Horrifying portrayal of Aspie man in local paper

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03 Mar 2011, 8:29 pm

Autistic man with 37 restraining orders sues H.B.

http://www.ocregister.com/news/rogers-2 ... wsuit.html

Here's a nice sample from the "reader comments" section:

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Autism is a profoundly sad condition for all involved. Some quick research on the subject of Asperger's Syndrome, however, reveals that this guy is potentially very dangerous, above and beyond the menacing behavior he has already shown. Unlike many autistic people, this guy is generally unsupervised and free to do what he pleases when he pleases, and the legal system, bless its dysfunctional heart, is pretty much powerless to do something unless they physically restrain him in a facility that subjects him to 24 hour a day supervision. Good luck with that. The state is broke as it is.



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03 Mar 2011, 8:31 pm

wait... what? :?


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03 Mar 2011, 8:37 pm

Oodain wrote:
wait... what? :?


This is like the only article about an Aspie I've ever seen in this paper, and this is what it is.

I am physically shaking, I'm so pissed. :evil:



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03 Mar 2011, 8:37 pm

Grisha wrote:
Autistic man with 37 restraining orders sues H.B.

http://www.ocregister.com/news/rogers-2 ... wsuit.html

Here's a nice sample from the "reader comments" section:

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Autism is a profoundly sad condition for all involved. Some quick research on the subject of Asperger's Syndrome, however, reveals that this guy is potentially very dangerous, above and beyond the menacing behavior he has already shown. Unlike many autistic people, this guy is generally unsupervised and free to do what he pleases when he pleases, and the legal system, bless its dysfunctional heart, is pretty much powerless to do something unless they physically restrain him in a facility that subjects him to 24 hour a day supervision. Good luck with that. The state is broke as it is.


People need to do a bit more research before they just jump to conclusions that all people with AS are dangerous.

I will admit the guy did some questionable stuff, but that may not have been because of AS.

All we need is worse image of people with AS.


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03 Mar 2011, 8:43 pm

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Oodain wrote:
wait... what? :?


This is like the only article about an Aspie I've ever seen in this paper, and this is what it is.

I am physically shaking, I'm so pissed. :evil:


yeah i share the feeling, there is not much that can be said, just wow!

its so sad :cry:


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03 Mar 2011, 8:47 pm

That's terrible.

"You people shouldn't be running around loose..."

I've had a lot of people question why I'm allowed on my own and I'm harmless.


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03 Mar 2011, 8:53 pm

I don't condone what the guy's doing either, but the article clearly blames his behavior on his Asperger's and "lack of supervision".

I wonder what my neighbors would do if they knew they had an Aspie living in their midst after reading an article like this?



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03 Mar 2011, 9:09 pm

That's absolutely insane. He really needs help.

chris09 wrote:
People need to do a bit more research before they just jump to conclusions that all people with AS are dangerous.

I will admit the guy did some questionable stuff, but that may not have been because of AS.

All we need is worse image of people with AS.


I agree with this. I think he has something else other than autism.



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03 Mar 2011, 9:12 pm

I agree with having something else going on besides autism. It doesn't have to be an actual "mental disorder" though -- people like this can be this way because they're just not particularly nice or ethical people, without having something actually diagnosable about them.


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03 Mar 2011, 9:14 pm

Grisha wrote:
I am physically shaking, I'm so pissed. :evil:


+1 !

First of all, this guy may have some issues - but a paintball gun is a deadly weapon? It sounds to me like the cops are trying to make his life as difficult as possible, and stretching a lot of points to do it. Putting a small scratch in an 18 year old car is "felony malicious mischief"? If you read between the lines, his story makes more sense than the rest of it.

Second, even if he was a lot worse then he actually is described, he is one individual. If a blond woman commits murder, do people write articles or leave comments suggesting all blond women ought to be locked up?


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03 Mar 2011, 9:19 pm

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I agree with having something else going on besides autism. It doesn't have to be an actual "mental disorder" though -- people like this can be this way because they're just not particularly nice or ethical people, without having something actually diagnosable about them.


I'm not defending the guy at all.

I am just furious that they made "Autism" such a prominent part of the article and the explivit explanation for his behavior.

What happens if one of my neighbors catches me posting on WP?

Maybe they should put up a website posting where "unsupervised Aspies" live so the public can protect themselves?



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03 Mar 2011, 9:21 pm

Talk about smashing your head through a wall..

check this incongruent site out

http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Asperger's_syndrome :evil:



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03 Mar 2011, 9:23 pm

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Second, even if he was a lot worse then he actually is described, he is one individual. If a blond woman commits murder, do people write articles or leave comments suggesting all blond women ought to be locked up?


Exactly.

OTOH, if you're autistic, intellectually disabled, or mentally ill, and you do something wrong, then people will insist that everyone like you ought to be locked up. It's part of the whole mythology that supports us being locked away in the first place -- we're dangerous to have in the community, after all.

<sarcasm>Intellectually disabled men will rape their little sisters, don't you know? Mentally ill people (especially psychotic people) are all dangerously violent and could go off at any time and kill someone, too. People with Asperger's have no empathy and won't hesitate to get violent if you offend them, because they don't care who they hurt. And autistic people will just randomly be violent for no reason at all! And they can hurt little children, so you don't ever want to let them around little kids.</sarcasm>

Those are the excuses people use to keep us separated from the rest of society. Some of them are very old, and go back to the eugenics movement or further. Some of them are newer. But they're all equally destructive. I was denied housing once because the landlady in question had a 3-year-old son and when she heard I was autistic she told the person who was calling on my behalf that I might hurt her son. She knew nothing of me, only that I was autistic, and she'd probably seen Rain Man or something. >_<


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03 Mar 2011, 9:28 pm

anbuend wrote:
I was denied housing once because the landlady in question had a 3-year-old son and when she heard I was autistic she told the person who was calling on my behalf that I might hurt her son. She knew nothing of me, only that I was autistic, and she'd probably seen Rain Man or something. >_<


Isn't that illegal or something?



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03 Mar 2011, 9:29 pm

The guy could be a bad apple and that's why he is acting this way. Why bring autism into it?



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03 Mar 2011, 9:33 pm

Kail wrote:
Talk about smashing your head through a wall..

check this incongruent site out

http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Asperger's_syndrome :evil:


While I don't find it particularly funny, it is a satirical site. Which isn't the same thing as making serious claims about us. In fact, you could view that page as a mockery of those serious claims. From that point of view, I suppose it is a bit funny, after all.


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