Hey now...I used to be really into these kind of counter-cultures/labels. I'm not anymore but from a first hand perspective, these people are hugely individualistic most of the time. I admit, there are some "poseurs" but, for me it was an expression. When I was a kid I was very depressed and becoming "goth" gave me an outlet. It's hard to go around putting on a stupid smile and pretending you are happy for everyone, every single day. It feels so monotonous and tedious. Instead I wore black and expressed how I felt on the outside, I didn't have to fake anything. Everyone knew who I was and how I felt(which is very hard for me to express in words).
Beyond that, I made alot of my own clothes, jewelery, etc... as many of these people do. I channeled my depression and sadness into creativity and expression. It really helped me to get through my younger years. Having a group to identify with helped with support and not feeling so alone also. It's no different then what everyone is doing here at WP. When you're feeling out of place in society and not totally sure how to connect with people, you think you're th eonly one who feels so horrible about life because everyone else walks around with a smile, having those other people that feel how you do, makes you feel a little less alienated from the world.
It also provided a defense/coping mechanism for me. As you all probably well know, those younger years are a great time to get harassed by those awesomely cool kids. You know, the ones that have made it their life goal to alienate people as well as obliterate their self esteem. As a goth I just stop caring. I alienated myself and scared the crap out of people. People stopped talking to me and just left me alone. I didn't have to deal with it anymore. I might get a few occasional comments like "are you gonna blow up the school" or "are you gay?" but those questions always gave me a chance to really bother people..."yes I am and you're going to be the first to die" or "why honey? you interested you big muscley man's man?". Basically, in a world so cruel, your "goth label" and fashion might provide you with that sort of protective armor you need. I actually started feeling much happier being goth. Trying to just be normal was so draining, emotionally and physically.
The point here is; don't judge people because of their labels and lifestyle choices. You may think you know all about why they do it but, things aren't so cut and dry. Everyone has a different reason and for some, the choice of one of these labels may actually be greatly beneficial to them during their teen years.
This thread actually makes me kind of sad...I would figure you guys would be the last to judge, especially someone in their teen years. I know a good portion of you know how rough this time was. A little understanding and support can go a long ways for todays youth....
Just think about it a little before you just call them sheep, posers, insecure, etc...it's the last thing that's going to help them or anyone else right now.
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-Tom....
"we used to steal countries through the cunning use of flags, just sail around the world and stick a flag in. I CLAIM INDIA FOR BRITAIN! You can't claim us...we live here...500,000,000 of us...Do you have a flag?" - Eddie Izzard