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03 Apr 2009, 11:22 am

Does anyone else suffer from inertia? I didn't even know there was a word for how I'm feeling until I saw it described as an autistic trait. A lot of the time I struggle to get motivated. It isn't to do with depression, which is under control at the moment. It's more that I just can't get started with anything. I can sit around all day not really getting anything done. The irony is that once I do get into a task I can't stop, especially if it's related to my obsessions. But a lot of the time - especially socially and emotionally - I don't have any get-up-and-go. I can sit with someone and not say a single word as I just don't feel motivated to. It drains me to think about doing it. Just wondered how common this is, especially when it isn't actually associated with a low mood.



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03 Apr 2009, 12:56 pm

I'm like that, too. I've been like this my whole life. I waste a lot of time everyday kinda like pretending (to myself) that I'm doing something relevant. But the truth is that I'm not. I only feel motivated when I'm doing something related to my obsessions (which takes quite a lot of my time everyday but I still end up with several hours left). I feel a bit bad about it because I know that I could be doing something more meaningful and useful, but I don't care too much either because I know that's just the way I am.



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03 Apr 2009, 1:03 pm

Same here. I have a small theory that this is some kind of natural mechanism that balances out the pure hyperfocus bliss that you experience when doing something you like to do.

I don't know if this is the case for you too, but for me this is the worst when I am made to do something I dislike doing. What's worse is that I spend enormous amounts of energy focusing on how much I dislike doing this(!) And with every passing minute, the task seems more daunting.

Sometimes, when I finally get started, it's not too bad (though in my head there's still a small storm raging), but on other times it even takes me hours to get the smallest tasks done :(

This is a very real problem at work; I'm extremely good at what I do, so it becomes more glaring (at least to myself) how incredibly long it takes me to do these boring tasks which should take mere minutes...

Sometimes I'm afraid my boss will notice my slacking off so extremely and get angry. Fortunately this hasn't happened yet!



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03 Apr 2009, 1:29 pm

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Same here. I have a small theory that this is some kind of natural mechanism that balances out the pure hyperfocus bliss that you experience when doing something you like to do.

I don't know if this is the case for you too, but for me this is the worst when I am made to do something I dislike doing. What's worse is that I spend enormous amounts of energy focusing on how much I dislike doing this(!) And with every passing minute, the task seems more daunting.

Sometimes, when I finally get started, it's not too bad (though in my head there's still a small storm raging), but on other times it even takes me hours to get the smallest tasks done :(

This is a very real problem at work; I'm extremely good at what I do, so it becomes more glaring (at least to myself) how incredibly long it takes me to do these boring tasks which should take mere minutes...

Sometimes I'm afraid my boss will notice my slacking off so extremely and get angry. Fortunately this hasn't happened yet!


You described it pretty accurately. That's exactly how I feel and what happens to me, specially the "I spend enormous amounts of energy focusing on how much I dislike doing this" part.



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03 Apr 2009, 1:33 pm

Thanks for your replies. Sjamaan you've described me pretty well too - I really struggle with inertia when I don't want to do something, but like you say it's not usually so bad when I actually get started. It's an interesting thought that the brain tries to cancel out the hyperfocus we experience. I never thought of it like that, but you could well be right. I seem to be either in one state or the other. I can't just do a task, I have to be completely absorbed in it. If I can't reach that state, I don't do it at all.



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03 Apr 2009, 1:52 pm

Yup, I've struggled with indecisiveness and apathy, and I find it hard to get into things but get obsessionally into them to the point I forget to eat for long periods.

I would like to be more productive. I think the issues you mention fit into emotional management and broader self management. And perspective on life.



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03 Apr 2009, 2:05 pm

redplanet wrote:
Does anyone else suffer from inertia? I didn't even know there was a word for how I'm feeling until I saw it described as an autistic trait. A lot of the time I struggle to get motivated. ...


I often had this problem and my way to cope is, as so often, invoking reason: It doesn't make sense to kick myself in my arse to do something not important, but when it comes issues of long term relevance, than it helps with me very much run this through a process of rational assessment and just do it.

As I said, I don't know how well its works with others, but it works with me.



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03 Apr 2009, 2:53 pm

redplanet wrote:
Does anyone else suffer from inertia? I didn't even know there was a word for how I'm feeling until I saw it described as an autistic trait. A lot of the time I struggle to get motivated. It isn't to do with depression, which is under control at the moment. It's more that I just can't get started with anything. I can sit around all day not really getting anything done. The irony is that once I do get into a task I can't stop, especially if it's related to my obsessions. But a lot of the time - especially socially and emotionally - I don't have any get-up-and-go. I can sit with someone and not say a single word as I just don't feel motivated to. It drains me to think about doing it. Just wondered how common this is, especially when it isn't actually associated with a low mood.

I think you are describing "Executive Dysfunction" - http://executivedysfunction.info/ - I notice this myself, when I just can't seem to conceive how to get started.

I believe that Tony Attwood mentions this as being common in people with autistic spectrum disorders.


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03 Apr 2009, 3:02 pm

Thanks for that info zeichner, it does seem to describe me really well! It's nice to know that how I feel has a name. I think I experience most of the diffictulties on that list.



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03 Apr 2009, 3:55 pm

Yes. When it hits, I watch my hand as I make it do what I want it to do.

If I have to put away cothes, for instance, I will force my hand to move. I tis like it is separate.

Other times I just sit and stare or call someone on the phone. With a voice on the other end, sometimes I can do what I ened to do.

It's really bizarre. It is like Brain Lock



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03 Apr 2009, 4:24 pm

I'm just like this. I can't get anything done i don't want to and I end up forgetting homework and things because I'm just not motivated but I can do things I really like that are relevant to my interests and really get into it. It's just other things that I have a hard time with and I feel like I'm forcing myself to do things.
I guess it is executive dysfunction like what zeichner said, and it's quite bad too sometimes.


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03 Apr 2009, 5:56 pm

Same here



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04 Apr 2009, 2:08 am

This is my biggest problem. It creates more problems than any of my other issues, and it's been the most difficult to overcome even slightly.


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04 Apr 2009, 2:36 am

redplanet wrote:
Thanks for your replies. Sjamaan you've described me pretty well too - I really struggle with inertia when I don't want to do something, but like you say it's not usually so bad when I actually get started. It's an interesting thought that the brain tries to cancel out the hyperfocus we experience. I never thought of it like that, but you could well be right. I seem to be either in one state or the other. I can't just do a task, I have to be completely absorbed in it. If I can't reach that state, I don't do it at all.


Yup. That's exactly how it is with me. I'm either on or off. I also can't multitask on projects. If I can't focus on just one thing at a time I can't get any motivation going. I hate interruptions and having to rapidly switch from one thing to the next. Sure I can force myself, but I can't get any positive emotions going that way.

Unfortunately the corporate world expects people to be slave-like drones that rapidly shift focus without having any emotional connection to their activities. Every aspie I've talked to IRL has complained about this aspect of their job. It seems so idiotic to me. Why not just let people focus on the things they are good at?



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04 Apr 2009, 8:55 am

Dussel wrote:
redplanet wrote:
Does anyone else suffer from inertia? I didn't even know there was a word for how I'm feeling until I saw it described as an autistic trait. A lot of the time I struggle to get motivated. ...


I often had this problem and my way to cope is, as so often, invoking reason: It doesn't make sense to kick myself in my arse to do something not important, but when it comes issues of long term relevance, than it helps with me very much run this through a process of rational assessment and just do it.

As I said, I don't know how well its works with others, but it works with me.


I motivate myself in a very similar way - but only very logical reasoning works, and only for important things. The small ones I keep postponing from one day to the next until I'm more or less forced to take care of them. Then it's hard to stop :mrgreen:


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04 Apr 2009, 9:30 am

Yep. I'm pretty much exactly like this and the things everyone has said here are relevant to the point where I don't even have anything unique to contribute to the thread. :?


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