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05 Jan 2009, 1:19 am

Is swearing really a problem? The people I tend to hang out with swear a lot, and thus the only way I've been able to interact with people is to mimmick their styles. The majority of people I work with are NT and blue collar, so I've adapted to the lifestyle of being a rough person by talking the way that those who I interact with tend to. Unfortunately, I found out that talking the way I generally tend to goes against the rules of the wrongplanet chat room. I think this it pathetic, where a place for those on the Autistic spectrum are supposed to interact with others, but now that I've figured out a way to interact with the people that I'm generally around, I'm considered to be indecent. Where are these rules written down that nobody can include a swear in the way they naturally speak?

It's almost to the point that I have to choose between trying to fit in with the people I work with and the people on wrongplanet. The people I work with swear constantly, it's not meant to offend, the word f**k is just another word in the vocabulary that I've had to include in my normal vocabulary in order to fit in with the people I'm around.

When I come into a group like wrongplanet, I feel that the object is to feel as though I am normal along with everyone else here. This is a place for those on the autistic spectrum to feel comfortable being themselves, yet when I talk the way I usually do from years of blue collar work, I get banned from the chat room because the way I personally adapted to society is not acceptable by whoever decided how we're all supposed to act.

Has anyone else had any issues of where you finally found a nitch in society, only to find that the way you respond to society is not accepted by the Asperger's community?



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05 Jan 2009, 1:23 am

i am female. i swear like a trooper. in any context. and i am a WP member.
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05 Jan 2009, 1:43 am

I don't mind that swearing isn't allowed in the chat room. It states it's a family-friendly chat.



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05 Jan 2009, 2:19 am

I'm personally not offended by swearing in the slightest. However, there are most likely people on WrongPlanet who are, which is why the rule is there in the first place.

Pardon my observation, but you didn't seem to have a problem typing that entire post without using expletives. Why not censor yourself on the chat in the same way to avoid offending others?



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05 Jan 2009, 2:21 am

I avoid unnecessary swearing in the same way I avoid using any other words unnecessarily. But when I use them, they have power. f**k yes.

(If you are a moderator, please read the rest of my post before flipping out.)

Also, I think the desire to shield people from "bad words" is fundamentally flawed. The necessity of such effort is questionable, in that the justification is based on an assumption that words (or in fact knowledge) may hold some inherent danger. Its effectiveness is equally questionable, especially regarding naïve word filters like the one in place here. Inevitably, some things get through, and some innocents are unfairly censored. As for the chat (where, if I remember correctly, the policing is done by live people who whine at you if you're not nice), there is an alternate channel where you can swear. Or so I remember it. We're talking about the IRC channel, right? There are only a handful I've ever seen that are really censored, and they all seem to be worse off than the uncensored channels - moderators in most places don't usually care, even if there are rules against it. I can handle some profanity and the occasional NSFW link, but the drama that wells up over swearing in some places is just too stupid for me to bear, and it destroys online communities and even real-life friendships.


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05 Jan 2009, 3:09 am

I basically never swore till i was 12, then one day i just swore all the time. I am Aussie, and Aussies are pretty vulgar in general, but thats no excuse. I think its more me just trying to fit in and mimicking others i dunno.



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05 Jan 2009, 3:23 am

buryuntime wrote:
I don't mind that swearing isn't allowed in the chat room. It states it's a family-friendly chat.

Exactly! I swear at times but only around the right people. I would not swear in front of children and I get really annoyed when parents swear in front of and at their children.
The only time I would swear would be in anger or around friends that feel comfortable with swearing, and for those friends that aren't comfortable with swearing I wouldn't do it.
Swear words are not very polite words to begin with. Just look at the meanings of the words.



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05 Jan 2009, 8:43 am

People notice swearing. People usually don't notice the lack of it. So I'm calling BS on your assertion that you need to swear in order to fit in with your group. "Where's my beer?" works just as well as "Where's my f*****g beer?" in determining where your beer is. If you keep the bad words in reserve, they'll make a much bigger impact when you need them to.
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05 Jan 2009, 9:37 am

i do not swear because i already know what i am going to say when i say it.

swearing is like replacing an "ummmm" or an "ahhhh" with a real word that comes from a small reserve.

i do not say "umm" or "ahh" when i type, so i need not swear either.

swearing is also an attempt to display personality i think.

i have no personality i wish to display, so i do not use swearing to befriend other people.



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05 Jan 2009, 9:44 am

I see words as a group of letters formulated together that has been given meaning in order to help us communicate. Just like the words are man-made, so are the letters, so spiritually it has no real value. But, many religious orders will have you believe cuss words are a sin as opposed to how you use the words (any words for that matter). Seriously, what makes these words bad?

Another thing I don't get is the FCC. You can't say the Fword, but you can use any synonym of the word, like sex. What is even funnier is Lil John's Skeet Skeet...the FCC allowed that, but that's only because they didn't know what it was. I still don't think they know what it means. They even covered a cuss word with those words for radio purposes... "and I'll skeet skeet skeet skeet skeet skeet" instead of "and I'll skeet skeet mother badword."

When I cuss in public and someone says something to me about it, I always say, "Tell me the name of the person who deemed the word a bad word, and I will stop using the word." If they continue, I add, "well, I'm really offended when you use the word (insert a word they just said). It's a bad word in case you didn't know. I will stop cussing when you stop." My grandma used to have the "m-word" which was marriage. When I was a kid, we weren't permitted to use that word around her. LOL. In the military, I was deeply offended when people used the S-word...Surrender.

I will also say once I was sitting at this Hardees with my sister. They were packed with people because it was just after the bars closed and they were one of the only places open at that hour to get food. It was loud with conversation, so my sister and I get this bright idea that we would just talk and then throw out certain words to see what caught people's attention to our conversation, and words such as alien and booger got more attention than the f-word.

I also remember eating at a Bob Evans (like a Perkins) with an exboyfriend, and we were talking about spirituality and the meaning of life, and some guy leaned over and said he was offended by our conversation. We weren't even cussing or anything like that. I get so offended at people's ignorance, but no one is worried about offending me.

But, I try not to cuss on forums because I don't want to get in trouble. Since I got kids, I personally have no problem with cussing around my kids, but I don't want people to think I'm a bad mom, so I don't cuss around them. Lately, I've been coming up with replacement words. My husband uses Gardenia instead of GD. Snap or shiznit instead of Sh.... Or frickalick for the f-word in a sexual sense. I actually have come up with some creative ones that I forgot what they were, but it's hard to come up with a word that comes out as natural as the cusswords, so I'm still working on it. I do find it fun to think about specific words that remind me of the cuss words...like word association. It's kinda funny at times. Like say a word immediately when I say the F-word. I usually come up with things like what I'm f-ing like the world, the police, or something like that as opposed to the sexual nature of the word. But I figure someday it will help me find a great replacement word.



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05 Jan 2009, 12:51 pm

I don't usually swear, only on the taxi to school, and even then I barely swear. For some reason I can't really swear around other people, yet I hear people do it everywhere.


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05 Jan 2009, 12:56 pm

I have always wondered what the big deal about swearing is, it's just words... I'm not allowed to say certain words which are for some reason are offensive... Free speech indeed.



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05 Jan 2009, 1:00 pm

The same concepts expressed with swearing can be just as easily expressed without swearing, and with much greater style and eloquence.



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05 Jan 2009, 1:13 pm

I can throw a good f-bomb at times.

It's one of my worst habits.



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05 Jan 2009, 6:23 pm

I swear a lot, but it's not because I'm being influenced by others. It's more of a tic issue.


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05 Jan 2009, 6:31 pm

I didn't swear at all until probably college. People always used to try to get me to say cursewords. I'm not sure why I didn't curse- it may have been related to my rigid following of rules.

Now I curse sometimes (with age I've learned which rules are okay to relax, for instance I now drive slightly above the speed limit at times), but usually not unless I'm really upset.

I find heavy cursing not offensive, but just stupid-sounding, like the person is trying to prove something. People who curse a lot to me always sound awkward and ill-at-ease. I don't have any problems with rules prohibiting cursing.


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