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26 Nov 2008, 9:00 am

I know many people have asked the question, what would a world of only autistics and aspies look like. Now I pose the question how would such a world function? More specifically in terms of a social heirachy. Generally most suppose due to their AS/autism that in an NT world they are lower down in the social heirachy (in terms of social influence and popularity). Obviously this is not true for everyone.
But in an all aspie world, would such a thing even exist? Would there be leaders and followers, would there be cliques of 'popular' and 'unpopular'?
Would social prejudices and discrimination still exist?

An example, you dont think that you are very important or popular in the NT world for various reasons. But in the AS world, would all of that be suddenly reversed?

Just interested to know what you think......



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26 Nov 2008, 9:09 am

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But in an all aspie world, Would there be leaders and followers, would there be cliques of 'popular' and 'unpopular'?


I don't reckon so... It would be more likely the groups of autistics that have the same interests/ fixations...

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Would social prejudices and discrimination still exist?


Nope. Because those small groupes of particular interests would hang together, without even noticing the other groups, and other people relly...

And there would be no conflicts and no wars - because everyone would stick only to their hermetic, inner worlds without giving a damn about the outside... :twisted:

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An example, you dont think that you are very important or popular in the NT world for various reasons. But in the AS world, would all of that be suddenly reversed?


You would be just the same ignored and meaningless, only without any abuses and humiliations and opressions...



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26 Nov 2008, 2:03 pm

I once read a Sci-Fi story with a quote that went something like "if everyone paid full attention to all the serious problems of life, who would be left to make flavored shaved ices?"

That would be an ASpie world, we'd all be making eccentric flavors of shaved ices.


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26 Nov 2008, 9:31 pm

We would be NTs



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27 Nov 2008, 3:21 am

ReGiFroFoLa wrote:
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Would social prejudices and discrimination still exist?


Nope. Because those small groupes of particular interests would hang together, without even noticing the other groups, and other people relly...

And there would be no conflicts and no wars - because everyone would stick only to their hermetic, inner worlds without giving a damn about the outside... :twisted:



Conflicts and wars are not NT specific, just cause we are not neurotypical does not mean we are flawless. We can be selfish, we can kill for our own gain, we can do any horrible thing that NTs do, we are not gods.



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27 Nov 2008, 3:49 am

If this autistic world you type of is anything like the majority of posts on WP, it will be very much like an NT world...not much difference.



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27 Nov 2008, 3:57 am

That would be a very dysfunctional world. I don't think it would be a very cohesive society, if WrongPlanet can be interpreted as a microcosm of that world.



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27 Nov 2008, 4:00 am

Unfortunately, the engine of technological advancement for most of humanity, through most of history has been warfare. I don't know if the world as we presently know it would exist if everyone was aspie. I don't see aspies mobbing up into effective armies.

Digression. The evil genius trope in film and literature, an aspie, right? Cold emotionless hyper-analytic solitary plotter of World Domination. Dr. Evil? Stewie? The Brain (tomorrow, Pinky, we take over the World".

Imagine a world solitary garrett-dwelling obsessive plotters, with enormous Star Wars figurine collections.
Also if everyone is an aspie, then aspies would by definition be neurotypical.


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27 Nov 2008, 4:05 am

http://www.aspergia.com/ethos.htm

this is a sf story of the aspergians.
I think its verry good (the whole site)
It has a new view on autism, as the next step in human evolution



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27 Nov 2008, 4:12 am

Social psychology would have to be wholly revamped, if it could endure at all.

No more group-irrational behaviors. No more mobs, crazes, fads, booms.

Social stability would almost be a given. Resistance to change-for-change' sake.

Demographics would plummet. We'd all divide off into very small groups, go off living in the wild, and technology would solidify as its efficiency became apparent.

Malls, theatres, stadiums, dance clubs . . . relics of the past.

I've just started. I'll stop.

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27 Nov 2008, 4:14 am

prillix wrote:
we are not gods.


Jesus would not agree. "Know ye not that ye are gods?'
Personally, since my mind works this way, I hear this 3 different ways.

Question: Don't you guys know that you are gods.
Statement: You guys don't know that you are gods.
Injunction: Do not pay any notice to the fact that you are gods.

And a bonus round,
All of the above with "god's" in the possessive sense instead of the plural sense. As in the statement: "apparently you people are unaware that you come from god and are returning to god, are made by god, in god's own image, belonging to god, and inseparable from god, and that you are in fact, both individually, and in the aggregate sense, gods. how do you make it through the day?"

Of course jesus didn't say all of that, but I think he meant to... (ellipsis to leave you dangling


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27 Nov 2008, 4:17 am

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No more group-irrational behaviors. No more mobs, crazes, fads, booms.

Social stability would almost be a given. Resistance to change-for-change' sake.


I disagree. I think you give Aspies too much credit.



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27 Nov 2008, 4:20 am

By the way, before y'all leap, look, never said I was a christian. Actually Zetetic. Deliberately skeptical of all beliefs, including my own zeteticism.


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27 Nov 2008, 4:25 am

It wouldn't work.
If everyone was AS, there wouldn't be AS, everyone would be NT, as the NT IS AS.
To OP: Nice Avatar, I can't wait for that game to come out. :D


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27 Nov 2008, 4:25 am

:wink: Anything's possible. I've been wrong before.

All my life, there has been one phenomena that really irritated me. It always seems that, in virtually ANY situation, work, play, relationships, travel, whatever, that a stable, happy point comes into existence. Paradise. But of course, it never lasts. Someone has to change things. At the workplace, it's usually a change made in the name of efficiency, but it's never really as efficient as all that. It's just the latest techique the business schools are pushing and the new MBA is simply self-promoting by ordering these changes. Irritates the hell out of moi.

Am I alone in this?

Maybe.

Stability, especially GOOD, functional stability is sooooooo valuable. Yeah, I am extrapolating.

I see you're a veteran, so deserve respect. Let me ask you why it is that you disagree. Perhaps I've missed something. In any case, after you chime in, I'll let it go--don't wanna hijack the thread.

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27 Nov 2008, 4:34 am

As I said, think of WrongPlanet as a functioning microcosm for this Planet of the Aspies. Whatever Aspies cannot or will not do, simply won't get done. And whatever it is that Aspies do too well will be get done too much. Does that make sense?

Yes, I am a veteran on this site. Thanks for noticing.