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11 Jan 2009, 3:27 pm

Do you feel that with Aspergers you get to live life more or less than most people or NTS?



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11 Jan 2009, 3:35 pm

Both. I can just live day to day life in a way that suits who I am very well. But I struggle with the fact that I need to be more social, and have these social connections, but I lack the understanding to have them.



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11 Jan 2009, 3:41 pm

More. I think I see that there's more to life than just the area I live in, while most of the NTs round here don't. I just can't wait to get out of Yorkshire.; it's funny how a place so full of nature can seem utterly devoid of life. But most of the NTs I know seem destined to stay in the same town in a dead-end job.


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11 Jan 2009, 4:31 pm

I feel that I live life differently than most people. I wouldn't call it more or less, just different.



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11 Jan 2009, 8:00 pm

Amik wrote:
I feel that I live life differently than most people. I wouldn't call it more or less, just different.


Same here.



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11 Jan 2009, 8:12 pm

ForsakenEagle wrote:
Amik wrote:
I feel that I live life differently than most people. I wouldn't call it more or less, just different.


Same here.


Me too.


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11 Jan 2009, 8:15 pm

Amik wrote:
I feel that I live life differently than most people. I wouldn't call it more or less, just different.


Yeah, same here too. In some ways, maybe I live more, because I notice details that other people don't notice, and I live in those details. And I live in my head a lot, probably more than most. But in some ways I live less - I don't go out drinking or spending a lot of time around others or generally doing the things that other people live for (supposedly), and I miss out on a lot of things, such as social details, because I just don't notice them. But it doesn't bother me because I don't see any of these things as inherently good or bad, more or less. They're just a bundle of perceptions. And they are different. Just different.



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11 Jan 2009, 8:43 pm

'Life', as a concept in general use, refers to energy, not perception, as far as I understand. So while a good night out involves interpreting alot of perceptions, what makes it fun is responding in an energetic way.

I think we have the same energy as others, but less obvious means of channeling it.

Us aspies tend to spend a lot of time sat down reading {How else would we develop 'special interests'?}. Does any1 else find that this leads to constantly feeling dizzy/spaced out, as a result of not using up much energy-?



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14 Jan 2009, 2:56 am

Neither. Or either, depending on the person.



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14 Jan 2009, 3:25 am

It depends on what area of my life it is. Socially, I definitely live less, but I like it that way so it's not necessarily something I think of as a negative thing. Though in some ways I feel like I live more because I notice little things that most people take for granted. Most of the time, those are the things that make my day. So yeah, I think I just live differently but I still feel pretty fulfilled.



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14 Jan 2009, 4:59 am

Both. Most people would need to board a rollercoaster or take drugs to experience some of the things my brain does to me while just sitting quietly. Many ask why I never get bored, because they perceive my life as uneventful.



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14 Jan 2009, 5:09 am

my views concerning this shift constantly. yesterday and last night i felt really down about AS and this afternoon i feel fine about it. IT really is a fluctuating state of affairs for me and so many factors contribute to my stance at any given time. how nice though, that my view changes in this fashion and i am not permanently trapped into perceiving i am trapped by AS. it certainly does feel like this sometimes - especially in relation to some sensory issues i live with and also in relation to my executive function (or lack thereof!)

I do enjoy the mindless detail that consumes me - and the way i compartmentalize bits of information into seemingly impenetrable streams of consciousness that have an internal logic to me and very few else. I do enjoy my intensity and the capacity to hyper-focus in a way that is difficult for others to fully understand or keep up with, and even though that can be difficult at times, i would never want to lose those qualities. I enjoy the way i walk down a street and all the patterns of a pavement entrance me - the small shards of glass atop the bitumen surface and the bit of white pipe cleaner that is lying down on the black ground like some fallen beauty queen. the crooked tiles on the wall next to the bitumen and the grainy wooden surface of a telegraph pole. I cannot explain how exhilarating these things make me feel. it is really wonderful. these things mean very little to anyone else,although they may mean something to a few people on WP - and they fill me with joy and excitement. i get a buzz out of surfaces..texture, patterns... these experiences make me who i am. it is a good thing...a grand thing, in fact. I am a painter and i do not even need to re-create these things. it is simply enough for me to look and see and enjoy the process of comprehending the grandeur of small detail.



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14 Jan 2009, 1:25 pm

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I do enjoy the mindless detail that consumes me - and the way i compartmentalize bits of information into seemingly impenetrable streams of consciousness that have an internal logic to me and very few else. I do enjoy my intensity and the capacity to hyper-focus in a way that is difficult for others to fully understand or keep up with, and even though that can be difficult at times, i would never want to lose those qualities. I enjoy the way i walk down a street and all the patterns of a pavement entrance me - the small shards of glass atop the bitumen surface and the bit of white pipe cleaner that is lying down on the black ground like some fallen beauty queen. the crooked tiles on the wall next to the bitumen and the grainy wooden surface of a telegraph pole. I cannot explain how exhilarating these things make me feel. it is really wonderful. these things mean very little to anyone else,although they may mean something to a few people on WP - and they fill me with joy and excitement. i get a buzz out of surfaces..texture, patterns... these experiences make me who i am. it is a good thing...a grand thing, in fact. I am a painter and i do not even need to re-create these things. it is simply enough for me to look and see and enjoy the process of comprehending the grandeur of small detail.


If that's what goes on in your head, then questions of life and fulfilment as NTs understand them can't even be applied to you! Nonetheless, I don't believe any of the physical objects you describe are invested with any of what you see in them, or indeed any other intrinsic qualities - Maybe you just feel towards them the love that you'd apply to more-complex things (i.e. other people) if you were NT :?



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14 Jan 2009, 1:46 pm

I made up for having a realtively solitary and lonely life by going out and having what I called 'adventures' that eventually lead to extremes in almost everything looking for new and exciting things to do that 'normal' people didn't do. Still do it today. It's a hard habit to break.


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14 Jan 2009, 2:23 pm

undefineable wrote:
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I do enjoy the mindless detail that consumes me - and the way i compartmentalize bits of information into seemingly impenetrable streams of consciousness that have an internal logic to me and very few else. I do enjoy my intensity and the capacity to hyper-focus in a way that is difficult for others to fully understand or keep up with, and even though that can be difficult at times, i would never want to lose those qualities. I enjoy the way i walk down a street and all the patterns of a pavement entrance me - the small shards of glass atop the bitumen surface and the bit of white pipe cleaner that is lying down on the black ground like some fallen beauty queen. the crooked tiles on the wall next to the bitumen and the grainy wooden surface of a telegraph pole. I cannot explain how exhilarating these things make me feel. it is really wonderful. these things mean very little to anyone else,although they may mean something to a few people on WP - and they fill me with joy and excitement. i get a buzz out of surfaces..texture, patterns... these experiences make me who i am. it is a good thing...a grand thing, in fact. I am a painter and i do not even need to re-create these things. it is simply enough for me to look and see and enjoy the process of comprehending the grandeur of small detail.


If that's what goes on in your head, then questions of life and fulfilment as NTs understand them can't even be applied to you! Nonetheless, I don't believe any of the physical objects you describe are invested with any of what you see in them, or indeed any other intrinsic qualities - Maybe you just feel towards them the love that you'd apply to more-complex things (i.e. other people) if you were NT :?


oh yeah. well that is what makes me different to you. and that IS what goes on in my mind - most of the time, i think you are right that i invest in objects a love i can rarely achieve with other human beings face to face. it is something about intensity. all grist for the mill and all good though. the stuff i describe makes my life meaningful and means shite to most people.



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14 Jan 2009, 2:42 pm

millie wrote:
well that is what makes me different to you.


I never said I've never been at all like u in that respect - Read William Wordsworth's Intimations of Immortality from Recollections of Early Childhood

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well that is what makes me different to you, and that IS what goes on in my mind _ _ _ and means shite to most people.


Give the rest of us a few magic mushrooms and it's a different story :lol:

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most of the time, i think you are right that i invest in objects a love i can rarely achieve with other human beings face to face. it is something about intensity. all grist for the mill and all good though. the stuff i describe makes my life meaningful.


I'd quibble that life can only ever feel meaningful or good. I still feel that loving other ppl is somehow more meaningful, as there's something more on the other end_