Is this fair?
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I work at a fast food resturant. I've worked there for a few months now. And I understand how to do pretty much everything. Nobody there knows I have AS. That's not what this is really about. I have Epilepsy though, and whenever I get overheated, I will have a seizure. Because of this, I asked not to be put at the fry station or the grill.
Last work day, my manager, although knowing I can't work there, put me at fries. I begged her not to put me there, and she put me there anyway. She said I would only be there for a little while. I did what she told me and worked on fries. For about 20 minutes. And if I would step away to cool off, she would yell at me, even thought I wasn't supposed to be at fries anyway. But I worked at fries for a little longer until I couldn't take it any longer and I begged her to move me. She made me stock things. (I'm not complaining. You don't get hot in a basement.) Then all of a sudden, she wanted to make me do this and that sweep, mop. After I had already done it 20 minutes earlier. She was watching me mop, and she yelled at me for the way I was mopping the floor. Ok. I'll Learn. But she was giving me the crud jobs all of a sudden.
I think she is mad at me because I am unable to work fries even though it is becuase of a medical condition, not because I don't want to. Even today, she was gave me crap jobs. I didn't complain, but she just hasn't acted the same since I told her I won't work fries anymore. And sent me home after I had only been at work for an hour and a half.
She used to be really nice, and I liked her a lot.
I really need to have a job so I can get school credit, but I am tired of this. I don't know if I should look for a new job or not...what do you think?
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This IS typical! Not FAIR, but TYPICAL! I don't know WHY she had you STAY at the fry station. MOST have a NASTY beeper and EVEN MCDONALD'S will have it beep CONTINUOSLY with NO sense of urgency. SURELY, you could step away for a few minutes with NO problem on THEIR side.
When you failed to do that, she gave you other jobs she felt you could handle. Maybe they were understaffed, and/or she had a BAD day. Try to talk to her about it(like she doesn't know), and consider other options.
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That does sound unfair. Is there a doctor's note you can bring in? I'm sure lot of people come up with excuses to avoid certain tasks at work so they make up conditions they have so only a doctor's note would be proof yours is for real and you aren't making up an excuse.
Last edited by Spokane_Girl on 08 Mar 2009, 10:35 pm, edited 1 time in total.
I agree. Get a doctor's note. They should not discriminate against your disability and they are.
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also remember what a young lady on WP once told me.
" Fair is where you can get blue ribbons and corn dogs."
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" Fair is where you can get blue ribbons and corn dogs."
Merle
I can get blue ribbons and corn dogs in life. So this means life is fair?
No, it means the opposite. It's a play on the double meaning of the word "fair". When someone insists on something being fair, this phrase is used as a comeback. Just as a fair (the kind with carnival rides, food, and animal exhibitions) doesn't happen often, life being fair (as in when everyone is treated fairly) doesn't happen often either.
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" Fair is where you can get blue ribbons and corn dogs."
Merle
I can get blue ribbons and corn dogs in life. So this means life is fair?
No, it means the opposite. It's a play on the double meaning of the word "fair". When someone insists on something being fair, this phrase is used as a comeback. Just as a fair (the kind with carnival rides, food, and animal exhibitions) doesn't happen often, life being fair (as in when everyone is treated fairly) doesn't happen often either.
wow, I didn't know that is what it meant, but that is as good of an explanation as any I have seen! Remember what The Band said:
You can walk on the water, drown in the sand
You can fly off a mountaintop if anybody can
Run away, run away--its the restless age
Look away, look away--you can turn the page
Saw a man with the jinx in the third degree
From trying to deal with people--all the people that you see
Take away, take away, this house of mirrors
Give away, give away, all the souvenirs
Were all in the same boat ready to float off the edge of the world
The flat old world
The street is a sideshow from the peddler to the corner girl
Life is a carnival--its in the book
Life is a carnival--take another look
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Last work day, my manager, although knowing I can't work there, put me at fries. I begged her not to put me there, and she put me there anyway. She said I would only be there for a little while. I did what she told me and worked on fries. For about 20 minutes. And if I would step away to cool off, she would yell at me, even thought I wasn't supposed to be at fries anyway. But I worked at fries for a little longer until I couldn't take it any longer and I begged her to move me. She made me stock things. (I'm not complaining. You don't get hot in a basement.) Then all of a sudden, she wanted to make me do this and that sweep, mop. After I had already done it 20 minutes earlier. She was watching me mop, and she yelled at me for the way I was mopping the floor. Ok. I'll Learn. But she was giving me the crud jobs all of a sudden.
I think she is mad at me because I am unable to work fries even though it is becuase of a medical condition, not because I don't want to. Even today, she was gave me crap jobs. I didn't complain, but she just hasn't acted the same since I told her I won't work fries anymore. And sent me home after I had only been at work for an hour and a half.
She used to be really nice, and I liked her a lot.
I really need to have a job so I can get school credit, but I am tired of this. I don't know if I should look for a new job or not...what do you think?
Any condition that would make it difficult for you to carry out the duties you contracted to do and receive pay for, you should let your employer know about it. Epilepsy is potentially dangerous to the people around you. Especially in a crowded place. Being AS may have not have a negative impact on your ability to do your work, but epilepsy very well might.
ruveyn
" Fair is where you can get blue ribbons and corn dogs."
Merle
I can get blue ribbons and corn dogs in life. So this means life is fair?
No, it means the opposite. It's a play on the double meaning of the word "fair". When someone insists on something being fair, this phrase is used as a comeback. Just as a fair (the kind with carnival rides, food, and animal exhibitions) doesn't happen often, life being fair (as in when everyone is treated fairly) doesn't happen often either.
wow, I didn't know that is what it meant, but that is as good of an explanation as any I have seen! Remember what The Band said:
You can walk on the water, drown in the sand
You can fly off a mountaintop if anybody can
Run away, run away--its the restless age
Look away, look away--you can turn the page
Saw a man with the jinx in the third degree
From trying to deal with people--all the people that you see
Take away, take away, this house of mirrors
Give away, give away, all the souvenirs
Were all in the same boat ready to float off the edge of the world
The flat old world
The street is a sideshow from the peddler to the corner girl
Life is a carnival--its in the book
Life is a carnival--take another look
Basically, by IGNORING the meaning of fair as in "honest, just, equitable", it implies such a meaning isn't real. It also implies, as being declared as a non sequitor, that that meaning is NOT legitimate. It says basically "DON'T expect the world to be honest, just equitable"!
I just watched about madoff's deal. He committed a LOT of felonies! For individuals, he broke blue sky laws! FELONY! He had a PONZI scheme FELONY! He obstructed justice! FELONY! He basically committed contempt of court! FELONY! He STOLE! He misrepresented! He fenced STOLEN GOODS! He commited TAX FRAUD! BTW it crossed state lines which brings the FBI into the picture!
Yet they CLAIM he can only get 20 years! Statistically, he probably won't even live that long.
His FAMILY is guilty of obstruction of justice, receipt of stolen goods, etc.... Yet they say the family may get off SCOT FREE!
Is that FAIR!?!?!? If I broke just ONE blue sky law, I may be locked up for 20 years. People DIED over his garbage. GRANTED, they were stupid, but is that FAIR!?!?!? Such garbage has cost me basically over $13,000, and I only got $300 back. The FBI agent even told me the guilty party couldn't pay the money back!
Last work day, my manager, although knowing I can't work there, put me at fries. I begged her not to put me there, and she put me there anyway. She said I would only be there for a little while. I did what she told me and worked on fries. For about 20 minutes. And if I would step away to cool off, she would yell at me, even thought I wasn't supposed to be at fries anyway. But I worked at fries for a little longer until I couldn't take it any longer and I begged her to move me. She made me stock things. (I'm not complaining. You don't get hot in a basement.) Then all of a sudden, she wanted to make me do this and that sweep, mop. After I had already done it 20 minutes earlier. She was watching me mop, and she yelled at me for the way I was mopping the floor. Ok. I'll Learn. But she was giving me the crud jobs all of a sudden.
I think she is mad at me because I am unable to work fries even though it is becuase of a medical condition, not because I don't want to. Even today, she was gave me crap jobs. I didn't complain, but she just hasn't acted the same since I told her I won't work fries anymore. And sent me home after I had only been at work for an hour and a half.
She used to be really nice, and I liked her a lot.
I really need to have a job so I can get school credit, but I am tired of this. I don't know if I should look for a new job or not...what do you think?
Any condition that would make it difficult for you to carry out the duties you contracted to do and receive pay for, you should let your employer know about it. Epilepsy is potentially dangerous to the people around you. Especially in a crowded place. Being AS may have not have a negative impact on your ability to do your work, but epilepsy very well might.
ruveyn
GOOD POINT! IMAGINE a person that has just lifted a batch of fries from old hot oil having a grandmal seizure! That could lead to blindness, burns, and even DEATH! Granted, death is unlikely, though a person mid sentence COULD have it splashed into their throat, or get a burn near the carotid artery, and DIE! Blindness and burns are certainly FAR from unlikely. So WHY have such a person working the fry station? Even HAMBURGERS would be easier, as there is less movement and grease that the seizure could affect.
BTW if an employer does that, and an employee splashes oil on another person because of it, the EMPLOYER is responsible! And it can be VERY expensive! Don't believe me? Here is a MORE ridiculous example that is REAL! $2.86Million for DEFECTIVE COFFEE! OK, OK! You got me! They lowered it to ONLY $640,000! But STILL! And mcdonalds was NOT really responsible there, as any REASONABLE person would realize that people like their coffee HOT, and mcdonalds had to provide it at a hotter temperature to provide for transport.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v. ... estaurants
Meh. They still had a responsibility not to serve the stuff at temperatures that would scald you if an employee got clumsy and accidentally spilled it on you. That was a lawsuit just waiting to happen anyway; we're just lucky it didn't get spilled on a kid or something. If there's anything you learn when you study industrial design, it's that you have to put safety margins into everything, and that eventually, everything that can go wrong will go wrong--so you have to plan for it. You design assembly lines with the expectation that somebody will eventually get their shirt caught in a conveyor, even though any reasonable person wouldn't wear a shirt loose enough to be caught; it's just negligent not to design coffee machines (or mandate their settings) with the expectation that somebody will eventually have it spilled on them.
I agree. This is a lawsuit waiting to happen, and you're doing the boss a favor to insist on safety. There's just no business sense in having somebody work the fryer with the full knowledge that they have epilepsy and might end up dropping a pan of fries in and splashing themselves. You may have to accept some less desirable jobs in exchange for not having to work the fryer (which is, I take it, very undesirable too)...
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Last work day, my manager, although knowing I can't work there, put me at fries. I begged her not to put me there, and she put me there anyway. She said I would only be there for a little while. I did what she told me and worked on fries. For about 20 minutes. And if I would step away to cool off, she would yell at me, even thought I wasn't supposed to be at fries anyway. But I worked at fries for a little longer until I couldn't take it any longer and I begged her to move me. She made me stock things. (I'm not complaining. You don't get hot in a basement.) Then all of a sudden, she wanted to make me do this and that sweep, mop. After I had already done it 20 minutes earlier. She was watching me mop, and she yelled at me for the way I was mopping the floor. Ok. I'll Learn. But she was giving me the crud jobs all of a sudden.
I think she is mad at me because I am unable to work fries even though it is becuase of a medical condition, not because I don't want to. Even today, she was gave me crap jobs. I didn't complain, but she just hasn't acted the same since I told her I won't work fries anymore. And sent me home after I had only been at work for an hour and a half.
She used to be really nice, and I liked her a lot.
I really need to have a job so I can get school credit, but I am tired of this. I don't know if I should look for a new job or not...what do you think?
I know what you mean. I worked as a ramp agent at the airport. I could do everything but the air marshaling (bad at judging distances, ect). I was asked what I'm uncomfortable with and I told them. What do they do? Of course they put me to work doing the one thing I am bad at. Long story short I damaged a plane and got fired. Thing is the manager also got fired when they found out the whole story. I don't understand why NTs try to force the issue.
Your case is far more serious. In fact you could take them to court and sue them for violating ADA. You have a disability that could cause you to seriously injure or kill you at that station, especially considering its the only thing you cant do. Its reasonable to have you do something else. She violated the ADA laws and regulations.