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13 Feb 2009, 9:24 pm

i am convinced that she is on the spectrum her self. She is atleast Broader Autism Phenotype (BAP) in interviews with her mother she states that Nadya suleman ever since her teenage years had been "obsessed" with children. also that ever since she was young she was always "shy". Also ive read a from a few sources (idont know how true they are though) from people who know her/knew her that when she was little she seemed alittle "off" their words not mine.

Combine all that with the fact that she has one older child confirmed to be on the spectrum, one confirmed with ADHD ( which we all know is sometimes a misdiagnosis for those with mild aspergers.), and one with speech problems, and the knowledge that autistic spectrum disorders tend to run in families.... you get the picture



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13 Feb 2009, 9:30 pm

Ravenclawgurl wrote:
which we all know is sometimes a misdiagnosis for those with mild aspergers


It is not necessarily a misdiagnosis, ADHD is something all to itself... Aspergers can be accompanied by ADHD, and ADGD may appear completely on its own.



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13 Feb 2009, 9:30 pm

Interesting....could be. I wonder if she is a "good mother" to her children. If so, I think the media should leave her alone. If not..well :roll:



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13 Feb 2009, 9:36 pm

Padium wrote:
Ravenclawgurl wrote:
which we all know is sometimes a misdiagnosis for those with mild aspergers


It is not necessarily a misdiagnosis, ADHD is something all to itself... Aspergers can be accompanied by ADHD, and ADGD may appear completely on its own.


I wish I could draw on this, instead of type.. Aspergers would be the primary, adhd, panic d/o, social anxiety ETC.. stems from the A.S. in my opinion :wink:



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13 Feb 2009, 9:36 pm

Can anyone be a "good mother" to 16 young children? Even preschool classes have aides....



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13 Feb 2009, 9:38 pm

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Can anyone be a "good mother" to 16 young children? Even preschool classes have aides....


LOL.. I guess you do have a good point.. But then there is always Mrs. Dugger..she's a damn good mom, blanket training and all :roll: :roll: J/k



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13 Feb 2009, 9:38 pm

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Can anyone be a "good mother" to 16 young children? Even preschool classes have aides....


Somewhere on my paternal grandmothers side someone had 23 kids... They managed, and they all turned out fine, the ones that lived to adulthood that is, and that was most of them.



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13 Feb 2009, 11:19 pm

I guess that explains why she had all these babies without a husband! Not that that matters all that much these days anyway. I've also been shy and thought to be "a little off". However, it's a good thing I'm not obsessed with children, because, as a guy, partnerless reproduction is not an option for me. What was she thinking? Doesn't the world have too many people as it is?

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13 Feb 2009, 11:47 pm

Well, when the new "screening for autism in utero" is in motion, along with more things like the Gardasil vaccine, The U.S.A. "diet" of big macs and diet coke.. I think populaton control is already in order :roll: The first makes me sick but I won't elaborate and bore you 8)



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13 Feb 2009, 11:52 pm

She's not making smart decisions, whether she's on the spectrum or not. You just don't get your doctor to implant six embryos when you don't even have fertility problems. You're bound to wind up with at least triplets and you have a significant chance of ending up with more. Well, she got eight, and she's lucky it didn't kill all of them and her too.

If she's that fascinated with babies, you'd think she'd study the statistical chance of a two-pound preemie surviving to adulthood. The chances of death are significant. Plus, you'd think she'd at least wait until after she had her degree instead of trying to raise all those kids below the poverty line, without much help.

I don't know whether she's Spectrum, but those are some seriously unwise choices.


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14 Feb 2009, 12:17 am

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She's not making smart decisions, whether she's on the spectrum or not. You just don't get your doctor to implant six embryos when you don't even have fertility problems. You're bound to wind up with at least triplets and you have a significant chance of ending up with more. Well, she got eight, and she's lucky it didn't kill all of them and her too.

If she's that fascinated with babies, you'd think she'd study the statistical chance of a two-pound preemie surviving to adulthood. The chances of death are significant. Plus, you'd think she'd at least wait until after she had her degree instead of trying to raise all those kids below the poverty line, without much help.

I don't know whether she's Spectrum, but those are some seriously unwise choices.


She won't raise her kids below the poverty line. There will be people who will feel sorry for the kids and give her money.

I even heard something about a possible book deal.



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14 Feb 2009, 12:30 am

She couldn't have counted on eight when she did the procedure, though. She probably figured on triplets or something like that. I'm looking at the decision she made, not the possible outcome you mention--that she was "lucky" enough to get octuplets and a lot of publicity.


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14 Feb 2009, 1:11 am

Ok, I just spend the last half hour or so reading up on her and her children. She is against any form of abortion, and when doing in vitro you have a very high chance of having multiples. The doctors suggested that they "remove" some of the embyo's. She said no. Personally I agree with her. I don't think she planned to have so many children, and I understand her way of thinking. Every person is here for a reason, who am I to pick which embryo is better than the other, or which one deserves to die. She wanted to have ONE more, and ended up with eight. Hopefully she is up to the task..



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14 Feb 2009, 1:26 am

She had the same number of embryos with every other pregnancy and never had octuplets before. Really, it's just that she was against terminating any of the fetuses not that she woke up one morning and said "I think I'll have octuplets! :twisted: Woo!" She had singles or twins in the other cases so she probably figured... worse case scenario would be triplets

[incidentally, the person I blame in this is her doctor for not informing her better]

Although I have to wonder when she'd have stopped. She says she's done now but if this pregnancy would have been, say, triplets (still more than any pregnancy before, but nothing newsworthy), would she have kept going?

I think there's an OCD aspect to it, a collecting impulse, which is interesting because OCD can be comorbid with ASDs.

Now... one of her kids has autism and there are 2 with undefined disabilities. They could have gotten it from their father since they all have the same father but I still wonder. I think she's just run of the mill crazy, not any kind of autistic.

Then again, to trust that doctor...

So I'm conflicted.



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14 Feb 2009, 1:49 am

when i first read about her, i honestly thought she could be on the spectrum as well, crazy... and all the octuplets are all premies, so they have a higher chance of developing autism as well, can u imagine, 14 possible autistic children, and an ASD mother as well, now that one has to go in the record books heheh...


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