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07 Jun 2015, 7:48 pm

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Supposedly the Italian government will not let anyone visit the island, but that does not explain the photos........

The ghosts took them.


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07 Jun 2015, 8:07 pm

LOL!

After further reading, the man who bought the lease on the island was going to turn it into a centre for research into eating disorders (or digestive disorders, my Italian is a little shaky here). There is some ongoing legal issue, so at the moment as far as I can tell he has renounced his claim to the island.


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08 Jun 2015, 10:40 am

Personally, I believe that for all the suffering that happened there, those hundreds of bodies/skeletons/victims should be left to rest in peace.


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14 Jun 2015, 9:33 am

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Skilpadde, this picture shows a typical Norwegian fjord with a small village and beautiful scenery. Those places are interesting to visit, but what are they like to live in? Mountains on all four sides, the sun rising 1-2 hours later and setting 1-2 hours earlier than without them. Doesn't one get an oppressive feeling from being squeezed in the tiny space around oneself?



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14 Jun 2015, 10:45 am

Hmm, I think one would get a similar feeling from being in one of the south facing Drakensberg valleys here, except that no-one lives there; they just hike there. Many of the south facing gullies in the 'Berg are choked with ice most of the winter long, and seldom see the sun.

I must confess that the fjords are beautiful!


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14 Jun 2015, 11:02 am

One doesn't really come to think there's almost permanent ice at places in South Africa. Strange.



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14 Jun 2015, 7:32 pm

Wow, Norway is so beautiful.

I'm looking forward to Skilpadde's reply, but I would guess you are right Krabo, it would be cold and dark in those valleys a lot of the time in winter.

One Norwegian town came up with a solution for that though:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/n ... wn-mirrors


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15 Jun 2015, 2:38 am

^ I remember that made the news some years ago. IDK what it’s like to live there, but I’m sure glad there are no plans for anything like that here! I’m not bothered by the dark winter, and I think the resources could have been far better spent.

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Skilpadde, this picture shows a typical Norwegian fjord with a small village and beautiful scenery. Those places are interesting to visit, but what are they like to live in? Mountains on all four sides, the sun rising 1-2 hours later and setting 1-2 hours earlier than without them. Doesn't one get an oppressive feeling from being squeezed in the tiny space around oneself?

I really wouldn’t know, as I’ve never lived in a place like that. Oslofjorden is the closest fjord, and it’s not surrounded by mountains. The closest I get is when I visited my grandmother in northern Norway, there was a small mountainous hill on one side and tight residential areas on two other and downhill lake on the fourth side. I didn’t like having neighbors so close, but I was absolutely fine with the natural ‘obstacles’.
It might sound strange about the neighbors, seeing as I've always lived in flats, but that's different. I don't see in their windows then, like I could there (and they could).

From what I gather it’s pretty quiet (which is good), and some people (especially youngsters) feel there is little to do there; that will be the same in any small place though. I would hate the parts that are common for all small places (everyone knows everyone, even less tolerance for difference, hard to get diversity in merchandise, long way to most things).

Personally I wouldn’t be troubled by there being less light, it’s actually one of very few things I like about winter. I guess it would be hard for someone suffering from season affective disorder.
The cold would be worse in winter, which wouldn’t be any good, and my mother has said that small valleys surrounded by mountains can get really hot in summer. It becomes like a giant pot, with little wind. I hate heat, so that would be terrible. Until she said that, I actually thought it would make it less warm in summer. :oops:
Edit: Come to think of it, we actually see something similar here. I remember hearing about it on the news, in connection with smog and other air pollution, especially in winter, when those of us with asthma are encouraged to stay inside.
There have also been times when a higher and thus colder place nearby has had zero C, and it's been -10 C here...

There are natural dangers that come with living there, like the danger of rockslides and landslides, and even tsunamis. In 1934 a part of the mountain slid into the ocean and created flood waves as high as 64 meters. They were still about 16 meters when they reached land, and 40 people were killed. Wikipedia only has Norwegian and Swedish pages about it. http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tafjord-ulykka
Slides happen somewhat frequently, and there are complaints from people living there that too little is done to secure the areas. Another good question might be how much resources should be used to keep such small places going. Maybe people should be encouraged to live in areas that are less likely to be hit by natural disasters. That’s not possible everywhere, but it is here. So far.


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15 Jun 2015, 3:11 am

Moomingirl wrote:
And here's a sppoky story and lots of pics from someone staying overnight on the island:
http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-up ... 6938420654

I forgot to thank you for that link. It was an interesting read :)


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15 Jun 2015, 4:12 am

Thank you Skilpadde for your detailed reply.



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15 Jun 2015, 9:44 am

Wanna fjord.

Wanna River.

Maybe some snow would be nice; I was just outside pruning, and the temperature is warm already, before 7

A.M......gonna be nasty hot today.....ugh.


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15 Jun 2015, 10:31 am

Wanna live in Bergen where it rains 300 days a year?

http://www.traveladventures.org/contine ... ergen.html



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15 Jun 2015, 10:43 am

Could they please send some of that over here to Southern California?

Please?


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15 Jun 2015, 10:49 am

Ask Skilpadde. She's the shop steward.



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15 Jun 2015, 2:54 pm

Perhaps she could send over some (quite a few, actually) storm clouds, to save on shipping?

Or snow.....it would melt before it hits the ground, and we would have some nice, COLD rain!

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15 Jun 2015, 11:59 pm

Think twice.

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