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13 Mar 2008, 6:20 pm

d AS?


This has never happened to me or anyone I know, but:


Say cops discriminated against me because they knew I was diagnoses with AS.


There is a stereotype that all people with AS aren't good at remembering faces. Say I was attacked and told the cops what my attacker looked like, that he looked like this or like so-and-so, but they didn't take me seriously because of the stereotype.


Say they decided, "There are people who are actually good at that who were attacked, we'll solve those ones first."


Say there was an incident I was trying to explain but they didn't trust what I was telling them because people with AS are supposed to be "not good at reading NT situations". But what if I'm right and my NT enemies/attackers are wrong or lying but they believe them because they're NTs and I'm AS and think I'm totally wrong about the situation because I'm AS and therefore don't understand and the NTs who harrassed/attacked are really okay?


Or if they didn't take you seriously because you were As for any other reason or in any other way.


I could probably sue them for disability discrimination though if that happened. :)



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13 Mar 2008, 7:04 pm

Well, I doubt most people even know enough about AS to make those kinds of assumptions. But if that did happen, hypothetically, that would be discrimination. Although you'd have a tough time proving it in court if you wanted to sue.



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13 Mar 2008, 7:06 pm

People don't take me seriously whether they know I have AS or not.


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13 Mar 2008, 7:11 pm

Has that happened? police can be very understanding,but depends on where it happens whether get treated badly for having an ASD or not.
Some have proper autism and asperger training,others just have cops who are very nice and have natural understanding.


Am have experience with being taken less seriously so often,but luckily it's getting less and less now because of the amount of autism training thats happened.
when previous home staff [From both agencies and council/social services] have found out am have lf Autism [especially if am completely non verbal at the time] am suddenly a profoundly ret*d useless waste of space that isn't worth listening to.
The same people changed when they saw am locating the on switch on the pc,am suddenly became a mega genious savant autistic [the staff knew nothing about computers].
One of the worst of them had learning difficulty [dyslexia] so she should have understood in a way cause she has a weakness,
she came to work here with one of the other residents back in January and she said to dad that am have had serious regressions since she last saw am,all because am did not make her a cup of tv,didn't make her one because she is a nasty person.


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13 Mar 2008, 8:37 pm

The only person to not take me seriously because of autism was my history teacher, but she later became intimidated when she realized that I knew (a lot) more history than she did. Then it changed to resentment.


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13 Mar 2008, 10:52 pm

People seem to act condescending to me after they find out, even people who are supposed to be my friends. So I just let them figure out on their own that something is different about me before I give it a name, and by then it doesn't seem to make a difference.


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13 Mar 2008, 10:55 pm

Oh absolutely. It is a problem with certain family members to this day. I think they use it in such a way to be able to get away with anything since if I protest too much for them they can throw AS at me to dismiss me.



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13 Mar 2008, 11:53 pm

Ana54 wrote:
d AS?


This has never happened to me or anyone I know, but:


Say cops discriminated against me because they knew I was diagnoses with AS.


There is a stereotype that all people with AS aren't good at remembering faces. Say I was attacked and told the cops what my attacker looked like, that he looked like this or like so-and-so, but they didn't take me seriously because of the stereotype.

:)


You got cops that have even HEARD of Asperger's Syndrome, let alone will discriminate against you because they know the STEREOTYPES??

AWESOME!! it is certainly not like that where I live. I have been busted for 'internal possession' because the only stereotype they can think of is that I am drunk or drugged or just simple crazy.

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14 Mar 2008, 12:13 am

I couldn't really get a clear image of what Ana was saying in her post... whether it was something that did happen or just a scenario she devised?
I guess I got the gist of it... has anybody had a cop not take you seriously because the cop knew you had AS and knew enough about it that they would tend to believe someone who contradicted your story?

I agree with Sinsboldy and the others...

I can't imagine too many cops knowing about AS.
If you told them you have a form of Autism, they might think they know something about it whether they do or not, just because of the word - Autism.

With my ADD/HD, I can tell you that people will take advantage of my forgetfullness and try to make it like I ALWAYS forget things.
My former wife would constantly tell me I was wrong about thing... couldn't remember them correctly.. even when I knew I was remembering things correctly... maybe even having a witness or documentation on my side.

I do think there are people who would use your AS against you in that way... just not too many cops... yet.
Someday more of them will know about AS possibly, then maybe they'll start treating you differently.

I know from experience that if someone is acting out of the 'norm', a cop or an EMT, will first suspect drugs or alcohol, then psych issues of the more colorful types... schizophrenia, etc.
I can remember back when we were finally taught to recognize signs of diabetic complications that resemble someone who is drunk... down to the smell on their breath.
This was in reaction to too many patients being locked up in the drunk tank instead of being taken to the hospital to have their diabetic emergency taken care of properly... some of these folks died.

It will take a massive education program like what Rieka did in her part of Alaska (If I remember her post from last year correctly), in order to have emergency personnel better aware of the public they are dealing with and issues such as AS.


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14 Mar 2008, 12:18 am

Arbie wrote:
Oh absolutely. It is a problem with certain family members to this day. I think they use it in such a way to be able to get away with anything since if I protest too much for them they can throw AS at me to dismiss me.


My situation is similar to yours.


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14 Mar 2008, 12:28 am

I don't tell most people in the first place because most people seem unable to understand what it is.



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14 Mar 2008, 1:07 am

SilverProteus wrote:
People don't take me seriously whether they know I have AS or not.


I TOTALLY hear that



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14 Mar 2008, 1:07 am

Arbie wrote:
Oh absolutely. It is a problem with certain family members to this day. I think they use it in such a way to be able to get away with anything since if I protest too much for them they can throw AS at me to dismiss me.


For me the problem is with some members of my extended family, namely, a couple of cousins. It's not anything overt, but there's a subtle, discernable attitude that I think is caused by them knowing that I'm very likely an aspie. They're treating me like a child, like someone inferior to them. It's things like placing me with the children when we're visiting them, patting me on the head (which aside from the demeaning aspects, also feels highly unpleasant to me), even a much colder reception from an otherwise jovial man. It seems like they haven't grasped that even if I don't talk much at these gatherings, preferring to observe, and when I do talk, it's awkward, I still have a brain.



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14 Mar 2008, 5:50 am

LostInSpace wrote:
Well, I doubt most people even know enough about AS to make those kinds of assumptions. But if that did happen, hypothetically, that would be discrimination. Although you'd have a tough time proving it in court if you wanted to sue.
If the assault thing got to court and the attacker was defending himself, his lawyers could demand access to my medical records and police records if there were some, to see if he couldn't make a case about how I really didn't understand, but nothing happened at all, it was all in my head.



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14 Mar 2008, 6:18 am

Very few people know I have AS. I don't tell them about it, I just let them go with thinking "Oh, that's just her and her little quirks...". I don't mind them finding out so much now I'm older, but I'd rather them get to know me first and THEN, when I know they do know me and that it wouldn't affect how they think of me, I would let them find out. I would hate anyone to make a snap judgement of me based on the knowledge that I'm aspergian and let that influence their opinion of me, rather than getting to know me as who I am.


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14 Mar 2008, 8:00 am

YES.i told a friend about it when we were in grade school,i think she googled it or something cause she found all this crap and started telling my other friends that i only had half a brain,and all this crap.

I reemed her about it.

We're stil friends,just she doesn't do that anymore.


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