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Last edited by Silverlight on 19 Jul 2012, 7:20 am, edited 2 times in total.

Just because you think normalcy is what one should strive for does not nessisarily make it true.....and I am sure if you stick around here you will see plenty of personal experiances of people not being able to learn those things you said we all should be able to...or not being able to reach a 'normal' state of functioning no matter how hard they try.......so don't make the mistake of assuming we can just grow out of autism, for one there is nothing immature about having autism.

Also what gives you the idea that aspergers has no negative effects on people who have it......do you think its fun comming off as a freak as a child and getting picked on just because you where a bit different and could not function the same way as everyone else?

Anyways I will have to disagree.

Maybe I don't want to grow out of my AS. Maybe I like my quirks too much to strive for normalcy. I'd rather be fun and interesting than normal and boring.

The effects of some of the symptoms do lessen with age and maturation in many people with a form of autism. However, many of them later have a breakdown because they can no longer come up with the energy to keep up a false facade. It may well be that yours is mild and thus does not require much energy to fit in, but that is not the experience of everyone on the spectrum. Sure, you can learn things, but they will never become as intuitive as they are to someone who is neurotypical. Most aspies are intelligent people and can learn to read facial expressions, but it takes extra time to process what they are seeing, so the interactions will usually not be as fluid as they would for an NT. Plus, take an aspie or HFA away from their familiar situations and put them under stress for any length of time and they are likely to forget much of what they have learned due to their neuroplasticity.

THIS times a billion. Seriously. Our brains work differently than those of NTs - I don't understand how someone can just "grow out of" that. And why should we?

Exactly. Normal people are scary. They don't seem to think too often and just live off of emotions. I would rather live by logic than feelings any day of the week. That way, I can see through the BS every time a politician tells me he "feels my pain" or is for "hope" or some other emotional buzz word or phrase, whereas an NT might actually believe it and vote for them.

Last edited by outofplace on 16 Jul 2012, 11:59 pm, edited 1 time in total.

I also heard that 10-15% of children who fullfill the diagnostic criterias for AS outgrow it.

Here we have two problems:

1) Not all autistic people will and can outgrow it.

2) Not all autistic people want to reach "normality". You have disadvantages throuw autism, but also very often advantages.

"If the same ‘risk’ genes may lead to both debilitating autism and great intellectual gifts, we need to understand them far better before we label them as unwanted."

Stories of Autism

Yes. Logic is consistent. Feelings, on the other hand...

I believe this: If someone is Autistic/Aspergian and they don't want to outgrow it, they won't - plain and simple. If you revel in your own quirkiness and differences, why would you make an effort to get rid of them?

Last edited by IndieSoul on 17 Jul 2012, 12:00 am, edited 1 time in total.

AS is a lot more than just social difficulties. I think most people acknowledge that you do get better at social things as you get older and you can learn to how to act and become more aware of social cues. But what about sensory sensitivities for one? That's a core autistic issue. They may change as you grow up but you can't learn your way out of them. There are lots of other things that you can't change. The idea that you can become non-autisitc through self awareness is naive.

This. My sensory issues are very minor but they are the same today as when I was a child. I still don't like anything scented and still can't wear coarse fabrics. For someone else who has greater sensitivities than I do ( I assume the majority do), they will be unable to interact because of the shear pain of dealing with every day normal situations like loud noises or being jostled in a crowd. You don't grow your way out of that.

Double this. At first I thought my sensitivity to stimulating public environments could be fixed by exposure to them. Not so. Every time I go out in public, I become overwhelmed. This will not get better because it is due to the way my brain works.

I'm going to have to disagree with you, actually. The sensation of paper on the tips of my fingernails and somebody lightly touching my arm/neck drove me INSANE when I was a child. I also used to have quite the aversion to loud noises. All of these sensitivities no longer exist in me and in fact, not just because I grew out of them, but because I personally learned how to desensitize them. They are all psychological. I love it when my girlfriend lightly touches me, could care less if others do it inadvertently, and I no longer have the issue with paper or loud noises. I also was very mal adept when it came to sport in my younger years.. I ended up going to state for track in my senior year of high school. I think that the idea that you can't become simply 'introverted' (in the sense I discussed) from originally having Aspergers by way of self awareness is naïve. When you diagnose somebody it is not the internal mechanism you are diagnosing.. because... of course, this mechanism has its manifestation in myriad manners(you like that alliteration? I did it, just for you). It is the internal mechanism which is immutable(though modern research sees the brain as plastic so even that isn't entirely true), not the manifestation.

I feel as though I've out-SMARTED many of my symptoms. To me, socialization is just a fun game I like to play, even though it tires me. But then, when I'm done, I reward myself by hiding in my room, watching stuff on my computer, looking up stuff online, playing video games, composing music, etc. Lately, I've gotten back into the Ninja Turtles, and spent an hour reading the new comic books a couple weeks ago. Good times!
I don't expect others to feel the same. If they don't, that's cool. But respect how I go about doing things as well, and I will gladly leave you to do your thing.

Did you/do you have sensory issues?

Apart from being obsessed with a few topics, what other traits did you have?

I am curious if you could go into more detail exactly what you used to have, and exactly what you have "grown out of", how you have done this, and how you know it doesn't affect you anymore?

For me, most of the issues an outsider might observe I have "grown out of" are purely the fact that I have learnt better coping and "faking it" skills. It all still affects me.

I found trying to be normal to be a draining and ultimately harmful experience. My life may have been easier if I were neurotypical, but trying to act like a neurotypical is not easy and makes everything harder than it needs to be because I am putting so much energy into trying to function in a manner that is difficult for me.

It's not about trying or acting, though. It's about actually learning. It's not logical to take something like social intuition and say that it cannot be learned. Anything can be learned.