Social naivety vs Social/cultural tolerance

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28 Nov 2008, 7:18 am

Where does social naivety end and social/cultural tolerance begin?

Is hanging out with the "wrong"/"different" crowd a naive or a culturally enriching experience?

What if the supposedly "wrong" crowd was actually quite harmless and were only deemed "wrong" due to outsiders distorted perceptions of members within a group?

What if this crowd was just different?



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28 Nov 2008, 8:55 am

You're speaking of the people who are tolerating AS and speaking with Aspies, aren't you ?
Yeah, these people are seen differently by people that thinks that Aspies are "odd".
They might even get rejected as well, if they are in a High School environment.
I have some people like those in my class, they are speaking to me and they are very kind. And they do not get rejected because they have a strong personality and other people thinks that they can erase my "problem". I'd like to thank all of them by the way, because I can have a morcel of Social Life thanks to them.
And, yes, they are different, because they are trying to understand, and not bullying Aspies, at least.


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28 Nov 2008, 10:09 am

I also meant someone such as myself being "socially naive" by tolerating other people from different groups and not being cliquish. You raise a good point though.

Perhaps I was just lucky enough to have attended a fairly tolerant High School Environment where no-one asked any really awkward questions about me. Many people just accepted me as who I was, bar the odd comment, and let me wander round and do my own thing.

We all had to wear uniforms there. If I had been wearing my regular clothes, I don't think that the others would have been as forgiving...



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28 Nov 2008, 10:13 am

AmberEyes wrote:
We all had to wear uniforms there. If I had been wearing my regular clothes, I don't think that the others would have been as forgiving...

Good Point, I must copy-cat on others' clothes to be a little bit tolerated, but it doesn't make all things go better, actually.Thus, I'm really depressive at this moment because of some naughty kids who are bullying me.


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28 Nov 2008, 10:28 am

DarthMaxeuis wrote:
Good Point, I must copy-cat on others' clothes to be a little bit tolerated, but it doesn't make all things go better, actually.Thus, I'm really depressive at this moment because of some naughty kids who are bullying me.

Those little brats. Still it's good to see you've got your perspective on things, they are just naughty kids. I've no doubt you deserve better. Let's hope they grow out of it. After all, you will not be at school with them forever, but they are stuck with themselves for so long as they live.



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28 Nov 2008, 10:58 am

DarthMaxeuis wrote:
AmberEyes wrote:
We all had to wear uniforms there. If I had been wearing my regular clothes, I don't think that the others would have been as forgiving...

Good Point, I must copy-cat on others' clothes to be a little bit tolerated, but it doesn't make all things go better, actually.Thus, I'm really depressive at this moment because of some naughty kids who are bullying me.


Don't listen to them.

Their shallowness and intolerance are beyond my comprehension.
Do they really have nothing better to do with their time apart from harass others?
That's pathetic.

I don't mean to pry, but have you told anyone about what's going on?

You say that you're depressed, perhaps it would help gain perspective on the situation if you talked to someone such as a trustworthy teacher or adult.

As long as you turn up to school clean and have good hygiene habits, I don't think that there should really be an issue. You have the right as a human being to be able to wear what you want (within reason) without being laughed at.

When will people understand that kids are meant to go to school to learn?

The school-yard was never meant to be a "Cat-Walk".

It's time folks realised this.



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29 Nov 2008, 7:47 pm

pandd wrote:
DarthMaxeuis wrote:
Good Point, I must copy-cat on others' clothes to be a little bit tolerated, but it doesn't make all things go better, actually.Thus, I'm really depressive at this moment because of some naughty kids who are bullying me.

Those little brats. Still it's good to see you've got your perspective on things, they are just naughty kids. I've no doubt you deserve better. Let's hope they grow out of it. After all, you will not be at school with them forever, but they are stuck with themselves for so long as they live.


Well said, pandd.



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29 Nov 2008, 7:56 pm

AmberEyes wrote:
Where does social naivety end and social/cultural tolerance begin?

Is hanging out with the "wrong"/"different" crowd a naive or a culturally enriching experience?

What if the supposedly "wrong" crowd was actually quite harmless and were only deemed "wrong" due to outsiders distorted perceptions of members within a group?

What if this crowd was just different?


I know what you mean. The so-called popular crowd are always telling me I shouldn't hang out with my mates Keri and Laura because apparently they do bad stuff. Which is BS, cos I know my mates and they are simply misunderstood. And who else am I supposed to hang out with, eh, they're the only ones who accept me! My mates, my choice, end of.

Only it ain't End Of to the interfering tards in my class. My ex-friend Jenny has suddenly got in with the popular crowd since we stopped speaking, and I'm like, how did THAT happen, then everyone says I should be friends with her again cos she's "nice". Well, that's one way of putting it, bruv, but it translates to "pain in the arse" in my book. And it's a free country, or so they would have us believe.

Why can't people just live and let live?!


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