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21 Mar 2009, 4:27 pm

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I have done nothing to intimidate you. I want to help you all survive future Holocaust and create glorious Aspergia Nation. Join me. You shall not fear me. I am your friend.



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21 Mar 2009, 4:34 pm

How are you any different to Hitler or the Ku Klux Clan with your holocaust?


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21 Mar 2009, 4:46 pm

LifeOfTheSpectrum wrote:
How are you any different to Hitler or the Ku Klux Clan with your holocaust?


I suppose that his holocaust is directed at aspies, which would make us the victims rather than the perpetrators.



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21 Mar 2009, 4:53 pm

We're afraid of you because you're worse than Hitler(IMO). You don't want to eradicate(as such) a minority, but the majority.
BTW, may I ask what the symbol is in the top left corner?
Also, I agree Aspies COULD function in a society without NTs, but it'd still be annoying. We all have different sensory issues which could contradict, as such. We also(IMO) have strong views on certain subjects, like religion.
Just because we have a social defect doesn't mean it's going to be some Utopia.
And sorry to get into the details, but when no one wants to socialize, and a lot are asexual, how exactly do you plan on keeping the already minor population from extinction?
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21 Mar 2009, 4:55 pm

Is someone afraid of you?

Should they be? If so, I would advise calling your local mental crisis hotline and explaining that you are a danger to others.

Aspergia seems like a rather childish notion, albeit a combination of the Flynn effect and increasing rates of technological change could explain an uptick in ASD, since it might be necessary to remain childlike far longer in order to cope with ever-changing technologies as you age. This might suggest some sort of selection mechanism at work. If that is the case, I'd look to the past for evidence before painting scenes of a magniloquent future.

First, I'd revisit the Industrial Revolution literature to see if you can identify Aspergian tendencies that crop up earlier in societies at the forefront of the Industrial Revolution. Then take it back to Greco-Roman times and see if those traits were lacking then. Then make it cross-cultural to determine whether those traits (or their absence) is apparent in areas that almost industrialized in pre-modern times, e.g. China, India, or Persia. Second, I'd report back to the rest of us what you have discovered.

Oh bother. Look, I've been all serious.



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21 Mar 2009, 5:00 pm

The amount of Aspergians are growing in number compared to neurotypicals. If current trends continue, we will be 50% of population in just few generations. That is very good news.

But neurotypicals will most likely, at that point or before that, try to annihilate us through Holocaust. I want to defend Aspergians from that. In no way, I wish to annihilate neurotypicals through Holocaust.

They will disappear anyway. Like Neanderthals did.



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21 Mar 2009, 5:00 pm

Zyborg wrote:
I have done nothing to intimidate you. I want to help you all survive future Holocaust and create glorious Aspergia Nation. Join me. You shall not fear me. I am your friend.


I am not afraid of you. I just happen to disagree with the things you say.

Actually, I do perceive genetic tests on fetuses for ASDs as a threat for society. I'm just not as militant as you. And I'd prefer to live in peace in this society, rather than in Aspergia.



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21 Mar 2009, 5:10 pm

If there's an Aspergian society, then wouldn't it exclude NTs? If Aspies do become half the population, won't there be wars over land? Won't one have to be eradicated if we insisted on an Aspergian society?
And I don't think either can be eradicated as such. Isn't it genetic anyway?
http://www.dna-testing-home.com/autisms ... tation/28/
I've not read all of the article, but yeah.
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21 Mar 2009, 5:11 pm

Emor wrote:
If there's an Aspergian society, then wouldn't it exclude NTs? If Aspies do become half the population, won't there be wars over land? Won't one have to be eradicated if we insisted on an Aspergian society?
And I don't think either can be eradicated as such. Isn't it genetic anyway?
http://www.dna-testing-home.com/autisms ... tation/28/
I've not read all of the article, but yeah.
EMZ=]


That is why we need own Nation. Otherwise, it will end like Yugoslavia.



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21 Mar 2009, 5:18 pm

If we had a nation those things would happen.
If we learned to cooperate(like blacks and whites), there wouldn't be any war(I know ethnic origins and neurological/genetic differences are different, but the feelings of one being inferior are similar, in my opinion).
I know it'd probably be hard, but it's possible.
NTs and Aspies would both have flaws if it was 50 50, so we wouldn't be intimidated, and there wouldn't be a holocaust.
We'd all be handicapped.
If anyone was going to do a holocaust I think it'd be the Aspies.
Charities like Autism Speaks aren't really a threat. I think they just want money.
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21 Mar 2009, 5:22 pm

Let me put it plainly: I like NTs. They're odd, they're clannish, they're sometimes just plain evil, but the good outweighs the bad, and they have talents I'll never have, just like I have talents they can use. We were meant to work together. Trying to build some sort of commune will mean the whole world loses. I understand if somebody else wants to retreat; and I sure as heck wouldn't let anybody--AS or NT--abuse anybody else if I could help it; but I personally think this world can be improved. Look at the civil rights movement. Look at the huge, growing, and increasingly accepted Deaf community. If they can do it, so can we. Acceptance and integration is the answer, not militant separatism.


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21 Mar 2009, 6:12 pm

You have rather extreme viewpoints, and I find them to be poorly articulated. I'm not afraid of you, but I don't want to start cynically mocking your position, which I will do if I pay much attention to your threads.



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21 Mar 2009, 7:03 pm

Zyborg wrote:
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I have done nothing to intimidate you. I want to help you all survive future Holocaust and create glorious Aspergia Nation. Join me. You shall not fear me. I am your friend.


What future Holocaust?

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21 Mar 2009, 7:15 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Zyborg wrote:
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I have done nothing to intimidate you. I want to help you all survive future Holocaust and create glorious Aspergia Nation. Join me. You shall not fear me. I am your friend.


What future Holocaust?

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Neurotypicals will try Holocaust to annihilate Aspergian threat to their genes.



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21 Mar 2009, 7:17 pm

Because lightning screws up my fur.



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21 Mar 2009, 7:40 pm

These types of opinions always make me think of Charles Manson, Hitler, Che, and every other would be revolutionary. This type of thought pattern has no place in a modern civilized society. We aren't a race or a nation we are a group of people with similar neural wiring. A Holocaust would not work because the genes for Aspergers would still crop up. So in the end your ranting is futile.


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