Are bipolar, schizo, dyslexia, low-IQ also non-NT?

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Aspies like to use the term NT to describe non-Aspies, but are others with DSM-IV type issues bipolar, schizo, dyslexia, depression sociopsychopaths, also non-NT?

Yes. The term for people with differently wired brains is "neurodiverse".

The odd fallout of all this is that "NT" may not actually be the majority, but just the largest group of people with the same brain type!

everyone's brain is wired differently

There seems to be a link between autism and schizophrenia, have a look at this blog for inspiration. I'd certainly say that psychopathy and BPD are on the spectrum as well, check out this thread, featuring yours truly.

As for dyslexia, it may be part of the spectrum, but I think that in many cases, it's the result of that evil "look and say" method of teaching reading, which tends to produce poor readers. And bipolar? I've still got to research it, but the Mousetrap blog has some material on it too.

Most of those conditions are said to be part of the autistic spectrum, so I'm not sure they can be described as fully NT. Dyslexia, Dyspraxia, ADHD and the various forms of depression as well as personality disorders are all said to be connected.

But aren't most of these disorders, like bi-polar, typically thought to be caused by chemical imbalances in the brain, rather than atypical neurological structures in the brain? In other words, if that is true, a bipolar person would be, strictly speaking, neuro-typical but chemically atypical.

I don't consider them to be NT because they are also effected and don't function like lot of people. I wonder just how many people are actually NT.

In a real class of twenty 1st-graders, I can think of... 2-3 normal students. One's bit funky.

Half of the class is disordered or impaired or disabled or have a 'different neurology' and the rest got these 'normal' therapies for normal abnormalities that children have these days and several have behavioural issues or emotional issues and stuff.

It's a normal class. Typical for today.

Really good students too and a good class with many qualities.

But if you stop to think about it... wow. What they call normal these days, it's crazy.

That's why there is no such thing as normal. My mother says no one is normal and she also says "What's normal?" and says everyone is normal. Therapists and doctors say everybody has problems.

Normal is a difficult idea, I would say that a NT is a person who does not differ from the average on any of the scales in a way which is statistically significant.

Thus a person with dyslexia is not NT, I would suggest that we only use the NT & non-NT idea for people with or without a neurologicaly difference. A person with a "normal" brain might be depressed becuase of something other than a difference in their brain.

So we could thus say, from one perspective...

AS: Autism Spectrem
AT: ATypical
NT: Neuro-Typical

...?


M.

Normal isn't defined by conditions and differences, but is defined by statisitics as the ~60% that are closest to the mean of all people, everyone else is abnormal.

Yes, those people could all be called atypical.

And "schizo" is, to many of us schizophrenics, a fairly offensive term. In the future, you might want to spell the whole thing out. Just so you know.

how is it offensive?

From what I understand, there is social stigma, the slang usage of the word to describe various mental states, word sensitivity, and the fact that there is a wide spectrum of conditions within the schizoid/schizophrenic scale, just as there is within the autistic spectrum. This is only from conversation with others; I cannot speak for those who experience it themselves.


M.

I heard "Jew" is an offensive word, "ret*d" "ret*d" and of course "n****r." Now that is an offensive word for black people. So maybe that's what "schizo" is. That offensive.