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16 Nov 2005, 9:50 pm

November 17th, 2005

path to Caribou Coffee wrote:
I sit here at Caribou Coffee. It is in Rosemount, MN.
It is a 1/2 walk normally from BeeBee's house. you go down
143rd about 1 full block and up a side road to another road
that leads past the school buses in School District 196, Then
up Diamond Path Road to hwy? 42 (a main road).

Down that direction you go past some formal buildings
and then pass cheap white plastic fences with houses
behind them. You eventually past the 1st stop light(Shannon Rd)
and go past the Walgreens, and a small shopping setup
(really small with a liquor store/bar, and soon Dunn Bros. Coffee)
and you see Caribou's backside and slush(when snow is present)
down a sloping grass side(when no snow) and you are there.


Ice everywhere and the weather wrote:
If you walk the sidewalk you may slip, so I opted as much
as possible for the side of the road. Apparently someone
goes through it with a fine-tooth-snowplow. As I write this
It is now 4pm and snow is beginning to fall in Rosemont.


why such a weather braving wrote:
As a rule of thumb, I brave unknowns to develop a sense
of what is not priorly known. This is how I learn to adapt
be it in alleyways of San Francisco, and behind office
buildings of Sunnyvale during both winter and spring,
and all other seasons when I was homeless there.

It toughens me to brave the unknown. I use this field
testing to understand my envirements and myself.


what 20 degrees feels like wrote:
When I was walking down here at 3pm, I found that
my cheeks and face were numbed, and see the value
of my wool jacket.

In watching old black and white films often soldiers
wore them and during the snow. Since I am one
to keep things to a minium, my wool jacket has served
many weathers, and now with snowy/icy winds that
are currently blowing I can better appreciate it
as a multi-functional jacket.

I, at 20 degrees couldn't feel my ears, numbed they
were. and my jaw was like a foreign part of myself,
as was my nose.

At 4pm the chilling wind will be blowing in my face, yet
at 3pm it was blowing on my computer bag. I wanted
to find out if my computer was snow/icy cold tolerant.
And that won't be a concern about this going back when
my face freezes(chuckle! weird sensation) and the
bag is not being subjected to these chill factor
winds. At 6pm it is 15 degrees wind/chill factor
(to my face) said by someone in the coffee shop.


Snow dog racing to ones doom? or curse wrote:
When one starts a snow dog Klondike race across
the arctic one starts towards their doom or success.

When I arrived here at Caribou I realized why i didn't
work here. The lady manager has always been growly
towards me and unfriendly towards me in other times.
I have always tried to be corgial but that is wasted on
the non-speakers of ghosthunter'nese so I don't put
much grains of salt in my being polite to my benefit.
This brings back memories of Borders in my pre-Aspergers
days.

Then(pre-aspergers) I would make myself friendlier(Border's, S.F)
and thus bury myself in a place that wasn't ghosthunter
tolerant. This led to issues that got the main manager
to kickme out. The staff can be social to others
and growl and ignore me(towards the end) and there
was nothing I can do about it. The more I pushed
to convince them I was a good person, the closer to
the end(the store mgr kicking me out) I was going.
Thus, his closing phrase would be "i wouldn't even hire
you, and if you as much talk to my staff I will have
you asked to leave."


events that triggered this wrote:

I have no love for this place Rosemount since it is bounded
with rejections for me. The McD's found me unworthy
to even be considered, and the Grief Bros. temp job
was a doomed attempt and I knew it internally before
my 6th day let go by the temp agency.

The last haven, the one that is closest to the house is
Caribou Coffee here and a grumpy manager. I have
been asked to leave early one day at Rosemounts
Applebee(restraunt) though I did nothing and didn't
try to speak Applebee'nese(their foreign language to
me). The manager didn't charge me for the soda,
and this non-verbally suggested to me not to come back,
cursed be I and aware of it.

I tend to avoid her(caribou's mgr). So I come in by 3:45pm.
find that one table next to another is freed, but the other is
occupied. So I ask kindly, can I part-take of the other
unused table and move it to my isolated and plug outleted
corner.

They were obliging, but the manager scornfully tells me
DON'T EVER DO THAT AGAIN, and thus her true colors
came out(the one I knew existed like in Borders). Call
this a curse of being ghosthunter sense,
and makes my last refuge here non-functional. Things
got better when she left by 4pm, but that doesn't
change the fact Caribou here isn't immune to my
foreigner curse(they don't like Ghosthunter'nese
energy or presence, let alone foreign language to
them).

So I leave and go to the Cub Foods and buy a box of cigars,
thus giving myself time to think about what happened.
She was correct, and I should of just waited for that
particular table. But true colors had to come out,
and this was the catalyst.

It doesn't change the fact that they laugh and talk here
and I am a foreign creature. I explain to her that people
either hate me, or like me, and I appologize for the situation.
This will not endear her to accept me here, nor is it
going to solve anything.


My curse and Aspie worlds wrote:
In a aspie world I am a wordy,
foreign language stranger, and in her Caribou Coffee I am
equally foreign. So let it snow and numb my senses since
I can feel something even if it can kill me, I have often
played with fire to gain feeling beyond isolation, this is
what the curse of being me evokes me to do!


curse of being ghosthunter wrote:
I really don't know how to speak others languages. I may
enjoy some science fiction, and Doctor Who, ect...
but never spoke their language of star trek'nese or
Doctor Who'nese. Then I would force my presence
upon them out of spite and further be shunned.
1982-2000.

I then would find that when they are amongst themselves
they can mingle, when I show up, they move on. Then
came the pre-aspergers Border's and the same thing.
The reality is that I don't force myself upon anyone anymore.


How it is applied-Ghosthunter'nese today wrote:
Your folks at your planet speak aspie'nese so well, and I will not
I try to assimulate it nor force my ghosthunter'nese on you.
I learned from these sci-fi'rs and such that you hate me or like me.
I don't speak any language other then ghosthunter'nese and accept
the fact that I don't force my true self, and the only self I will
present to others onto others is this moody fool who posts
here to keep a journal upon my ending of this curse(my death
wake). if how I speak isn't their language, I will just write
this book and let my words be my heritage.

To those who can read me, god bless you, and to those
who speak aspien'ese that is ghosthunter'nese intolerant
to my writings, there is nothing I can do about that. I am who I
am, you are who you are, and even as I post my language
we still must live together, and I will not impose nor force
you to read my writings.

That is why I am making this a book writing log not a speaking
aspie'nese log, or a language I don't speak. Sorry for offending
others, I can't help being who I am nor intend to offend you.

So to those who are tolerant of my foreign language, thanks,
and to those who can careless, I expect that since I don't
speak your language. No more sci-fi cons shall be repeated.


Rosemount wrote:
Rosemount is 15,000 population. You enter it on Diamond Path
and 42. You then pass Shannon road and enter it's small newer
business district. It has a small strip mall with a Dunn Bros.
Coffee and such, Then a larger stripmall with Radio Shack, Cub
Foods, Caribou Coffee, and smaller shops within it's framework.
There is one smoke shop near cub foods, but they charge a
arm and a leg.

After that you have restraunts, like A&W, Kentucky Fried Chicken,
McD's, Arby's, ect.. and this will span 2 stop lights and by then
you pass the Rosemount Alert tower for storms and flash flood
alerts.

Further into the 2 stoplights you see a newlyy built stripmall and
Starbucks(newly built). Down that main road is old town Rosemount.
It spans 5 city blocks and is mostly smaller shops, and a Celtic bar.

They have this Irish shop, the only one I have seen in either Apple
Valley, or Rosemount. It is small and not much to say about it
except it is more arts and crafts, which would surmise most
of old town Rosemount.


Interesting encounter and hobbies revealed wrote:
Whilst I was here i met a lady who has a husband and
grandkids. She and I were discussing how her family
had odd hobbies and how she is looked upon as kookie.
She likes to talk odd hobbies and others and her kids
don't get it. This is her foreign language.
She is about 60? or 55? She is computer illiterate
but sharp on seeing things from a point of view.


gifts and interpretations wrote:
I mentioned Roman Coins and their writings that explain
the originator of the coins, be they to be governer(augustus)
generals and how the ceasar processess are conveyed
in "Titus" ©2000, Gladiator ©2000, Ben Hur ©58'.

She did surprise me, and help me understand that I should
be a teacher. "you should be a teacher" she says.

She explained how she wasn't computer literate, like
most seniors and I explained that was ok! Stephen King
can write wonderful visuals but not have eye-ear-video
co-ordination to save his life, hence forth his version
of the shininig(TV movie one) sucked and the eye-ear-video
version(Movie ©80's) was well done.

Our gifts have languages of their own and that is god/goddesses
greatest gifts to us. If you are christian it is gods gift to
us. One of these days Pryaxis might host the vids I have
done and will do to demostrate my eye-ear-video skill
to songs and H_P(for now) videos that give my favorite
music a face.


A Poem wrote:
Whispering wind flows through our ears, tells
us secrets we hold dear. Whispering it to others
who grasp the few, bring the fire of scorning
that burns the witch that is true.

Witches of the field, gathering roses, and plants
galore, speaking their language known by a few,
to be torn by the others and masses who can't
hear them at all.

Glistening wind reveals it's truth in our hearts.
Numbing of the senses bring out the truth of
who we are. I either feel, to my surprise, or it's cold
and heard not the message sublime.

Icy krinkles upon my feet. as air, water and fire erupts
the results that krinkle under my feet. Bless be
the air's wake and fires creation that causes natures
reaction called snow coupled by airs cold to create
what we call snowy abyss and fields.

Krinkle, krinkle and do you hear it's word in every
crunch from your hearts voice?


Sincerely,
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16 Nov 2005, 10:20 pm

It sounds like you're cold; the snow and the temperature drop could really numb one's body as you said. I remember once I ran out in the snow in my bare feet and pajamas because of a dare (that was when I was little), and I remember my feet being burning cold, and they were a bit numb when I went back in the house. It's funny to think of it nowadays, and I laugh at it at times. I also learned not to go out bare foot in the snow, or else one's feet would grow numb! :lol:


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It sounds like you're cold; the snow and the temperature drop could really numb one's body as you said. I remember once I ran out in the snow in my bare feet and pajamas because of a dare (that was when I was little), and I remember my feet being burning cold, and they were a bit numb when I went back in the house. It's funny to think of it nowadays, and I laugh at it at times. I also learned not to go out bare foot in the snow, or else one's feet would grow numb!


To add to that...when I got home at 8:30 and trying to
avoid the blackice(slippery buggers), my feet(in boots)
were cold. So barefoot or not, it is a penetrating cold.

Thanks for posting here.
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16 Nov 2005, 10:56 pm

Ghosthunter wrote:
Your folks at your planet speak aspie'nese so well, and I will not
I try to assimulate it nor force my ghosthunter'nese on you.
I learned from these sci-fi'rs and such that you hate me or like me.
I don't speak any language other then ghosthunter'nese and accept
the fact that I don't force my true self, and the only self I will
present to others onto others is this moody fool who posts
here to keep a journal upon my ending of this curse(my death
wake). if how I speak isn't their language, I will just write
this book and let my words be my heritage.


Hey hey, don't think that... I know that I have learned from my experiences in life that I should usually keep my mouth shut unless I have something damn important to say, so by force of habit I do that a lot of the time even when that is probably not what the person on the other end of the conversation needs from me. I have a feeling a lot of the aspies on this board are like that, but that does not mean we aren't listening and enjoying your writing. From reading your writing I do get the feeling of someone who is gifted yet misunderstood and emotionally drained like me (though for a much longer time, I recognize that I am fortunate to have learned about AS at my age even though some people learned about it younger than me) so I get a feeling of connection.

I admit I don't always read all the way through your posts because I'm on my way out the door and was just planning on a quick 5 minute readthrough of some posts here, and sometimes I don't understand them because you seem to just make up grammar as you go along :P

But don't be mad or feel left out cos we don't always respond, sometimes we just feel stupid to respond when someone writes so thoroughly about something because all we'd really have to say about it is "oh okay..."

If you feel you are not interacting with members as much as you'd like to, try posting on the Picture Association game, or the Next Person game, thats what they are there for :D


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16 Nov 2005, 11:40 pm

Ghosthunter wrote:
To add to that...when I got home at 8:30 and trying to avoid the blackice(slippery buggers), my feet(in boots)
were cold. So barefoot or not, it is a penetrating cold.

Thanks for posting here.
Ghosthunter


If your feet are cold and wet, you will feel the cold much more than if your feet are warm and dry. --when you can afford it, you should see about getting a pair of Merrell Mocs, or Merrell hikers. They're insulated and waterproof.


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Ghosthunter wrote:
Your folks at your planet speak aspie'nese so well, and I will not
I try to assimulate it nor force my ghosthunter'nese on you.
I learned from these sci-fi'rs and such that you hate me or like me.
I don't speak any language other then ghosthunter'nese and accept
the fact that I don't force my true self, and the only self I will
present to others onto others is this moody fool who posts
here to keep a journal upon my ending of this curse(my death
wake). if how I speak isn't their language, I will just write
this book and let my words be my heritage.
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Hey hey, don't think that... I know that I have learned from my experiences in life that I should usually keep my mouth shut unless I have something dam* important to say, so by force of habit I do that a lot of the time even when that is probably not what the person on the other end of the conversation needs from me.


Can you give a example? I am intrigued in how your
mind is thinking on this. Mind you, I am usually outspoken
and that is in my nature, but it is intriguing to here some
examples and how they were misinterpreted.

snowcone wrote:
I have a feeling a lot of the aspies on this board are like that, but that does not mean we aren't listening and enjoying your writing. From reading your writing I do get the feeling of someone who is gifted yet misunderstood and emotionally drained like me (though for a much longer time, I recognize that I am fortunate to have learned about AS at my age even though some people learned about it younger than me) so I get a feeling of connection.


Thanks for that compliment.

snowcone wrote:
I admit I don't always read all the way through your posts because I'm on my way out the door and was just planning on a quick 5 minute readthrough of some posts here, and sometimes I don't understand them because you seem to just make up grammar as you go along


Apparently my art of writing is using words creatively,
and if you look at autism books, they often makeup words
just like the worlds of their own. I say thanks for acknowledging
the creative writing style, and admitting it is confusing since
is it individually tailored. Bravery is good to express! It is then
good to express this honesty! Thanks!

snowcone wrote:
But don't be mad or feel left out cos we don't always respond, sometimes we just feel stupid to respond when someone writes so thoroughly about something because all we'd really have to say about it is "oh okay..."


That is truth!

snowcone wrote:
If you feel you are not interacting with members as much as you'd like to, try posting on the Picture Association game, or the Next Person game, thats what they are there for


Too bad I am not as internet savvy as you folks who are.
I am still trying to grasp the basic email tactic with little success.

Thanks again for posting in my forums Snowcone,
YOur great!

Sincerely,
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Ghosthunter wrote:
To add to that...when I got home at 8:30 and trying to avoid the blackice(slippery buggers), my feet(in boots)
were cold. So barefoot or not, it is a penetrating cold.

Thanks for posting here.
Ghosthunter

If your feet are cold and wet, you will feel the cold much more than if your feet are warm and dry. --when you can afford it, you should see about getting a pair of Merrell Mocs, or Merrell hikers. They're insulated and waterproof.


That is one of the reasons I did the pre-heavy snow test
today. I have a can of waterproofer that I havent' used
and no test model to determine how valuable it can be?

I plan to use it soon, and see if it can solve some problems of
cold feet? Am I on the right track????

Sincerely,
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17 Nov 2005, 1:49 am

Ghosthunter wrote:

That is one of the reasons I did the pre-heavy snow test
today. I have a can of waterproofer that I havent' used
and no test model to determine how valuable it can be?

I plan to use it soon, and see if it can solve some problems of
cold feet? Am I on the right track????

Sincerely,
Ghosthunter


Waterproofing will only keep the leather of your boots/shoes dry. I won't keep your feet from getting cold. For that I HIGHLY recommend a pair of waterproof, and insulated boots/shoes.--Especially if your planning on doing any lengthy walks in Minnesota during the winter. If the weather is cold enough, and you're out for any length of time you run the risk of getting frostbite/frozen extremities.


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17 Nov 2005, 2:11 am

aspiegirl2 wrote:
It sounds like you're cold; the snow and the temperature drop could really numb one's body as you said. I remember once I ran out in the snow in my bare feet and pajamas because of a dare (that was when I was little), and I remember my feet being burning cold, and they were a bit numb when I went back in the house. It's funny to think of it nowadays, and I laugh at it at times. I also learned not to go out bare foot in the snow, or else one's feet would grow numb! :lol:

I remember once a guy from the Boy Scout Venturing Crew I was in at the time ran out of the hut barefoot to fix a power cord real fast and we locked him out for about a minute or two. :twisted: It wasn't too far below freezing so it's not like he was at risk for frostbite or anything. :lol:



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I remember once a guy from the Boy Scout Venturing Crew I was in at the time ran out of the hut barefoot to fix a power cord real fast and we locked him out for about a minute or two. :twisted: It wasn't too far below freezing so it's not like he was at risk for frostbite or anything. :lol:


In Minnesota, winter temps regularly get down to -20F. When I lived in ND, that was pretty much normal as well. Wind chill factors of -40F were common, and there were occaisional dips down to -60F.


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GH,

First, why are you not wearing that nice heavy jacket I gave you in September. Trust me, it will help quite a bit as the temps drop (I think it is 7 this morning in Rochester). I think it is big enough to wear over your wool jacket if the feel is a problem.

Now I have to ask something, when you go to Caribou Coffee, do you purchase anything while you are there? If you do not purchase anything, then I can see why the manager would get mad at you. If you do purchase something however, I cannot see her point because they are making money. You may want to see if the Dakota County Library offers WIFI access and use that instead. I know the library in Rochester does.


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Hey hey, don't think that... I know that I have learned from my experiences in life that I should usually keep my mouth shut unless I have something dam* important to say, so by force of habit I do that a lot of the time even when that is probably not what the person on the other end of the conversation needs from me.


Can you give a example? I am intrigued in how your
mind is thinking on this. Mind you, I am usually outspoken
and that is in my nature, but it is intriguing to here some
examples and how they were misinterpreted.


Um, well, the only thing that is coming to mind is how one time I was talking to someone about the William Freund incident and they said they hoped it didn't bring too much negative publicity... I said something like I didn't think so because there was so much going on in the news at the time with the hurricanes and politics that a beverly hills murder probably wouldn't have gotten too much airtime... I think this person was upset by my statement, when a simple "I'm sure it will be okay" or "I hope it doesn't get too bad" would have been better... but sometimes I am so focused on proving my existence has worth and that I can be useful to people that I'm not as considerate about such things as I would like to be.


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GH,

First, why are you not wearing that nice heavy jacket I gave you in September. Trust me, it will help quite a bit as the temps drop (I think it is 7 this morning in Rochester). I think it is big enough to wear over your wool jacket if the feel is a problem.


Right now I am field testing my thermals(later when it gets 0-10 degrees,
and how this can enhance the green wool jackets reliablitity. The real
jacket is for emergency backup. I say thanks for the jacket, and
when I have have bravely tested layering it will see use.

bouchard wrote:
Now I have to ask something, when you go to Caribou Coffee, do you purchase anything while you are there? If you do not purchase anything, then I can see why the manager would get mad at you. If you do purchase something however, I cannot see her point because they are making money.


I buy a cookie and coffee each time, I know my curse's affect
when I see it, Ihad plenty of experiences especially when you
know it is futile to convince the other to change their reaction
towards me.

bouchard wrote:
You may want to see if the Dakota County Library offers WIFI access and use that instead. I know the library in Rochester does.


I have always found library to governnmental and sterile.
thus avoid them. I may get a weak signal at Panera bread
that give more internet hours on a iffy functioning basis, but
at least when the internet is working, I am able to be in a non-sterile
building.

Sterile to me is too many rules and regulations and WHITE WALLS.
Like a hospital or government structure with no personality.

Thanks for posting here, and Cool! I am glad you are
going to Movie #4 on Harry Potter. I and Pyraxis have
just done our fan_made video release today. It is in
the general forum.

Sincerely,
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18 Nov 2005, 12:37 am

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Um, well, the only thing that is coming to mind is how one time I was talking to someone about the William Freund incident and they said they hoped it didn't bring too much negative publicity... I said something like I didn't think so because there was so much going on in the news at the time with the hurricanes and politics that a beverly hills murder probably wouldn't have gotten too much airtime...


And if I were in your shoes, I would have said something similar
to that effect. Most stories of this nature userally are passed over
unless their are no other events going on. I am not being insensitive
when if I said that to someone, but just looking at it as to where it
ranks in the current events. So I can definely see your point of view
on this.

snowcone wrote:
I think this person was upset by my statement, when a simple "I'm sure it will be okay" or "I hope it doesn't get too bad" would have been better... but sometimes I am so focused on proving my existence has worth and that I can be useful to people that I'm not as considerate about such things as I would like to be.


Maybe this example of viewing things and their placement
might exhibit a good example of Aspergers perspective.

"Not the forest, but the trees" was once quoted to me.
or not seeing the bigger picture but the minute parts.

Snowcone, keep being expressive, it is a good gift

Sincerely,
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18 Nov 2005, 2:15 pm

AbominableSnoCone wrote:

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Hey hey, don't think that... I know that I have learned from my experiences in life that I should usually keep my mouth shut unless I have something dam* important to say, so by force of habit I do that a lot of the time even when that is probably not what the person on the other end of the conversation needs from me. I have a feeling a lot of the aspies on this board are like that, but that does not mean we aren't listening and enjoying your writing. From reading your writing I do get the feeling of someone who is gifted yet misunderstood and emotionally drained like me (though for a much longer time, I recognize that I am fortunate to have learned about AS at my age even though some people learned about it younger than me) so I get a feeling of connection.


very well said. that is often why I don’t respond to posts.
Also a lot of the time I come away from GH posts a little to emotionally drained to say anything because of the suppressed emotions they identify with. I am reeding I just never think I can add any thing to the conservation that you have not covered more eloquently then I ever could.


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18 Nov 2005, 2:34 pm

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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 5:15 am    Post subject:
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AbominableSnoCone wrote:
Quote:
Hey hey, don't think that... I know that I have learned from my experiences in life that I should usually keep my mouth shut unless I have something dam* important to say, so by force of habit I do that a lot of the time even when that is probably not what the person on the other end of the conversation needs from me. I have a feeling a lot of the aspies on this board are like that, but that does not mean we aren't listening and enjoying your writing. From reading your writing I do get the feeling of someone who is gifted yet misunderstood and emotionally drained like me (though for a much longer time, I recognize that I am fortunate to have learned about AS at my age even though some people learned about it younger than me) so I get a feeling of connection.
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very well said. that is often why I don’t respond to posts.
Also a lot of the time I come away from GH posts a little to emotionally drained to say anything because of the suppressed emotions they identify with. I am reeding I just never think I can add any thing to the conservation that you have not covered more eloquently then I ever could.


And I agree, I can be a bit overwhelming, be it in coffee
shops, and public places or public forums like this(wrongplanet
as a example). I say thanks for the compliment for my
writing gift and cool! Thanks for posting here.

Sincerely,
Ghosthunter