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15 Jan 2009, 6:28 pm

Professor Simon Baron-Cohen: Autism is not cancer

http://www.communitycare.co.uk/Articles/2009/01/14/110412/professor-simon-baron-cohen-autism-is-not-cancer.html

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Research into the biomedical causes of autism spectrum conditions is moving forward at a tremendous pace, with new genes being associated with autism almost every month, and with a strong drive by scientists to find biological markers, perhaps to improve diagnosis, and to understand causes.

On the BBC health website recently, I flagged up the need for the autism community (parents and professionals and those with the diagnosis) to be thinking ahead about how such research might be used, rather than just leaving it to the scientists.

Our research at the autism research centre (ARC) in Cambridge does focus on understanding possible biological causal factors but is not motivated by a desire to develop a prenatal test for screening. It is simply to increase our knowledge of how autism comes about.

It is unfortunate that sometimes the popular press seizes on the opportunity to discuss such basic research into causes in terms of its implications for prenatal screening. This happened in the Guardian with our research into foetal testosterone, for example, despite the fact that the research we conducted was not a prenatal screening study and did not study diagnosed autism. (Both were errors in how the research was reported).

However, we must realize that as science uncovers possible causes, this information may be picked up by drug companies or other researchers and used in ways that the original team did not envisage.

If there was a prenatal test for autism (and there isn’t one at present and there may not be one for several years), this could have one clear benefit, which is to bring forward the age at which diagnosis is possible, from the current average age of three years old. Knowing antenatally that your child might develop autism could mean that families could prepare, that proper support could be put in place, and that psychological therapies could be started at an earlier point (even from birth).

If there was a prenatal test for autism, there might be some disadvantages:

1. There might be eugenic selection against foetuses who might develop autism, and this is a form of discrimination against those who are not neurotypical.

2. Some parents might opt for a termination because they think their child will not have a good quality of life, even though the child may in fact make a good adaptation and/or society could adapt to them.

3. The genes for autism may be linked to the genes for talent (and by talent I don’t just mean the musically or artistically or mathematically gifted, but even in those with apparent learning difficulties there may be an excellent memory, or excellent attention to detail and patterns, or an excellent ability to focus attention for long periods, or acute sensory hyper-sensitivity), such that eradicating the genes for autism may also eradicate the genes for these talents.

If there was a prenatal test for autism, some parents will exercise their parental choice and opt for a termination, and this is within the law, and I support parents’ freedom to choose or not choose to have a baby.

My own view is that I think all foetuses – all people - have a right to life; that the value of a person’s life cannot be judged by characteristics such as whether they have good or poor social skills, or whether they are talented or ordinary or have learning disabilities. Every individual is special, and while we are all different, no one is better or worse than any other and no one’s right to life is greater or less than anyone else’s.

Some individuals may need more support than others, and it is a mark of a civilized community that we provide such support for those who need it. Finally, diversity is part of nature, including human beings, and there are many neurological sub-types that make up the spectrum of individual differences.

Autism is not like cancer, where there are fewer controversies surrounding whether one should select embryos who will never suffer from cancer. That is because autism is not a disease, and need not lead to suffering, and with enough accommodation by society, people with autism can be free of suffering. Autism itself is a wide spectrum, and many people with autism can make valued contributions. But even those who will remain dependent all their lives are either special to those who love them, or just intrinsically special.

I have a sister, Suzie, who is in her 40’s, and has profound learning difficulties and physical disabilities. She is in a wheelchair, needs 24-hour nursing care, cannot feed herself, has almost no language, and probably has a lower level of psychological than a one-year-old. Yet she enjoys people, enjoys simple pleasures, and has a quality of life. She laughs, she cries, she sings, she jokes. My relationship with her is among the richest I enjoy. I am glad that she is alive and that she was not screened out of existence before birth and that my parents did not opt to terminate her life. People don’t have to earn their right to life by having the skills to make a contribution. They have a right to life. Period.



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15 Jan 2009, 7:19 pm

Good man.


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15 Jan 2009, 7:44 pm

Angels are born onto this earth.......like Suzy......they chose to be born so that there would be MORE love in the world......not more physical and mental....... 'perfection'. The goal is Love, not fulfilling a computer-like model of sameness perfected in the 'Land of Engineered Hell'.



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15 Jan 2009, 7:55 pm

I endorse the response. It's good to have clarity about this issue. Thanks for posting it outlier.



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15 Jan 2009, 7:59 pm

Well said.

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15 Jan 2009, 8:02 pm

That's a great article and clarifies a lot about the man. Thanks, outlier.


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15 Jan 2009, 8:25 pm

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Every individual is special, and while we are all different, no one is better or worse than any other and no one’s right to life is greater or less than anyone else’s.


Bingo.



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15 Jan 2009, 8:28 pm

I really like this man. :)



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15 Jan 2009, 8:43 pm

It was eloquent and I appreciate his statement.

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15 Jan 2009, 9:17 pm

Must be difficult for professionals such as Dr. Baron-Cohen and Prof. Attwood when their work and intentions are misreported by organisations and individuals with their own agender.

Realise this is a consequence of being in the public arena for these people. Appreciate their willingnes to inform people of their true ambitions and intentions in the field of autism.

Thank you for the post. Refreshing wisdom!!



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15 Jan 2009, 9:33 pm

Could we please hire him as a spokesman pretty please a very smart man who doesn't have his head up his you know what.



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15 Jan 2009, 9:33 pm

Even though I like what he has to say the danger of prenatal screening is still there

"If there was a prenatal test for autism (and there isn’t one at present and there may not be one for several years),"



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15 Jan 2009, 11:22 pm

Simon Baron-Cohen (SBC to the cool) is remarkable for a couple of reasons :

He studied under Lorna Wing when she introduced the category of Asperger's. As such, he
is the researcher with the most years of experience on the subject.

He invented the AQ test.

He has published several studies connecting autism with mathematical talent.

He is first cousin to Sascha Baron-Cohen, better known as Borat.



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16 Jan 2009, 1:49 am

He has redeemed himself somewhat from his earlier editorial, with its implication that autistics only deserve life if we can do cool stuff like card-counting. This one is less well-written, but I like the sentiment expressed much better.


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16 Jan 2009, 2:02 pm

Orwell, do you have a link to the earlier article? Or has it been posted here elsewhere?

I'm glad he said what he did here, but then, he pretty much had to. He has a gift for promoting his ideas, and, regardless of his intentions, he is very good at reducing his research to soundbyte science that the media laps up, the way they do. I do not want him as a spokesperson for autism, because I don't think he's a very good researcher. I think he's too good at communication to be able to empathize with our struggles in that department. Also, god does not seem to be in the details for him. He might just as well be studying unicorns, sometimes.

But, saying all that, I'm glad he made this statement. It's his responsiblity to, but I think he did a pretty good job. And talking about his sister gives him more credibility, too.