Complete inability to focus! I'm like a potato or something.

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06 May 2009, 10:43 am

But... mostly not in the traditional sense... My attention span isn't 'that' short, though much shorter than the average person, but I can live with it.

My lack of focus truly shows when I want to make a decision, even if it's a tiny one.

My brain simply stops functioning... I'm doing something else.. I'm emotionally involved in what it is I'm doing.. I am unable to spare any bit of focus or energy for making the decision that I must make... If I try to force myself, it usually has a disastrous ending. I'm basically a slave to my subconscious.

This has effected every single aspect of my life. I can't keep a job.. Can't study.. Can't live.. Can't keep any healthy habits at all... My mind is far too unfocused for me to gather enough energy to do the right thing. Even when I'm lucky enough to be able make a decision, it's only a matter of minutes before my mind wanders off to something else, and I'm unable to follow up.

Feels like my brain is hyper active. It's impossible for me to control it.

There was one medication that helped me miraculously, and that was Adderall. I tried other ADHD medications, but non of them worked. Unfortunately Adderall is not available where I currently live.

I've seen and conversed with people with ADHD, and they're not like me at all.. What is it that I suffer from then? Probably a combination of Asperger's and ADHD, or something weirder. I don't know.

Wanted to share. Thanks in advance.



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06 May 2009, 10:47 am

Sounds like Asperger's combined with ADHD. You have ADHD but your Asperger's can be seen in how you get mentally hung up on desicions. The reason people with ADHD seem so different is because you're seeing them through the eyes of an aspie. As you become more aware it will start to make more sense.

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06 May 2009, 10:59 am

I can't relate to what you wrote so far, but that's not saying much. Could be the wording or so.

I have ADHD + ASD.

I for one have all the energy in the world to decide (metaphorically speaking) ten thousand things at a time.

That's the hyperactivity and impulsivity part of ADHD for me. I want to do everything at once, because I see this and that and hear another few things and... there's countless around me that I see and decide I want/need to do at once.

I am lacking the typically 'day-dreaming' and being lost in thought of ADD (the inattentive type that's missing hyperactivity and physical impulsivity).


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06 May 2009, 11:33 am

Basically the opposite of what I am.. It's strange.. As if I'm trapped inside my own mind. My brain is hyperactive, but in a passive sort of way. It's so difficult to make a conscious decision against my subconscious.



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06 May 2009, 11:52 am

Qi wrote:
Basically the opposite of what I am.. It's strange.. As if I'm trapped inside my own mind. My brain is hyperactive, but in a passive sort of way. It's so difficult to make a conscious decision against my subconscious.


Then you might have the inattentive ADD maybe if you have some form of ADHD too?

Some with ADD say that they feel hyperactive but it doesn't show/that they don't act hyperactive but it is there in their thoughts, leading to that they're lost in countless of thoughts which results in that they struggle to pull themselves together to get things done. I know several good sites in German, but not in English.

These key words from Wikipedia reflect what most inattentive ADHD/ADD is looking to the outside observer though:

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ADHD-I is different from the other subtypes of ADHD in that it is characterized primarily by inattention, easy distractibility, disorganization, procrastination, forgetfulness, and lethargy (fatigue), but with less or none of the symptoms of hyperactivity or impulsiveness typical of the other ADHD subtypes. [...]


Hyperactivity is usually only understood as hyperactive outward behaviour.

I have the impression ADD and ADHD can be opposites, though results are pretty much the same.


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06 May 2009, 1:26 pm

WELCOME TO THE "lost and found, and lost and found again, and again and again and so on" CLUB :cheers:

Hi there!

I understand completely what you mean!

I have ADHD combined type (periods of short attention span, and periods of hyperfocusing).

I have undiagnosed AS and I think dyspraxia (DCD) as well, since i already posted a lot about this triad AS-AD(H)D-DCD (=DAMP) in another forum i'll just quote what i wrote.

People like us tends to feel even more mentally disabled than other AD(H)Ders or Aspies, for us the world is so confusing that we feel overwhelmed by it.

I survive all the frustration trying to understand everything, by accepting that I'm not as fast as I should be, giving my mind the time it needs to make desicions or understand situations and laughing as much as I can for example of those embaracing misfortunated situations I get my self into by not making right decisions.

I do have to recognize that the ADHD medicine helps me a lot! without it I would be almost completely lost to even be able to focuse enough to see the good side of the situation. But the ADHD coaching has helped me a lot teaching me how to organize my ideas, thoughts and feelings in schemas so I can understand better the situations around me and inside me to not feel that lost any more with or without medicine.

Have you tried other ADHD medicine available in your region?

Good luck in your journey!



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Hi!

Well, for me AD(H)D, dispraxia, AS, tourette's and other comorbid conditions are basicly the same (brain malfunctioning) but manifested diferently.

What you talk about seems to me to be more like dyspraxia (also called DCD=Developmental Coordination Disorder), a motorical problem related to (as everything else) the coordination among the two frontal lobes.

The comorbidity AD(H)D with AS or DCD is named DAMP = Deficits in Attention, Motor Control and Perception.

Since most of the symptoms that AD(H)D and DCD don't have in common fit in the criteria for AS (and viceverse, the symptoms that AD(H)D and AS don't have in common fit in the DCD criteria, and the ones that AS and DCD don't share fit in the ADD criteria), it wouldn't surprise me that you feel identify with AS.

to read more: dyspraxia foundation uk symptoms


What defines wich condition you have is the level of impairment related to the deepness of the main sympthoms of each. So, I can't contain myself to yell a bad word everytime I screw something wherever I am, but it doesn't impairs me to the point I'm considered to have tourette's and I'm more considered to be an impulsive ADHDer.

.... to read more click here: Do you ever wonder if...


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06 May 2009, 3:36 pm

I have AS and multiple types of ADHD, and I can relate to you entirely. It is extremely hard to explain to people how my brain works and it sounds like ours work in the same way. While I know it sucks to be going through that, as it does suck badly for me, at the same time I am glad to finally see someone with the exact same problem.



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06 May 2009, 5:22 pm

Sora wrote:
Qi wrote:
I know several good sites in German, but not in English.


he might try a website translation utility


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06 May 2009, 5:41 pm

sbcmetroguy wrote:
While I know it sucks to be going through that, as it does suck badly for me, at the same time I am glad to finally see someone with the exact same problem.


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06 May 2009, 5:54 pm

Qi wrote:
My brain simply stops functioning... I'm doing something else.. I'm emotionally involved in what it is I'm doing.. I am unable to spare any bit of focus or energy for making the decision that I must make... If I try to force myself, it usually has a disastrous ending. I'm basically a slave to my subconscious.

This has effected every single aspect of my life. I can't keep a job.. Can't study..


I can get much the same. It varies greatly, usually I keep it under control, although it has certainly dominated my life for as much as eight months at a time. I find human contact can help, sort of moves yourself out of your world of your obsessive thought process into a more varied world. Also, psychologically preparing yourself, if you know something else has to come up, it is so much easier to change your thoughts towards that.

All that said, this is arguably the worst part of AS, not lack of social skills as commonly presumed.



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06 May 2009, 6:27 pm

I relate...as one with an ASD and ADHD indicators.

However, i see myself more as a turnip...or possibly a root artichoke or sweet potato.



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06 May 2009, 8:42 pm

Qi wrote:
But... mostly not in the traditional sense... My attention span isn't 'that' short, though much shorter than the average person, but I can live with it.

My lack of focus truly shows when I want to make a decision, even if it's a tiny one.

My brain simply stops functioning... I'm doing something else.. I'm emotionally involved in what it is I'm doing.. I am unable to spare any bit of focus or energy for making the decision that I must make... If I try to force myself, it usually has a disastrous ending. I'm basically a slave to my subconscious.

This has effected every single aspect of my life. I can't keep a job.. Can't study.. Can't live.. Can't keep any healthy habits at all... My mind is far too unfocused for me to gather enough energy to do the right thing. Even when I'm lucky enough to be able make a decision, it's only a matter of minutes before my mind wanders off to something else, and I'm unable to follow up.

Feels like my brain is hyper active. It's impossible for me to control it.

There was one medication that helped me miraculously, and that was Adderall. I tried other ADHD medications, but non of them worked. Unfortunately Adderall is not available where I currently live.

I've seen and conversed with people with ADHD, and they're not like me at all.. What is it that I suffer from then? Probably a combination of Asperger's and ADHD, or something weirder. I don't know.

Wanted to share. Thanks in advance.


Wow! You have put into words what I have felt all my life. At least all of my adult life, once people started actually expecting things of me. It's a huge problem, and the older I get, the worse I feel about myself, because I can no longer say, "Well, everyone else is a bit older; maybe they've learned something that I haven't" . I've never considered ADHD, because I'm the least hyper person on the planet. There are turnips that are more hyper than me. The ADHD-I Wiki quote from Sora was an eye-opener. That describes me a lot. I also have social difficulties, but perhaps a lot of that stems from the fact that I have such a hard time relating to other people, who seem to be a completely different species.

So...you've given me some food for thought. Not that I have the money to seek a diagnosis. I'm a self-diagnosed "probable aspie" at the moment, although I don't share that information with anyone, so it hardly matters.