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08 Mar 2009, 6:12 pm

I'm not sure if its an aspie thing. But a lot of us do show at least some kind of interest in other people. But there's a select few on here that don't seem to even achknowledge the other person. Its just "me me me", "my problems". They might as well be talking to a automated machine. Maybe they just aren't aware of it, and pointing it out to them may upset them.


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08 Mar 2009, 6:17 pm

I can be narcissistic but for me a big part of it is that I'm trying to figure out what exactly my issues are and how I can deal with them so I can get my head out of my own behind and learn to deal with people better.



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08 Mar 2009, 6:26 pm

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Maybe they just aren't aware of it, and pointing it out to them may upset them.

I think you're right about that. Better to not point it out, in my opinion. First because if they really are narcissists, they will become angry and deny it and become an enemy; secondly, if they're not, you will bruise their feelings or insult them and that's not a good idea.



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08 Mar 2009, 6:27 pm

benjimanbreeg wrote:
Maybe they just aren't aware of it, and pointing it out to them may upset them.
Probably.

Or maybe they're in a tough time, and what you see is not the normal self. Considering the posts of yours that I've seen, I suspect that you've never hit bottom. With a little luck, you never will.

Some people hit bottom and bounce back. Some of us just shatter and stay there for a while. Then they pile harassment on top of everything else. That just makes it harder to get up. You can never really know what someone else is dealing with.

In a place like this, I think it's better to err on the side of naive. If someone's doing the best he can, I don't want to dump unhelpful criticism. If he is really narsissistic, nothing I say will matter anyway.



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08 Mar 2009, 7:34 pm

benjimanbreeg wrote:
I'm not sure if its an aspie thing. But a lot of us do show at least some kind of interest in other people. But there's a select few on here that don't seem to even achknowledge the other person. Its just "me me me", "my problems". They might as well be talking to a automated machine. Maybe they just aren't aware of it, and pointing it out to them may upset them.


AS are accused of being self-centered. I think that's part of the social issues, not really narcissism.

Narcissists have delusions of their own grandeur and will often go to great lengths to validate their delusions, some even to the point of criminal activity and abuse.

They also feed off the admiration and attention of others. Sometimes they develop into very socially manipulative, charismatic users.

AS tend to be more self-centered than narcissistic, IMO. A personality disorder tends to develop in some intense interpersonal trauma or codependent attachment. AS tend to be too independent to develop codependent-type personality disorders.



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08 Mar 2009, 7:51 pm

My Ex-husband was a real NT narcissist. I don't know if an Aspie can really be a narcissist. Narcissists crave to be worshiped by other people, and I think Aspies tend to just not 'see' other people. I think there's a qualitative difference in where the behavior comes from.



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09 Mar 2009, 7:55 am

AS + depression can lead to frustration, dread, and in some extreme cases (such as mine) narcissistic personality disorders such as egomania and sociopathy...looking back i can see that this narcissism will probably be more common in late-diagnosed AS folk with a history of abuse/rejection/etc.



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09 Mar 2009, 8:14 am

ephemerella wrote:
benjimanbreeg wrote:
I'm not sure if its an aspie thing. But a lot of us do show at least some kind of interest in other people. But there's a select few on here that don't seem to even achknowledge the other person. Its just "me me me", "my problems". They might as well be talking to a automated machine. Maybe they just aren't aware of it, and pointing it out to them may upset them.


AS are accused of being self-centered. I think that's part of the social issues, not really narcissism.

Narcissists have delusions of their own grandeur and will often go to great lengths to validate their delusions, some even to the point of criminal activity and abuse.

They also feed off the admiration and attention of others. Sometimes they develop into very socially manipulative, charismatic users.

AS tend to be more self-centered than narcissistic, IMO. A personality disorder tends to develop in some intense interpersonal trauma or codependent attachment. AS tend to be too independent to develop codependent-type personality disorders.


I agree with the above post. Except, I'm not really sure that it's self-centeredness, but what would appear as such due to lack of social or emotional reciprocity, which is listed as #4 in the DSM under Qualitative impairment in social interaction.

Also, there are one or two people that I think do have a personality disorder that post regularly. Not only by the self-centered nature of their posts, but how they know just how to bait everyone into chaos, then sit back, and watch the show.



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09 Mar 2009, 8:39 am

I love taking personality disorder tests.

I'm supposedly a Sociopath and Paranoid, as well as Schizoid, Schizotypal and Obsessive-Compulsive.

I never get Histrionic, Dependent, Narcissist or Avoidant though.



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09 Mar 2009, 8:49 am

My wife says I'm narcissistic because of my selfish nature, but honestly the biggest narcissist I know is a VERY neurotypical, VERY narcissistic prick and I'm nothing like him.



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09 Mar 2009, 11:19 am

Xanderbeanz wrote:
AS + depression can lead to frustration, dread, and in some extreme cases (such as mine) narcissistic personality disorders such as egomania and sociopathy...looking back i can see that this narcissism will probably be more common in late-diagnosed AS folk with a history of abuse/rejection/etc.


I see you have AS dx - do you have the a dx for the narcissism too?



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09 Mar 2009, 1:32 pm

serenity wrote:
ephemerella wrote:
benjimanbreeg wrote:
I'm not sure if its an aspie thing. But a lot of us do show at least some kind of interest in other people. But there's a select few on here that don't seem to even achknowledge the other person. Its just "me me me", "my problems". They might as well be talking to a automated machine. Maybe they just aren't aware of it, and pointing it out to them may upset them.


AS are accused of being self-centered. I think that's part of the social issues, not really narcissism.

Narcissists have delusions of their own grandeur and will often go to great lengths to validate their delusions, some even to the point of criminal activity and abuse.

They also feed off the admiration and attention of others. Sometimes they develop into very socially manipulative, charismatic users.

AS tend to be more self-centered than narcissistic, IMO. A personality disorder tends to develop in some intense interpersonal trauma or codependent attachment. AS tend to be too independent to develop codependent-type personality disorders.


I agree with the above post. Except, I'm not really sure that it's self-centeredness, but what would appear as such due to lack of social or emotional reciprocity, which is listed as #4 in the DSM under Qualitative impairment in social interaction.

Also, there are one or two people that I think do have a personality disorder that post regularly. Not only by the self-centered nature of their posts, but how they know just how to bait everyone into chaos, then sit back, and watch the show.


Just thought i'd make a post then :wink:


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09 Mar 2009, 1:37 pm

Some people come here to rant about their problems. Also I can see why it might be easier for us to be self-involved because our world revolves so much more around our own minds than other people (for many of us, anyway, isn't that really the basic premise of autism?)

But on the other hand, 99.9% of people in this world are selfish so... whatcha gonna do?
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09 Mar 2009, 1:45 pm

benjimanbreeg wrote:
serenity wrote:
ephemerella wrote:
benjimanbreeg wrote:
I'm not sure if its an aspie thing. But a lot of us do show at least some kind of interest in other people. But there's a select few on here that don't seem to even achknowledge the other person. Its just "me me me", "my problems". They might as well be talking to a automated machine. Maybe they just aren't aware of it, and pointing it out to them may upset them.


AS are accused of being self-centered. I think that's part of the social issues, not really narcissism.

Narcissists have delusions of their own grandeur and will often go to great lengths to validate their delusions, some even to the point of criminal activity and abuse.

They also feed off the admiration and attention of others. Sometimes they develop into very socially manipulative, charismatic users.

AS tend to be more self-centered than narcissistic, IMO. A personality disorder tends to develop in some intense interpersonal trauma or codependent attachment. AS tend to be too independent to develop codependent-type personality disorders.


I agree with the above post. Except, I'm not really sure that it's self-centeredness, but what would appear as such due to lack of social or emotional reciprocity, which is listed as #4 in the DSM under Qualitative impairment in social interaction.

Also, there are one or two people that I think do have a personality disorder that post regularly. Not only by the self-centered nature of their posts, but how they know just how to bait everyone into chaos, then sit back, and watch the show.


Just thought i'd make a post then :wink:
:lol:

No, seriously, I wasn't pointing any fingers at you. I absolutely refuse to post in the threads, or in response to any of the people that I'm referring to. Drama really annoys me, so I try to steer clear if at all possible.



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09 Mar 2009, 1:55 pm

serenity wrote:
benjimanbreeg wrote:
serenity wrote:
ephemerella wrote:
benjimanbreeg wrote:
I'm not sure if its an aspie thing. But a lot of us do show at least some kind of interest in other people. But there's a select few on here that don't seem to even achknowledge the other person. Its just "me me me", "my problems". They might as well be talking to a automated machine. Maybe they just aren't aware of it, and pointing it out to them may upset them.


AS are accused of being self-centered. I think that's part of the social issues, not really narcissism.

Narcissists have delusions of their own grandeur and will often go to great lengths to validate their delusions, some even to the point of criminal activity and abuse.

They also feed off the admiration and attention of others. Sometimes they develop into very socially manipulative, charismatic users.

AS tend to be more self-centered than narcissistic, IMO. A personality disorder tends to develop in some intense interpersonal trauma or codependent attachment. AS tend to be too independent to develop codependent-type personality disorders.


I agree with the above post. Except, I'm not really sure that it's self-centeredness, but what would appear as such due to lack of social or emotional reciprocity, which is listed as #4 in the DSM under Qualitative impairment in social interaction.

Also, there are one or two people that I think do have a personality disorder that post regularly. Not only by the self-centered nature of their posts, but how they know just how to bait everyone into chaos, then sit back, and watch the show.


Just thought i'd make a post then :wink:
:lol:

No, seriously, I wasn't pointing any fingers at you. I absolutely refuse to post in the threads, or in response to any of the people that I'm referring to. Drama really annoys me, so I try to steer clear if at all possible.


So you start a thread and then just sit back? :twisted:


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09 Mar 2009, 1:58 pm

From what I can tell most on here are interacting the best they can. Why not be less judgmental and more accepting of minor imperfections?