sorry there was a gap here with posting, i was watching the door to door (spacific religion discussed in another forum) was doign their pushy every 3 month thing, and saying no and signage, hiding, acting deaf (even vocallizing like deaf dont work my method is using old prop, for me thats offering them if they would like to have me go to them and teach door hardware and maintenance(and hold up an old closer) when tehy come knocking
works pretty well, they went around today, i had an old traditional style closer (made in 1952 and resembles them old meat grinders, old churches and schools have them on their doors)
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