Page 583 of 652 [ 10427 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 580, 581, 582, 583, 584, 585, 586 ... 652  Next

DeepHour
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 1 Jun 2014
Gender: Male
Posts: 84,512
Location: United Kingdom

14 Aug 2022, 2:39 pm

In the UK, a number of people have recently been reported to the police for tweets or social media posts that caused 'hurt feelings', and these people have then been visited by police officers in order to 'have their thinking checked'. Isn't that perilously close to having a 'thought police'? Have you read Orwell's 1984?


_________________
On a mountain range
I'm Doctor Strange


TwilightPrincess
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 28 Sep 2016
Age: 40
Gender: Female
Posts: 30,256
Location: Hell

14 Aug 2022, 2:45 pm

What makes you think that I haven’t read it? Why can’t people just avoid tweeting hate speech? Isn’t hate speech a crime depending on its severity in the UK or do you consider that a thought crime as well? Don’t you think that we should be encouraging respect and tolerance towards minority groups?



DeepHour
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 1 Jun 2014
Gender: Male
Posts: 84,512
Location: United Kingdom

14 Aug 2022, 2:48 pm

This 'hate speech' business is right at the heart of it, isn't it? Do you believe that the expression of socially conservative views is now hate speech? Or having the 'wrong' perspective on climate change?


_________________
On a mountain range
I'm Doctor Strange


TwilightPrincess
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 28 Sep 2016
Age: 40
Gender: Female
Posts: 30,256
Location: Hell

14 Aug 2022, 2:54 pm

Why would climate change be considered hate speech? Isn’t hate speech, technically, expressions of hatred towards people, especially that which involves people’s sex, gender, race, religion, or sexual orientation?



DeepHour
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 1 Jun 2014
Gender: Male
Posts: 84,512
Location: United Kingdom

14 Aug 2022, 3:09 pm

I agree with virtually all of that! Did you know however that on a climate change demonstration in the UK a few months ago, many of the protesters were holding up placards denouncing 'climate hate speech' (I think they meant that climate change scepticism was hate speech)?


_________________
On a mountain range
I'm Doctor Strange


Where_am_I
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 28 Apr 2019
Gender: Female
Posts: 6,392
Location: London

14 Aug 2022, 3:10 pm

Why don't we have more people like Twilightprincess on WP? :)


_________________
"A loaded gun won't set you free. So you say." - Ian Curtis


DeepHour
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 1 Jun 2014
Gender: Male
Posts: 84,512
Location: United Kingdom

14 Aug 2022, 3:11 pm

Do you also want fewer people like me?

:wink:


_________________
On a mountain range
I'm Doctor Strange


Where_am_I
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 28 Apr 2019
Gender: Female
Posts: 6,392
Location: London

14 Aug 2022, 3:15 pm

Why would you think that? :P


_________________
"A loaded gun won't set you free. So you say." - Ian Curtis


Cornflake
Administrator
Administrator

User avatar

Joined: 30 Oct 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 69,544
Location: Over there

14 Aug 2022, 4:08 pm

What ho - anyone for tennith?


_________________
Giraffe: a ruminant with a view.


kraftiekortie
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 4 Feb 2014
Gender: Male
Posts: 87,510
Location: Queens, NYC

14 Aug 2022, 5:22 pm

If I said I don’t believe in climate change (though I do!), do you believe I should be visited by police just for expressing that view?

Don’t you believe this would set a bad precedent? Could it be that police could, using that logic, visit people who are atheists?



Where_am_I
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 28 Apr 2019
Gender: Female
Posts: 6,392
Location: London

14 Aug 2022, 5:26 pm

Shall we send Kraftie back to PPR?


_________________
"A loaded gun won't set you free. So you say." - Ian Curtis


DeepHour
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 1 Jun 2014
Gender: Male
Posts: 84,512
Location: United Kingdom

14 Aug 2022, 5:29 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
If I said I don’t believe in climate change (though I do!), do you believe I should be visited by police just for expressing that view?

Don’t you believe this would set a bad precedent? Could it be that police could, using that logic, visit people who are atheists?


you wouldn't (yet) get a visit from HM constabulary for that, but if someone reported your comment to the police as offensive, then you could well receive a visit to 'check your thinking'. My understanding of the situation is that it would be recorded as a 'non-crime hate incident' or something of the sort. At least one organization in the Hate Speech industry now classes climate change scepticism as 'hate speech'. This is how crazy the whole business has become.

Oh, this is the questions thread! How are you, kraftiekortie?

:)


_________________
On a mountain range
I'm Doctor Strange


Where_am_I
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 28 Apr 2019
Gender: Female
Posts: 6,392
Location: London

14 Aug 2022, 5:34 pm

Is he hiding from us?


_________________
"A loaded gun won't set you free. So you say." - Ian Curtis


DeepHour
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 1 Jun 2014
Gender: Male
Posts: 84,512
Location: United Kingdom

14 Aug 2022, 5:42 pm

At least you're still here, so things aren't that bad, are they?


_________________
On a mountain range
I'm Doctor Strange


kraftiekortie
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 4 Feb 2014
Gender: Male
Posts: 87,510
Location: Queens, NYC

14 Aug 2022, 5:54 pm

Do you know that I’m okay, Deep Hour?

Do you know that I’m NOT hiding, and that I appreciate that question?



TwilightPrincess
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 28 Sep 2016
Age: 40
Gender: Female
Posts: 30,256
Location: Hell

14 Aug 2022, 6:27 pm

Quote:
If I said I don’t believe in climate change (though I do!), do you believe I should be visited by police just for expressing that view?

Don’t you believe this would set a bad precedent? Could it be that police could, using that logic, visit people who are atheists?


Who, in this thread, has implied that people should be sent to prison for saying that climate change isn’t real? Seriously, where was that stated?

Wasn’t the main issue about people using hate speech towards individuals who are LGBT+? Why would anyone think that it’s okay to engage in bullying unless they were bullies themselves?

Aren’t laws regarding hate speech important?