking poodle who lets us know whoever pulls in the drive, our brother in law lives next door, we are close to the road, not in the middle of knowhere, etc. I love her, respect her, but this fear , I believe, of hers is over the top here...



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11 Oct 2008, 9:30 am

rushfanatic wrote:
slowmutant wrote:
It sounds like you might be inadervently terrorizing your mother, what with kicking the door in and all. I think she might be afraid of you.
NO, no, no. :oops: I said I felt like kicking the door in.I have so much respect for her, I do not raise my voice to her, I would never think of terrorizing her. I was just so frustrated that she has to be afraid where she should feel safe. We have a yelping , barking poodle who lets us know whoever pulls in the drive, our brother in law lives next door, we are close to the road, not in the middle of knowhere, etc. I love her, respect her, but this fear , I believe, of hers is over the top here...


Oh, I see. My mistake.

Are you sure she's actually afraid of anything? Maybe your mother is just cautious.



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11 Oct 2008, 9:35 am

slowmutant wrote:
rushfanatic wrote:
slowmutant wrote:
It sounds like you might be inadervently terrorizing your mother, what with kicking the door in and all. I think she might be afraid of you.
NO, no, no. :oops: I said I felt like kicking the door in.I have so much respect for her, I do not raise my voice to her, I would never think of terrorizing her. I was just so frustrated that she has to be afraid where she should feel safe. We have a yelping , barking poodle who lets us know whoever pulls in the drive, our brother in law lives next door, we are close to the road, not in the middle of knowhere, etc. I love her, respect her, but this fear , I believe, of hers is over the top here...


Oh, I see. My mistake.

Are you sure she's actually afraid of anything? Maybe your mother is just cautious.
My sister also noticed this about her home, and suggested she has depression, wanting to close herself away from others..That hurts to think that, but totally see how depression can do that. Fresh air, however, does wonders for the soul, opening windows to bring sunshine in, breezes, hearing the birds, etc... My mom and I both have AS traits.. She works all day at an attorney's office, and is wiped out by the end of the day. But I do not want her to miss the beauty and sanctuary of the outside world.. She is a lovely, pure soul, make no mistake,and want her to feel safe in our home.Yep, I love her.............p.s. Canada's finest, RUSH!



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11 Oct 2008, 9:42 am

It's always a special honour when my mom lets me help her. Even if I tell her what I think is wrong and it turns out that I'm correct, she acts like it's much too complicated for a little boy of 29 to understand. :wink:



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11 Oct 2008, 2:20 pm

I would like to first point out that, you are only 17. I dont know how long you have been in a relationship, but no matter if it has been since you were 14, you are still, "new". I know for me personally, dealing with jealousy took me until I was around 24 years or so. The question you have to learn to ask yourself, is "Do I trust her?". If you do, until you have reason to answer in any other way, you need to learn to "convince yourself" that you are over-reacting. Don't be afraid to ask her for help either. This is what relationships are about, learning to work together on a very personal level. If she loves you, this won't be a problem.
I do see that your repeating yourself, over and over, (I dont know if that is an NT thing as well, but I do that to, so it might be an AS trait), might be part of the problem. Why do you repeat it over and over to yourself? Are you "psyching yourself up" for a fight, trying to get courage to confront her, what it the reason behind it. If it is something you just do, with no reason, and that builds the anger, than I would suggest that the moment that you realize that you are doing it, is the moment you need to talk to her about whatever it is, rather than wait till you are angry about it.


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11 Oct 2008, 2:26 pm

You sound like the jealous type and not necessarily the angry-type. Some people have a lot of problems with jealousy, but it will destroy your relationships with other people if you can't find a way to trust others.

Young people always seem to have a degree of jealousy.



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11 Oct 2008, 2:30 pm

Fear wrote:
for me the main problem of AS is becoming incredibly angry over things that others would not bother other people

almost exclusively these angers occur in the presence of my girlfriend, anything she may do which is normal to her and her fellow NT's enrage me to the point of argument i will create some scenarios which i would get angry about

if she looks at another boy with what i percieve to be a flirtacious manner i will flip

if she talks about sex with others i feel like she has cheated on me or something, betrayed me

if she says something to me i will think about it constantly, often repeating one sentence in my head HUNDREDS of times getting angrier and angrier the more i think about it, then, when i confront her and hear her side of it it makes sense and i calm down and feel guilty

does anyone know any good methods of dealing with this? i know most of it is just misconception, but it certainly does not click straight away


this sounds more like an unrelated issue to me than aspergers... LOTS of people don't like it when their signifigant other glances at another or when they talk about sex with other people, me included!! getting angry in this case is not really that unreasonable, but you really ought to be telling her how you feel.
have you perhaps tried asking her to respect your feelings by not checking out other guys right in front of you and not telling you about the sex life she had before you came along? have you thought about talking to her the minute something she says is stuck in your head, rather than letting yourself become more and more angry over it?



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12 Oct 2008, 6:09 am

Nachtus01 wrote:
I would like to first point out that, you are only 17. I dont know how long you have been in a relationship, but no matter if it has been since you were 14, you are still, "new". I know for me personally, dealing with jealousy took me until I was around 24 years or so. The question you have to learn to ask yourself, is "Do I trust her?". If you do, until you have reason to answer in any other way, you need to learn to "convince yourself" that you are over-reacting. Don't be afraid to ask her for help either. This is what relationships are about, learning to work together on a very personal level. If she loves you, this won't be a problem.
I do see that your repeating yourself, over and over, (I dont know if that is an NT thing as well, but I do that to, so it might be an AS trait), might be part of the problem. Why do you repeat it over and over to yourself? Are you "psyching yourself up" for a fight, trying to get courage to confront her, what it the reason behind it. If it is something you just do, with no reason, and that builds the anger, than I would suggest that the moment that you realize that you are doing it, is the moment you need to talk to her about whatever it is, rather than wait till you are angry about it.


in any given situation in her presence or not if i think about something or see something im not entirely comfortable with i automatically go into thought overload and i repeat a scenario in my head, change it and remix it until it fits perfectly and i become very frightened, i think not having a social life and a poor family life since i was 6/7 means i havent matured mentally or emotionally

when i was pre-teen i would stay up until dawn by the door fearing my parents would abandon me... perhaps that is related to my paranoia



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12 Oct 2008, 6:25 am

I struggle with unreasonable anger as well. I feel like I'm Bruce Banner turning into the big green guy. :lol: :wink:



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12 Oct 2008, 1:43 pm

Fear wrote:
in any given situation in her presence or not if i think about something or see something im not entirely comfortable with i automatically go into thought overload and i repeat a scenario in my head, change it and remix it until it fits perfectly and i become very frightened, i think not having a social life and a poor family life since i was 6/7 means i havent matured mentally or emotionally.
when i was pre-teen i would stay up until dawn by the door fearing my parents would abandon me... perhaps that is related to my paranoia

Hmmm, was not aware of any paranoia states. Is paranoia an actual diagnosis? It wouldn't be surprising, AS is a lot of times coupled with other, "impairments". Having said that, it might be that, (if diagnosed), it might be a misdiagnosis. This is also common in people whom AS has been missed. You may just have a bad case of anxiety, which is something that affects almost all people on the ASD.
Not trying to make things more frustrating, and I most certainly am not a doctor, so you should consider talking to one. If your problem is anxiety, or paranoia, there may be medicines that can assist you in dealing with these things.
Part of what you are feeling, even for NT's, is normal though. Almost everyone experiences jealousy, and those who do, must learn to manage it. For you, it sounds to me like its a question of how much of what you are experiencing is just jealousy, and how much is not.


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12 Oct 2008, 2:22 pm

I mostly get angry over my own physical mistakes (that is to say, dropping things and so on), more than is proper, especially when I'm literally crying over spilt milk.
I try not to get upset at other people though. I try and factor in my own irritability to any emotional response, so I don't act unkindly.