A genuinely useful Aspie trait

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Exuberance !

Having diminished awareness of the world, means that Aspies aren't weighed down by the same sense of burden that afflicts NT's - who typically display more mature, less exuberant mindsets/behaviours.

Call it youthful exuberance, if you will - a kind of ignorance is bliss type of thing.

I entirely agree

I wouldn't call it ignorance in my case, I just don't care and that makes me happy.

i think you're trying to make a silk purse out of a sows ear, so to speak.
the only useful aspie trait is heightened intellegence and an ability to accurately analise things.
of cousre that doesnt include other peoples signals n s**t

Useful? I think it's a good trait, but I really don't see it as useful. Useful in what way?

We can't have the cake and eat it too. You're either relations-clueless or you're not. We can't control how our Aspieness will make things turn out. Eg: I had a boyfriend once whom all my friends had shown no interest in flirting with because they were aware how very out of their league he was. He was indeed a very special person and astoundingly good-looking. I, being relations clueless as usual, didn't catch he was out of my league and enjoyed a wonderful 2 years with him. I never saw another man as good-looking as him outside a movie screen. People would turn around to look at him on the street and at places we went to.

This is not the case for me. I'm very reserved, though I think the opposite would be more beneficial.

i don' thave diminished awareness of the world - if anything, my relentless analysis results in the opposite!

However, i do have a childish innocence and an exuberance that knows no bounds on occasions. i get filled with fervour for my passions and special interests and that is one of the best things about not being able to regulate my emotions. (as I've stated many times in other posts, the more subtle emotions escape me.)

and i agree. it is absolutley wonderful.

the down side is the other extreme -the meltdowns.

i do think thisisnotmyrealname is right. and i am glad to see a post that isn't all bloody doom and gloom and filled with the usual "this is what is wrong with me" garbage. that is great at times and needed, so that we can identify with one another.

BUt...3 cheers for positive threads.


as for being relationships clueless and the black and white thinking that says you either are or you are not- --well... i do not agree with greentea. NOT my experience at all.

i was completely relationships clueless when i was young. it was hell. I did not understand what was going on around me at all. Not at all. i still struggle at times and on many days i cannot cope with people, but i have improved a lot because i have put an enormous amount of work into cognitive therapy and social skills training. I have learned many things, and while i have to put in more effort to cope with relationships than others, i can do it and i am proud of my achievements and my capacity and my willingness to learn and to grow - as any human being might - AS or NT.
i'm not interested in being a victim in my attitudes. I find groups hard. i do not go out much. i prefer one on one. complex exchanges are difficult when it involves a number of people. BUT i have the willingness to learn. I have learned and i think positivity and really uplifting thread topics like this one should be applauded.

IT's well known that people with AS can and do improve over time. it doesn't mean losing one's "aspieness." i am not a "curebie." It simply means that later in life because of life experience and exposure to many situations, one has more skills than earlier on in life. Some - not all - but some of the older aspies will be able to attest to similar experience.

I just never want my AS to be used as an embittered excuse, or a kind of resentful and black and white label that does nothing to serve me and can in fact appeal to that more negative side of me that wants to wallow in the "woah is me...i have AS."

speaking for myself, here. rant is now over.

cube, the grammar of the metaphor has been simplified for "everyday use". The correct wording would have to be: "You can't both have eaten your cake and still have it whole". In my native language (Spanish) we say: "You can't both have your pig whole and the coins in your hand", meaning you can either keep your pig intact or break it to get the coins inside. These metaphors are used to convey those situations that are either-or, where choosing one cancels out the other automatically. We could also say: "You can't both have rain and dry fields." or "You can't have a lit match inside a pail full of water" or whatever you choose...

Now regarding the application of the metaphor: what is meant is not that you can't have everything you want and more. What is meant is that in certain situations, you can't have both situations happening at once. Some people choose one course of action, then complain they didn't get the results of the opposite course of action. This is when others tell them "You can't have the cake and eat it". Eg: you can't both devote every single minute of your work time to your family and home, and become a renowned Science Professor at the same time.

What I meant in my post above is that you can't both be socially lacking in intuition and at the same time have so much social intuition to know when to use your lack of it to your advantage.