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14 Jul 2010, 8:16 am

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here's a clue: it's not 697,697


I'm gonna guess 697,697. You're probably saying that so we don't guess the right thing!! !



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14 Jul 2010, 10:08 am

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Aw man, I kinda forgot how to program. You can easily make a loop and just include commas.


You mean there was a quicker way than typing them all in?! !! Do you realise how much time I spent keying all those numbers in? :evil:

I'm guessing you never programmed before?



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14 Jul 2010, 11:03 am

jc6chan wrote:
TallyMan wrote:
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Aw man, I kinda forgot how to program. You can easily make a loop and just include commas.


You mean there was a quicker way than typing them all in?! !! Do you realise how much time I spent keying all those numbers in? :evil:

I'm guessing you never programmed before?


TallyMan and programming is like any of the bovidae family and ballet. :P :lol: :wink:



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14 Jul 2010, 11:15 am

Booyakasha wrote:
jc6chan wrote:
TallyMan wrote:
jc6chan wrote:
Aw man, I kinda forgot how to program. You can easily make a loop and just include commas.


You mean there was a quicker way than typing them all in?! !! Do you realise how much time I spent keying all those numbers in? :evil:

I'm guessing you never programmed before?


TallyMan and programming is like any of the bovidae family and ballet. :P :lol: :wink:


Why thank you Booyakasha. :lol:

I like your avatar and sig line bye the way :wink:


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14 Jul 2010, 11:49 am

TallyMan wrote:
Booyakasha wrote:
jc6chan wrote:
TallyMan wrote:
jc6chan wrote:
Aw man, I kinda forgot how to program. You can easily make a loop and just include commas.


You mean there was a quicker way than typing them all in?! !! Do you realise how much time I spent keying all those numbers in? :evil:

I'm guessing you never programmed before?


TallyMan and programming is like any of the bovidae family and ballet. :P :lol: :wink:


Why thank you Booyakasha. :lol:

I like your avatar and sig line bye the way :wink:


I insist that yours is better. :wink:



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14 Jul 2010, 12:04 pm

jc6chan wrote:
TallyMan wrote:
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Aw man, I kinda forgot how to program. You can easily make a loop and just include commas.


You mean there was a quicker way than typing them all in?! !! Do you realise how much time I spent keying all those numbers in? :evil:

I'm guessing you never programmed before?


No? Is it difficult? :wink:


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14 Jul 2010, 6:51 pm

Two Hundred Thousand aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand...
Two!


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15 Jul 2010, 4:13 am

b9 wrote:
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nobody has guessed it yet. it's between 200,000 and 750,000

here's a clue: it's not 697,697


is it a random number you picked without any consideration? or is it a number that can be deduced (however cryptically) from the "clue" that it is not 697697?

i have spent a few minutes trying to calculate what the number may be, and some of my resistors are getting very hot. 697697 is not a prime number or a number to the power of 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 or 6 or 7.
it is not in the fibonacci sequence and it is not derivable using any trigonometric applications using integer number arguments

i have tried to derive a number from permutations of 82 and 2005 and 21 (in your avatar info) that is approximal to, or an anagram (ananumeral?) of 697697.

is this a number that can be guessed using thought power? or is it a random number that is just a seed for a very long thread where people post random numbers?


Well it's not entirely a random number, so I'll give you another clue

It's not 543,217



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15 Jul 2010, 8:14 am

mjs82 wrote:
b9 wrote:
mjs82 wrote:
nobody has guessed it yet. it's between 200,000 and 750,000

here's a clue: it's not 697,697


is it a random number you picked without any consideration? or is it a number that can be deduced (however cryptically) from the "clue" that it is not 697697?

i have spent a few minutes trying to calculate what the number may be, and some of my resistors are getting very hot. 697697 is not a prime number or a number to the power of 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 or 6 or 7.
it is not in the fibonacci sequence and it is not derivable using any trigonometric applications using integer number arguments

i have tried to derive a number from permutations of 82 and 2005 and 21 (in your avatar info) that is approximal to, or an anagram (ananumeral?) of 697697.

is this a number that can be guessed using thought power? or is it a random number that is just a seed for a very long thread where people post random numbers?


Well it's not entirely a random number, so I'll give you another clue

It's not 543,217


if it is not entirely random, then it must be partially random, and that is not possible.
either it is random or it is not.......unless it is a function applied to a random seed, and then it is out of my scope to try to work out what number it is. any element of randomnity involved in the process excludes me from solving it. i have no clairvoyant modules installed.

given your second clue, i may guess that the number is 654,323, however i can not see any correlation between the first clue and second clue to help me determine the formula for exclusions of possibilities.
another clue is necessary for my simple circuitry to work further toward the answer.



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17 Jul 2010, 4:49 am

b9 wrote:
mjs82 wrote:
b9 wrote:
mjs82 wrote:
nobody has guessed it yet. it's between 200,000 and 750,000

here's a clue: it's not 697,697


is it a random number you picked without any consideration? or is it a number that can be deduced (however cryptically) from the "clue" that it is not 697697?

i have spent a few minutes trying to calculate what the number may be, and some of my resistors are getting very hot. 697697 is not a prime number or a number to the power of 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 or 6 or 7.
it is not in the fibonacci sequence and it is not derivable using any trigonometric applications using integer number arguments

i have tried to derive a number from permutations of 82 and 2005 and 21 (in your avatar info) that is approximal to, or an anagram (ananumeral?) of 697697.

is this a number that can be guessed using thought power? or is it a random number that is just a seed for a very long thread where people post random numbers?


Third clue: it's not 473,101

Well it's not entirely a random number, so I'll give you another clue

It's not 543,217


if it is not entirely random, then it must be partially random, and that is not possible.
either it is random or it is not.......unless it is a function applied to a random seed, and then it is out of my scope to try to work out what number it is. any element of randomnity involved in the process excludes me from solving it. i have no clairvoyant modules installed.

given your second clue, i may guess that the number is 654,323, however i can not see any correlation between the first clue and second clue to help me determine the formula for exclusions of possibilities.
another clue is necessary for my simple circuitry to work further toward the answer.



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17 Jul 2010, 7:12 am

mjs82 wrote:
nobody has guessed it yet. it's between 200,000 and 750,000

here's a clue: it's not 697,697


then i asked if it was random and got the answer:

mjs82 wrote:
Well it's not entirely a random number, so I'll give you another clue. It's not 543,217


that number is a prime number. since your first clue was <>697697, i wondered whether you considered that clue too elusive since it was not a prime number, so i did not count it as a real clue. so i said

b9 wrote:
given your second clue, i may guess that the number is 654,323

that is another prime number following a vague but incomplete rule that i saw in your clue <>543217.

the rule was that 5,4,3,2,1 is a descending sequence of numerals with the 7 ignored.
so i chose 6,5,4,3,2 which is a descending sequence and ignored the 3 (654323 is also prime).
it is the only other prime number in the area between 250000 and 750000 that can satisfy this incomplete rule.
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Third clue: it's not 473,101


that is also a prime number, however it does not follow the rule i gleaned from your second clue (obviously since there are only 2 primes between 250000 and 750000 that do).

i noted that your first clue in the 1-1000 question was <>697.
6+9+7=22, and i saw a correlation between that and your second clue in the 250000-750000 question that was <> 543217.
5+4+3+2+1+7=22, so i started working on that and now i see your 3rd clue adds to 16.

are these clues real clues that facilitate solving what number you are thinking of, or just ill thought out non relative exclusions?

there is nothing special about the 2 primes that you gave as clues.

i could write a program that writes a text file with all primes between 250000 and 750000 and paste it here i guess. i can not post all numbers between 250000 and 750000 (like tallymans program that listed all the numbers from 1-100000 (which covered 1/10th of the range)), because it would be 3.3mb of text (3.85 including commas)and i would probably get into trouble. maybe it is not a prime number at all, but it is just an extreme coincidence that your last 2 clues were prime.

another relevant clue please? even the decipherers of the enigma code had volumes of data to analyze.
i hope this is not a wild goose chase!



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22 Jul 2010, 6:21 am

It's an even number and when you add its inverse to itself you get fibonacci number