What's the difference between asperger's & being introve

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10 Apr 2012, 5:40 pm

I believe Asperger's/Autism is a continuum that everyone is on. Wondering is being an introvert is just being on a place on the continuum that just doesn't look so much like Asperger's but is.


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10 Apr 2012, 6:21 pm

There are extroverted aspies, though.



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10 Apr 2012, 6:21 pm

WonderWoman wrote:
I believe Asperger's/Autism is a continuum that everyone is on. Wondering is being an introvert is just being on a place on the continuum that just doesn't look so much like Asperger's but is.


Well, if it is that case, it will make more sense to consider that autism/asperger is a place in the introvert continuum than that the introvertion is a place in the autism continuum (it is two different ways of saying the same thing, of course, but it will makes more sense to use introvertion - 50% of the population - instead of autism - 1% of the population - as the "standard").

However, there are reasons to think that there are different things:

- autistics are not necessarily introverts (after all, one of the possible symptoms of aspergers is initiating talks about special interests with people that we barely know)

- I am not sure if there is a connection between restricted interests and introvertion

- usually is assumed that autistics are good at details; in this specific point (if this is true), autism will be more similar to extroversion: in "normal" personalities, I think that are usually the extroverts that are good at details, while introverts are more of the "highly abstract thinking" type.



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10 Apr 2012, 6:24 pm

15% of the pop is introvert, 70% is a mix (some more one way some more the other), 15% are extroverts.


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10 Apr 2012, 6:27 pm

For being diagnosed with an ASD you need to have a clinically significant impairment in different areas of functioning.
I do not know if this applies for being introvert as well.
Having an ASD also does not necessarily mean that one has to be introvert.


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10 Apr 2012, 6:31 pm

Alexender wrote:
15% of the pop is introvert, 70% is a mix (some more one way some more the other), 15% are extroverts.


This is simply a question about where we put the lines between "introvert", "mix" and "extrovert".



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10 Apr 2012, 6:32 pm

TPE2 wrote:
Alexender wrote:
15% of the pop is introvert, 70% is a mix (some more one way some more the other), 15% are extroverts.


This is simply a question about where we put the lines between "introvert", "mix" and "extrovert".


true. Sorry for correcting you. Now that you pointed that out I realized that was only a small part of what you were talking about, an insignificant detail.


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10 Apr 2012, 6:32 pm

This is a good read on the minds of introverts, though it doesn't address how introversion compares to ASDs:

http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles ... -introvert



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10 Apr 2012, 6:44 pm

Ettina wrote:
There are extroverted aspies, though.

I enjoy social interaction but then I need significant downtime to process.



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10 Apr 2012, 6:46 pm

A study comparing autistic traits (measured by Baron-Cohen AQ) with the "five factors" of personality

http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.paid.2004.04.022

According to the study, there was a correlation of 0.44 between AQ and introvertion. It is a big value, but probably not big enough that we can consider "introvertion" and "autism" simply quantitative variants of the same underlying phenomenon. According to the study, there was a high correlation between introvertion and problems with social skills (0.66), a moderate correlation with problems with communication and "theory of mind" (0.15) and none correlation with attention to detail/rigid routines.



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10 Apr 2012, 6:54 pm

Alexender wrote:
TPE2 wrote:
Alexender wrote:
15% of the pop is introvert, 70% is a mix (some more one way some more the other), 15% are extroverts.


This is simply a question about where we put the lines between "introvert", "mix" and "extrovert".


true. Sorry for correcting you. Now that you pointed that out I realized that was only a small part of what you were talking about, an insignificant detail.


But, thinking better in the issue, can be argued that the "autistics are 1% of the population" is also a question where we put the lines between "autistic" and "non-autistic".

[I confess that one of the reasons why I wrote that introverts are 50% of the population was to help the fight against the internet myth that "introverts are 25%, extroverts are 75%"; this goes against everything that I have read about that - almost all research show a normal distribution of the introvertion/extrovertion dimension - but that factoid is constantly repeated in internet foruns]