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07 Feb 2009, 1:50 pm

awww thanks bruh



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07 Feb 2009, 1:50 pm

Welcome to WP!



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07 Feb 2009, 1:52 pm

well, it is not a 'disease'. It is a neurological condition that deviates from the norm.

I hope you find the answers you are seeking here on WP.

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07 Feb 2009, 1:58 pm

Some of these traits seem similar to AS, but some traits (especially #2) seem like there is something else going on here. Hallucinations aren't typical of AS.



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07 Feb 2009, 2:04 pm

are yall autistic? reading some of these threads everyone seems pretty normal at least to me

but id like to help him if i can, i mean he prolly does have asperger but even he got diagnosed i dont think he would ever accept it to be honest



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07 Feb 2009, 2:13 pm

beareater wrote:
are yall autistic? reading some of these threads everyone seems pretty normal at least to me

but id like to help him if i can, i mean he prolly does have asperger but even he got diagnosed i dont think he would ever accept it to be honest


Well, yeah. Most of us are. We seem normal mainly because:

A) Higher-functioning forms are more or less undetectable to the larger population, so you don't notice that people like us are autistic in real life.

B) Communication online is easier for us than communicating in real life. So, even in the cases that you WOULD notice something "up" with someone in real life, their online communication would seem more normal.

And in the case of your brother...I wouldn't push it. Sometimes, people just like to live their lives without knowing they "have anything". But, it's good that you're showing concern.



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07 Feb 2009, 2:23 pm

Katie_WPG wrote:
beareater wrote:
are yall autistic? reading some of these threads everyone seems pretty normal at least to me

but id like to help him if i can, i mean he prolly does have asperger but even he got diagnosed i dont think he would ever accept it to be honest


Well, yeah. Most of us are. We seem normal mainly because:

A) Higher-functioning forms are more or less undetectable to the larger population, so you don't notice that people like us are autistic in real life.

B) Communication online is easier for us than communicating in real life. So, even in the cases that you WOULD notice something "up" with someone in real life, their online communication would seem more normal.

And in the case of your brother...I wouldn't push it. Sometimes, people just like to live their lives without knowing they "have anything". But, it's good that you're showing concern.


oh aight no offense then

but thing is this asperger can affect his ability to take care of himself/make money/get married

unless of course theres a way he can get some monthly govt $

im wonderin if i should show him this site, i doubt he would like it tho



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07 Feb 2009, 2:26 pm

another odd thing is even tho he's antisocial, he doesnt even talk with people online or post on message boards, UNLIKE YOU GUYS

he has AIM and never goes on it, basically just browses, downloads and does his bizness

u would think internet life would make sense for someone like him but no :?



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07 Feb 2009, 2:27 pm

beareater wrote:
are yall autistic? reading some of these threads everyone seems pretty normal at least to me

but id like to help him if i can, i mean he prolly does have asperger but even he got diagnosed i dont think he would ever accept it to be honest


We are normal sounding because we are using what we do best. . .words. If you met most of us you would notice we might not look you in the eye, or we would stand sorta to the side of you, or not address you by name. You might be confused because our faces might not change expression much, or our body language might not correspond to what we are saying in words to you.

It is not a deliberate attempt to deceive you, but simply because as we don't have the usually inborn decoder to read these signals in other people's conversation to us, we also don't naturally show those signals to others, either. But now you can understand that our minds work perfectly well, we just have a faulty body and facial language decoder, is all.

your brother might have some of the symptoms I suggested, but it does not mean he might not have other issues, too.

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07 Feb 2009, 2:39 pm

sinsboldly wrote:
beareater wrote:
are yall autistic? reading some of these threads everyone seems pretty normal at least to me

but id like to help him if i can, i mean he prolly does have asperger but even he got diagnosed i dont think he would ever accept it to be honest


We are normal sounding because we are using what we do best. . .words. If you met most of us you would notice we might not look you in the eye, or we would stand sorta to the side of you, or not address you by name. You might be confused because our faces might not change expression much, or our body language might not correspond to what we are saying in words to you.

It is not a deliberate attempt to deceive you, but simply because as we don't have the usually inborn decoder to read these signals in other people's conversation to us, we also don't naturally show those signals to others, either. But now you can understand that our minds work perfectly well, we just have a faulty body and facial language decoder, is all.

your brother might have some of the symptoms I suggested, but it does not mean he might not have other issues, too.

Merle


ye i know exactly what u mean, my bro actuaally stands to the side all the time and continuously looks away

but everybody has their own little awkward traits anyway, nothin crazy bout that

but i feel u tho, just wanna know what he can do to improve his genetical programming



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07 Feb 2009, 2:39 pm

beareater wrote:
Katie_WPG wrote:
beareater wrote:
are yall autistic? reading some of these threads everyone seems pretty normal at least to me

but id like to help him if i can, i mean he prolly does have asperger but even he got diagnosed i dont think he would ever accept it to be honest


Well, yeah. Most of us are. We seem normal mainly because:

A) Higher-functioning forms are more or less undetectable to the larger population, so you don't notice that people like us are autistic in real life.

B) Communication online is easier for us than communicating in real life. So, even in the cases that you WOULD notice something "up" with someone in real life, their online communication would seem more normal.

And in the case of your brother...I wouldn't push it. Sometimes, people just like to live their lives without knowing they "have anything". But, it's good that you're showing concern.


oh aight no offense then

but thing is this asperger can affect his ability to take care of himself/make money/get married

unless of course theres a way he can get some monthly govt $

im wonderin if i should show him this site, i doubt he would like it tho


Well, some can. Some can't. It usually depends on the severity of the Asperger's, or if the person has any other additional disorders.

Personally, I haven't had any problems with keeping employment or looking after my affairs. But some might.

But, I wouldn't be so quick to assume that someone wouldn't be capable of getting employment. I've seen some parents do that, and their kids are only worse off because of it. If they've never had a chance to know what employment feels like and they're put on welfare right away, leaving the system when they're older will be extremely difficult.



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07 Feb 2009, 2:41 pm

beareater wrote:
another odd thing is even tho he's antisocial, he doesnt even talk with people online or post on message boards, UNLIKE YOU GUYS

he has AIM and never goes on it, basically just browses, downloads and does his bizness

u would think internet life would make sense for someone like him but no :?


Lots of times posting to people online is off because we so often are misunderstood by people that don't have our slant on life. People here have started at their own pace, posting and reading, finding more that makes sense and people that know just how he feels in life and what they did about it.

Many of us have homes and families and wives and husbands and jobs and educations. We share with each other how we got them and how others have them too. Some of us have struggled to get what we have, some have had an easier time of it.

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07 Feb 2009, 2:48 pm

Katie_WPG wrote:
beareater wrote:
Katie_WPG wrote:
beareater wrote:
are yall autistic? reading some of these threads everyone seems pretty normal at least to me

but id like to help him if i can, i mean he prolly does have asperger but even he got diagnosed i dont think he would ever accept it to be honest


Well, yeah. Most of us are. We seem normal mainly because:

A) Higher-functioning forms are more or less undetectable to the larger population, so you don't notice that people like us are autistic in real life.

B) Communication online is easier for us than communicating in real life. So, even in the cases that you WOULD notice something "up" with someone in real life, their online communication would seem more normal.

And in the case of your brother...I wouldn't push it. Sometimes, people just like to live their lives without knowing they "have anything". But, it's good that you're showing concern.


oh aight no offense then

but thing is this asperger can affect his ability to take care of himself/make money/get married

unless of course theres a way he can get some monthly govt $

im wonderin if i should show him this site, i doubt he would like it tho


Well, some can. Some can't. It usually depends on the severity of the Asperger's, or if the person has any other additional disorders.

Personally, I haven't had any problems with keeping employment or looking after my affairs. But some might.

But, I wouldn't be so quick to assume that someone wouldn't be capable of getting employment. I've seen some parents do that, and their kids are only worse off because of it. If they've never had a chance to know what employment feels like and they're put on welfare right away, leaving the system when they're older will be extremely difficult.


i feel u, this condition defintly isnt bad enough to not even try a job

but hes had numerous jobs, one including a dating agency LMAO, but he never kept them of course and always deviated at work

i think hes better off doin somethin on his own, creating some kind of product, service, etc.....

i gtg tho if yall have any suggestions about how i can talk to him about this lemme kno or whateva else, ill be bak lata

pz



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07 Feb 2009, 2:53 pm

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or not address you by name

woah is that an aspie trait it seems every part of my personality is down to aspergers :lol:



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07 Feb 2009, 2:54 pm

still sounds very aspie to me,
but certainly what a great brother to have

look, mate, if he ain't bothered, he ain't bothered
but you are right to be bothered -

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but thing is this asperger can affect his ability to take care of himself/make money/get married


you have been doin' some homework -
those are the main problems of almost all aspies later in life;
but if he is, he got time...

some of the things you describe make me think he might even be sort of rehearsing how he could act in social situations (the ozzie accent, and all the time spent watching those similar clips) maybe he just also very shy..., even for an aspie...

BUT IF SO: don' t push him, he might draw back further

why don't you hang around here for a bit yourself,
i really enjoyed your post - if only i'd had a brother like you

(i had, sort of, he would have been like you at heart, but he was an aspie himself and that didn't help, because neither of us knew it, and he made even more of a mess of his life, until he died of cancer almost six years ago now - gosh if only we would have known then; he was also very good at sports (a bit better than me))

(not that aspies are more likely to develop cancer, but if you don't know what it is that is eating you...; and generally, autistic people find it very hard to ask anyone for help - and very likely may not even be aware they would actually gladly suffer some assistance)

all in all: hope you stay a while (lots to be researched on WP!!); don't push your big bro but you be a bit of a big bro to him - just as you are right now: look out for him just a bit:
at least he's got someone who knows there may be an answer to problems he will be running into!

good luck, bro!

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07 Feb 2009, 3:48 pm

MegaAndy wrote:
sinsboldly wrote:
or not address you by name

woah is that an aspie trait it seems every part of my personality is down to aspergers :lol:


I get so flustered when someone uses my name! I rarely remember anyone' name and if I do, I would have to be very hard pressed to call someone by name ( I feel it is WAYYY too personal, and feel that when someone calls me by name.) I change my name every three to five years anyway, and even get that creepy feeling if someone calls me by my new name.

Is that an Aspie trait? I don't know. . .

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