Does this kid have Asperger's? (Spelling Bee champion)

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Mw99
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06 Feb 2009, 10:20 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3_tn4qcSNw[/youtube]

You be the judge.


Edit: Here's a video of the full interview. Notice his mannerisms:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRZNQ06kWyc[/youtube]



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06 Feb 2009, 10:28 pm

Heh, definitely an Aspie 8)

I'm impressed by the woman btw, she doesn't seem to feel any annoyance, she just seems to think "what a cute kid".



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06 Feb 2009, 10:28 pm

YES!


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06 Feb 2009, 10:30 pm

Yes he does. I found that out through a facebook group because a member in it knows the family in real life.



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06 Feb 2009, 11:00 pm

The comments on youtube are so mean:

"I want to beat that [expletive] up"
"Homeschooling does that"
"He is a ret*d/idiot/moron/antisocial/smartass"
"He needs to go to school to learn social skills

(yeah, right, with all the bullying he would experience on a day to day basis, I daresay his social skills would actually decrease if he went to regular school)

So many mean comments :(



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06 Feb 2009, 11:36 pm

Yep, and he's cool in my opinion.

O, and yeah, it's easy to see why social schooling isn't the best thing for someone with an ASD.



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07 Feb 2009, 12:05 am

I would think so yes.



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07 Feb 2009, 12:44 am

No. And where did you all get your super-powered psychology degrees that you can diagnose in 1/100th of the time it takes a normal psychologist?



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07 Feb 2009, 1:04 am

No, how are you all coming to the conclusion this kid is an aspie?

One thing is for sure, if he was, the news lady would of pointed that out and made an even bigger deal out of it.


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07 Feb 2009, 1:21 am

Ok, I'll show you how I diagnosed him:

No facial expression other than a smile, and said smile is used inappropriately
a monotonous voice
can only talk about his interest; when the lady brought up his mother, he had a long pause, and he began to fiddle with his hands (there's a few more instances of this)
socially inappropriate and rude comments, even though they aren't intended to be rude; interrupting too

He appears like someone with run-of-the-mill Asperger's.



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07 Feb 2009, 1:22 am

Dokken wrote:
No, how are you all coming to the conclusion this kid is an aspie?

One thing is for sure, if he was, the news lady would of pointed that out and made an even bigger deal out of it.


The disparity between his social skills and his obvious talent for spelling suggest that something is a little off with him. I can't really think of many conditions besides Asperger's and PDD-NOS.



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07 Feb 2009, 3:32 am

MrGerbz wrote:
I'm impressed by the woman btw
She's definitely pure NT. Doesn't know or care how to pronounce it, but expects the kid to spell it. He was more gracious than I would have been.

Dokken wrote:
One thing is for sure, if he was, the news lady would of pointed that out and made an even bigger deal out of it.
Not a chance. (1) She never would have spotted it on her own; (2) She wouldn't have said it; (3) If anyone thought of it, she would have been specifically instructed not to say it.

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No. And where did you all get your super-powered psychology degrees that you can diagnose in 1/100th of the time it takes a normal psychologist?
That one's easy. 'Cause we're smart as hell and they're not. Any more questions?
Also, we don't need to drag it out and justify our paychecks.

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socially inappropriate and rude comments, even though they aren't intended to be rude; interrupting too.
I didn't catch that. I'd have to look again.



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07 Feb 2009, 3:39 am

Danielismyname wrote:
Ok, I'll show you how I diagnosed him:

No facial expression other than a smile, and said smile is used inappropriately
a monotonous voice
can only talk about his interest; when the lady brought up his mother, he had a long pause, and he began to fiddle with his hands (there's a few more instances of this)
socially inappropriate and rude comments, even though they aren't intended to be rude; interrupting too

He appears like someone with run-of-the-mill Asperger's.


I would also like to add:

Flat emotional effect, or at least it is suppressed when he's placed under the pressure of an interview. He said he wasn't surprised, but I'd bet he was. I'd bet he went into the competition not really knowing what to expect of the outcome.

Choppy speech and difficulty pronouncing words in a sentence that he'd properly pronounce if just saying one word, and certainly he would properly spell in writing. I also do this, but it was worse when I was a teenager.

Saying "we" when he probably meant "I", thereby confusing the reporter. I mix up pronouns (I, we, you) a lot, too.

Interpreted literally the question about what his mom said, and didn't know. Most people would automatically know, or would think to ask mom and remember what she said, or at least be smooth about making something up that probably fits the truth reasonably. I freeze on questions like this, too. Yesterday I froze on the question of whether I would like to get some coffee.

The subway sandwich thing threw him for a loop. Why did she throw that in there? I bet that didn't make any sense to him, and he didn't know what to do with it. The NT response to that question would have been something to the effect of saying that he eats the sandwiches, rather than freeze up and interpret the question literally. The literal answer is "No, I ate at the dinner provided at the contest." which wasn't what the reporter was looking for. It was a product placement, and I'd bet he came away thinking the intent was a little dishonest, if he thought about it afterward.

I've had an interview over the phone (I called into a talk radio program) and I found that sound feeds can be riddled with delays, echos, and crosstalk from other channels, and this made me overwhelmed and probably sounding stupid on the other end. I didn't get on the air.

As for the youtube comments:

"I want to beat that [expletive] up"
"Homeschooling does that"
"He is a ret*d/idiot/moron/antisocial/smartass"
"He needs to go to school to learn social skills

Wow, they really don't get it, do they? I've been called antisocial and ret*d. People will come up with mean things to say and do seemingly without reason. Does it make people feel bad or look bad when a seemingly "ret*d" person outdoes them on something? His parents need to help him with whatever social skills he can learn before having him interact with peers, or else he won't learn anything useful from it.

As for the reporter:

She's definitely NT. Smooth talker, hides her irritation well, (though I caught onto a bit of condescension in the "brain food comment?) and doesn't miss a beat despite not always having her facts straight (His name, facts about his food consumption).


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07 Feb 2009, 3:46 am

Mage wrote:
No. And where did you all get your super-powered psychology degrees that you can diagnose in 1/100th of the time it takes a normal psychologist?


We don't have to. Someone else already did. (See spokanegirl's comment) It's interesting to see the behavior and see how it fits the description, and see whether we also do the same things.


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07 Feb 2009, 7:20 am

Awkward. I think he comes off as awkward. Interesting to know he has AS.

I'm never to sure how awkwardness is related to AS and whether it is a possible and/or common expression of the symptoms or a trait that some people just posses. Because I don't have that but I have AS.


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07 Feb 2009, 7:40 am

In the updated video, he does the typical hand movements of someone with an ASD as he's talking.

Sora,

He didn't look that awkward to me; he showed problems with his speech [that is also common to ASDs], but he looked genuinely impaired rather than simple awkwardness in relation to the social interaction, i.e., he doesn't know, and never will know any different. Paucity of his speech is due to not being able to converse that well about things other than his interest (you'll note he starts talking well and his eyes light up when he questions the lady about the word she asked him to spell).

Funnily enough, I'm betting that he wouldn't have achieved what he did if he went to a normal school, rather, he probably would be depressed due to his disorder and how people would treat him. One just has to read the various comments on the 'net regarding him, and it's easy to see how normal schooling would be torture for him [and also others who are outliers in regards to social interaction]. People suck.