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Laz
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03 Mar 2006, 6:45 pm

That Is PATHOLOGICAL DEMAND AVOIDANCE SYNDROME

Ive come across someone who is both on the autistic spectrum and has PDA but from what ive read up PDA is a atypical autistic disoder (similair to autisum but not quite fitting into the traditional diagonsis criteria)

Is anyone on this forum diagnosed PDA or have any experiance socialising or working with individuals who have PDA. I want to know what sort of life chances they have and am also after more information.



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03 Mar 2006, 7:00 pm

I am intersted abt this thread .
I don't know a lot about PDA , can you give me futhres infos?



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03 Mar 2006, 7:11 pm

You like Zelda?

I love you already.



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03 Mar 2006, 7:43 pm

From what I've read about it there seems to be a debate as to whether PDA is actually an ASD or not as it appears to contrast from autism and AS. I have found some other info on it, in case you haven't already spotted them:

http://www.psychnet-uk.com/dsm_iv/pda.htm

http://www.nas.org.uk/nas/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=306&a=3352

http://www.cafamily.org.uk/Direct/p13.html

Are these helpful?



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03 Mar 2006, 7:51 pm

Holy s**t!!

That describes me to a tee even more so than AS or autism



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03 Mar 2006, 7:52 pm

jman wrote:
Holy s**t!!

That describes me to a tee even more so than AS or autism


Is this actually over in America yet it seems a very recent development being theres really only one professor in the field.



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03 Mar 2006, 7:58 pm

Fiz wrote:
From what I've read about it there seems to be a debate as to whether PDA is actually an ASD or not as it appears to contrast from autism and AS. I have found some other info on it, in case you haven't already spotted them:

http://www.psychnet-uk.com/dsm_iv/pda.htm

http://www.nas.org.uk/nas/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=306&a=3352

http://www.cafamily.org.uk/Direct/p13.html

Are these helpful?


The NAS one is quite interesting. Wading in with their own opinion because they have a £70,000,000 turnover again I see. Im not too happy with them as an organisation anyway.

Well this lass I work with is cleary not your average autistic. If anything I would think she was asperger but then on the other hand she has what I can only describe as an evil/sadist streak about her the kind of agression i have just never seen in aspergers but what i have seen in bad treated autistics. For someone who barely comes up to my waist she is incredibly viscious.

Saying that I know from my previous placement with the dual diagnosis team that there is more to this child in the family then meats the eye but i wanted to know as much as PDA as possible



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03 Mar 2006, 8:07 pm

PDA contact group wrote:
PDA children are LESS likely:

* to have caused anxiety to parents before 18 months of age
* to show stereotypical motor mannerisms
* to show (or have shown) echolalia or pronoun reversal
* to show speech anomalies in terms of pragmatics
* to show (or have shown) tiptoe walking
* to show compulsive adherence to routines

PDA children are MORE likely:

* to resist demands obsessively (100%)
* to be socially manipulative (100% by age five)
* to show normal eye contact
* to show excessive lability of mood and impulsivity
* to show social mimicry (includes gestures and personal style)
* to show role play (more extended and complete than mimicry)
* to show other types of symbolic play
* to be female (50%)


hmmm..

I did and still do have echolalia (actually more like palilalia since I talk to myself)
i had a little bit of stereotypical motor mannerisms and still do
i still tiptoe walk from time to time

however i do have all the traits in the second part of the page except for the fact that Im male...



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03 Mar 2006, 8:22 pm

hale_bopp wrote:
You like Zelda?

I love you already.



Best games series ever :P

interested about the PDA ..... i have 1 PDA trait that i had normal eye contact at age of 5 -6 ( but i didn't like it at all ) and now i can have normal eye contact now.( still hate it and pain me somehow ).



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04 Mar 2006, 1:47 am

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Like all children with a pervasive developmental disorder, people with PDA will have certain communication problems, although these may be masked by their superficially high social skills of distraction and avoidance, thus the underlying deficits can be quite easily overlooked. Semantic pragmatic language (the social use of language, including body language) may also be affected, but not to the degree found in autism and Asperger syndrome. Bizarre content of language is more common than in autism, sometimes due to interest in fantasy.


That's about the only part I identify with.


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04 Mar 2006, 2:07 am

I've never heard of PDA before; but reading about it now, it does not to me appear to be a form of autism. In fact many of its features, symptoms if you will, seem to directly contradict autism's diagnostic criteria.

And now the real reason for my posting :), I love your avatar, LePetitPrince.



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07 Mar 2006, 8:45 am

Laz wrote:
That Is PATHOLOGICAL DEMAND AVOIDANCE SYNDROME

I'm getting SO tired of all the three-letter acronyms. The only PDAs I knew about were "Personal Digital Assistant", which I have, and "Public Display of Affection", which I tend to avoid. Next thing you know we're all going to be talking about Barney: "Purple Dinosaur Alert!"



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07 Mar 2006, 11:45 am

Very well Jetson, but I Personally Don't Agree... :wink:

By the way - is it just me that feels uncomfortable with the words "personal" and "digital" being used in the same phrase??


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07 Mar 2006, 12:40 pm

Jetson wrote:
Laz wrote:
That Is PATHOLOGICAL DEMAND AVOIDANCE SYNDROME

The only PDAs I knew about were "Personal Digital Assistant",

X2.....when I clicked on the thread for the first time,I immediately thought it was going to be discussing PDAs/handheld computers,being a fan/user of them to,I was disapointed to find it wasn't a dedication to a great piece of hardware.
Re.Pathological Demand Avoidance Syndrome...
The term sounds familiar to me,but I don't know why.



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By the way - is it just me that feels uncomfortable with the words "personal" and "digital" being used in the same phrase??

I don't understand...what is it that sounds dodgy about them together?


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08 Mar 2006, 3:54 am

KingdomOfRats wrote:
I don't understand...what is it that sounds dodgy about them together?


Uh...yup. Obviously it is just me and my obscure and obscene sense of humour.


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