"Lie to me" tv show

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I watched an episode of"lie to me". I would like to say something about it from my perspective. In the episode that I watched, it was stated that when a person makes a statement, and then touches their face or their neck, that is considerd to be a sign they are lieing. I will touch my face or sometimes even cover my face, out of nervousness even after I have said something that is true. As I watch this show I think I will see other signs of lieing I bet I do just out of nervousness.

wow, I watch that show too! I also notice that I could probably lie my head off to those guy and they would never know it, cause my face would not change even for a MICRO second! I was also noticing that if they THINK we are lying because we are unconsciously touching here or rubbing there when we are not lying then we would knock all their much vaunted science into a cocked hat!

Merle

I am an amazing liar.
Half the time I don't even know when I'm telling the truth.

I keep seeing ads for that show on TV, but it's not on yet.
I told my mum as we were watching the add that my facial expression doesn't change, so it's hard to tell if I'm lying or not. She then said autistic people don't know how to lie. I smirked and said 'oh but I do.'

of course it assumes the liar is an nt..

I noticed something that was kind of interesting a couple months ago. I was asked a lot of questions, and touched my nose after like each statement. The "Body Language experts" would have said I was OBVIOUSLY lying! Every word I said was the TRUTH!

Although I don't believe I did it directly because of it THEN, I HAVE often done it because I often have the sniffles! I ALSO touch my cheek to see if I need a shave, the top part of my nose to adjust my glasses, etc..., and similar things.

Body language is not "science." Even among NTs, it's just superstition that has turned into a conscious, organized religion lately. You can't "read" body language. You can't really know what someone is thinking until he says or does something.

Some things are a good clue, but you can't rely on it. NTs misread each other all the time and get into stupid arguments that have no relationship to reality.

Even when people honestly want to communicate, they misread each other constantly. Someone who is trying to lie will do whatever he can to make it convincing. If he knows the popular modern gestures (if he watches a lot of mass media) he'll add them to the mix...

I watch very little TV, because it's all crap. My son (age 17) hasn't watched anything at all in years, and I'm sure his mannerisms are like a foreigner to people who are hooked on the stuff.

No one can read minds. Some people are just deluded and want to believe that they can.

I am a very competant liar. My dad says ASDers are very hinest, and in the sense he means it it is fairly true. He basicly means we have a good sense of right and wrong, and only really seek to do what's right.

Non-NTs are different that way...I just act nervous *all* the time...

Wow, that's some big talk.

Have you ever been interrogated by an expert?

Same here....I'm virtually incapable of lying, but get so flustered when accused of doing so that anyone, even if they were deaf, dumb, and blind, would think I was not only lying, but lying BADLY. If I'm uncomfortable with a person or situation, I'll avoid eye contact and tic like a madwoman, regardless of what the topic of conversation might be.

In your case, RD, how could anyone tell your truths from your lies?

No, seriously.

When I hear the word "expert," I think "ego." They like to pretend they know all sorts of things, when they simply do not.
But the main thing is that most people are not "experts" and this superstition makes them think that they are. Life was hard enough with the mindless drones, going on simple impulse power. Now we're moving at warp-9 in the direction of pure insanity.

I don't think I have any observable ticks (except the eye-contact thing and blank expression) but if I get the idea. When I realize that I'm dealing with a jerk, I quit trying. Especially with hubby, when he gets that stupid, paranoid look that tells me I don't want to know what he thinks he's accusing me of, and I couldn't guess in a million years because it's just his demons telling him crazy sh**... If he hasn't figured out in 22 years that I'm the most honest person he has ever known, then there's no point in talking to him at all any more. (Stupid bas****... mumble, grumble...)

MAYBE THEY CAN'T. Maybe they could just take my word for it, unless they have a REASON to believe otherwise. And the superstitious nonsense from these supposed "experts" and other psychotic sources of information are not REASONs.

Does hubby know you have this much contempt for him?

Yes.

(It all fell apart last August. We just can't do anything about it because of money. Now it's just me and the couch. I'm sure his demons are telling him it's going to get better. I don't argue with them any more. It makes life so much more pleasant.)

I'm interested to see this programme (it's the one with Tim Roth, isn't it?). I hope it gets shown over in the UK.

I was just reading Derren Brown's book Tricks of the Mind. He's a magician/mindreader/psychological illusionist and all around amazing performer. There is a chapter in his book on how he reads body language and how to look for tells and signs of lying. He quotes a statistic that police officers do no better in spotting a lie than students, both getting it right only about 55% of the time - so only slightly better than guessing. Secret Service bods, on the other hand, apparently do a lot better!

It's not that touching your cheek or your nose automatically equals "lie", but it's the changes in behaviour that are significant. So if you are a cheek toucher normally, you may stop doing this if you are lying. That is what he looks for when he is able to spot a lie, or even when someone just thinks a lie. He's awesome.

I would be intrigued to see him try these techniques on someone with an ASD.