1st Edition AD&D Alignment Calculator
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Chaotic Neutral
25 chaos, 5 evil and 10 balance
"Easy come, easy go ... little high, little low ...
any way the wind blows, doesn't really matter to me"
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-- QUEEN, Bohemian Rhapsody
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With regards to Law and Chaos, you are Chaotic
With regards to Good and Evil, you are Neutral
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Chaotic Neutral people live for the moment. They thrive on randomness and chance. Chance is what gives life meaning, because life is only worth living if there's a chance of losing it. Chaotic Neutral is an alignment of dogged individualists, and no two are quite alike. They are very cynical of law and order, believing that everyone should have the freedom to be whatever they wish, regardless of whether they choose to do good or evil. In fact concepts like "good" or "evil" are basically irrelevant to Chaotic Neutrals. This alignment does not care about morality or justice. Personal freedom is the only thing worth fighting for -- all other causes are ultimately false. They oppose tradition, religion, political affiliation, or anything else that might limit or restrict their behavior. In this alignment, there are no groups, only individuals. They are anarchists merely for the sake of anarchy itself, like the proverbial "rebel without a cause." This is the alignment most prone to suicide and self-destruction ... when living becomes too painful to endure, to die is a blessed relief. In the words of Edgar Allan Poe, they are the ones "to whom life and death are equally jests ..."
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Chaotic Neutral is the most mercurial and unpredictable of the alignments. Like the wind, it can change direction at a moment's notice depending on its current mood. Many Chaotic Neutrals have a difficult time caring about anyone or anything for very long. They change sides as easily as they change clothes, and relying on them is dangerous because a Chaotic Neutral can turn on you at a moment's notice ... although to be fair, they're all different, so some are more trustworthy than others. They don't place a high value on life, and might gamble with their own lives just for a thrill. A troubled teen on a death trip is a good example of Chaotic Neutral. So is a hopeless junkie, a compulsive gambler, a burglar that shoots first and thinks later, or anyone else that ignores long-term consequences for immediate gratification. They can be anything from empty-headed thrill seekers to brilliant existential philosophers -- the only thing they all have in common is their contempt for The System and for society in general. Their often overwhelming apathy tends to be their only real comfort. For Chaotic Neutral, "the future's uncertain and the end is always near ..."
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Quick Scoring Guide
chaos scores of 8 to 19 : rather chaotic
chaos of 20 to 29 : very chaotic
chaos of 30 & up : crazy
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Your polar opposite is : Lawful Neutral
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Fictional Examples of CHAOTIC NEUTRAL
Johnny Boy (Mean Streets) ... Jordan Hawley (Fools Die) ... Jessie the car thief (Breathless) ... Silverweed (Watership Down) ... Dr. Frank N. Furter, and most of the Transylvanians (The Rocky Horror Picture Show)
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Possible Real-Life Examples of CHAOTIC NEUTRAL
Jim Morrison ... Sid Vicious ... Wendy O. Williams (although Wendy was maybe closer to Chaotic Good) ... Kurt Cobain ... Jim Carroll ... Lou Reed ... George Carlin, when he was older and more cynical ... Emperor Nero, who fiddled while Rome burned ... Jean Paul Sartre ... many old-school punk rockers ... nihilists in general
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Your Destination in the Afterlife : LIMBO
According to Gygax, your soul is going to Limbo. Traditionally, Limbo is a no-man's-land where souls go when they're not good enough to get into Heaven, but not bad enough to go to Hell. It's a little like Purgatory, except the souls here aren't being purged or cleansed, they're just sort of floating around. In many cultures, Limbo was the destination of suicides, heretics, and other undesirables. In Catholicism, Limbo used to be where they sent unbaptized babies that died in infancy, although the Roman Catholic Church later disavowed the existence of Limbo.
In the AD&D universe, the plane of Limbo has five levels and is located between Gladsheim and Pandemonium. Gygax also calls it "Entropy" and suggests that it's just a big nothing, so I'm a little confused as to why it would have five levels. If it's just a big nothing, wouldn't it be just one level? Or more precisely, no levels? Hey, let's ask Gygax what the deal was with that. Anyone got a Ouija board?
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I always score as True Neutral, which is coincidentally the alignment of every AD&D 1st edition character I've ever played.
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You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.
Neutral Good or Lawful Good
-7 chaos, -8 evil and 13 balance
Loyalty and devotion lead to bravery. Bravery leads to the spirit of self-sacrifice. The spirit of self-sacrifice creates trust in the power of Love
-- Morihei Ueshiba
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With regards to Law and Chaos, you are Neutral or maybe Lawful
With regards to Good and Evil, you are Good
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Your scored a combination of TWO alignments, Neutral Good and Lawful Good.
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To give you a general idea, people of this alignment combination are primarily good and secondarily lawful. They are reliable people with a solid work ethic and a firm sense of responsibility, honest in friendship and devoted in love. They define "good" as the greatest benefit for the greatest number of people, and they believe Law (structure) is more useful than Chaos (freedom) in achieving this end. These people have an idealistic and almost child-like trust of The Law. However, they also realize that The Law is a means to an end, not an end in itself. When laws are no longer beneficial for everyone, they must be changed. Laws exist to serve the people, not the other way around. Naturally there must be some form of government, but it should be government "by, for, and of the people." Rulers should possess limited power and should always put the interests of the people first, or not rule to begin with. This alignment mix is primarily concerned with achieving a fair and happy utopia for everyone.
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Quick Scoring Guide
evil scores of -8 to -19 : generally good
evil scores of -20 to -29 : exceptionally good
evil scores of -30 & down : saint
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Fictional Examples Of This Alignment Combination
One example of this alignment combination might be Harry Potter -- the prodigal son of Hogwarts, and the one prophesized to defeat the wicked Lord Voldemort. Harry is a good guy who generally plays by the rules. However, he is more good than he is lawful, and he'll sometimes break (or at least bend) the rules in order to achieve the greater good. He understands the importance of rules, but he will question rules that jeopardize the innocent or helpless. He is a loyal friend who treats others with honesty, fairness, and compassion. He is also quite humble and often underestimates his own powers, which are at any rate considerable. He can be a bit of a goody two-shoes at times, but overall he's a likeable sort. Not to mention he gives hope to scrawny four-eyed nerds everywhere, which makes him something of a patron saint to many AD&D gamers! ...
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Your Destination in the Afterlife : PARADISE
According to Gygax, your soul is going to Paradise. Actually "The Twin Paradises" because in AD&D, the plane of Paradise has two levels that resemble each other. The name Paradise evokes images of the Christian "Garden of Eden," but many cultures had their own versions of Paradise. It was always a place of peace and happiness, often a garden or idyll of some kind. But (as was the case with the Garden of Eden) there were often a few ground rules that had to be followed.
In AD&D, the plane of Paradise has two levels and lies between Heaven and Elysium.
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True Neutral (with slight tendencies toward another alignment)
-1 chaos, -5 evil and 9 balance!
Do the math
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Now with that logic, it makes me insane, but what about you?
What makes you nuts?
The world is a mess.
The mess is full of color, beauty, laughter, happiness, sadness, pain, misery, and everyone can relate to this crazy world. For we all live
So I took it again...
Your result for The 1st Edition Advanced Dungeons & Dragons Alignment Calculator ...
Absolute Neutral
"That that is, is."
-- SHAKESPEARE
N.B : Absolute Neutral is just another way of saying True Neutral -- they're essentially the same. Neutral is Neutral. The only difference is, your score in the balance variable was exceptionally high, so I'm using the term "Absolute" to distinguish it from lesser scores. You can read the True Neutral description under "all possible test results" at the bottom of this page. The description here is similar, except a bit more philosophical.
There are two ways to score True Neutral ...
#1 : By choosing the "neutral" answer at least two-thirds of the time, and therefore scoring a balance of 20 or greater.
#2 : By choosing an equal or almost equal number of lawful, chaotic, good, and evil answers, so that these opposites even out to roughly zero.
Your score indicates way #1, which was the harder way. You answered most of the questions neutrally and objectively, something a lot of people can't do. Rather than choosing a wide variety of answers and averaging somewhere in the middle, you chose the actual "true neutral option" for most of the questions, which places you squarely in the center. You are a solid True Neutral, with a profound understanding of reality and a firm grasp of the universal principles that govern events. You see or at least sense the Big Picture, and realize that things ultimately tend to balance out. Evil is merely the equal and opposite counterbalance for Good, just as Chaos is for Order. Without one, you cannot have the other. Opposites define things and give them relevance. Everything is relative, and part of a larger pattern. Mankind also has his place in the Universe. In the grand scheme of things, mankind is essentially another animal, not so different than the animals that walk on all fours. Unfortunately, mankind believes everything revolves around him and acts according to his own belief system, which has a way of upsetting the natural balance of things ... something a True Neutral person wishes to avoid. The ancient druids, mystic priests of Nature and supposedly the architects of Stonehenge, are an example of the True Neutral philosophy.
True Neutral is the eternal Balance. It is the third way, the edge of the coin. It is the truth between opposing views, the equal and opposite reaction for any action. It is the answer to the riddle and the punchline to the joke. It is timeless cosmic principles and it is an amoeba. It is an animal acting on natural instinct, a regular working stiff looking out for Number One, and a brilliant philosopher speaking of Yin and Yang. It is forces in conflict yet at the same time in harmony, the perpetual ebb and flow of the Universe. It is that that is. It sees the world objectively and it doesn't judge -- it only responds accordingly. Self-preservation is the first law and everyone is responsible for himself. True Neutral does not go out of its way to help (or hurt) anyone. It does what it must to survive and puts itself and its loved ones first, but it doesn't resent other people for doing the same. In fact it expects other people to do the same, because this is only human nature. People love and hate, fight and f**k, work and play, win and lose and die. Life is the world around us, the world we know. People constantly try to make things happen, or stop things from happening, or argue about what should have happened, yet the only thing that actually matters is what does happen. This is Sun Tzu, viewing all the variables of war and making purely objective maneuvers based on mathematical odds ... this is Machiavalli, who knew that risk was unavoidable, and that all one can really do is assess the risks and act objectively, as it is far better to make mistakes of ambition than mistakes of sloth ... this is the person who is in tune with the world, the one who sees things as they really are and who acts accordingly. True Neutral considers everything and ignores nothing. It views the world with an animal simplicity, yet at the same time with a cosmic profundity. It is Aristotle's beast and god, lowest to highest, beginning to end, alpha omega. If some Greater Power guides the Universe -- whether it is an omnipotent architect of intelligent design, or an impersonal mathematical constant -- such a Power would be True Neutral. This is the alignment of The Big Picture, the inscrutable weave of Destiny.
Examples of True Neutral
Animals, plants, minerals, metals, time, space, and the Universe.
Your Destination in the Afterlife : ?
Gygax never actually assigned an Afterlife to the True Neutral alignment. If you look at the chart for the Outer Planes (Heaven, Hell, Olympus, The Abyss, etc) you'll notice that the center of the planar chart, which corresponds to the central alignment of True Neutral, consists of the inner planes (including the world of the living) surrounded by the Astral Plane. And the Astral Plane is nothing more than a medium separating the Afterlife from the world of the living. It is a vast emptiness which souls pass through on their way to their final destination. While the Astral Plane is technically an outer plane, it's not the Afterlife, just a conduit to the Afterlife.
As the True Neutral alignment has no Afterlife destination, you have to wonder if True Neutral souls are simply reincarnated over and over. Remember, at the exact center of the planar chart is the Prime Material Plane, which is the world of the living. Maybe that's the point Gygax was trying to make. Maybe True Neutral beings, humans as well as animals, just keep coming back around again and again, a perpetual balance where life is neither created nor destroyed.
After all, life too is energy.
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Oh yes. This damn test again. There are a couple of other similar ones I have the same problem with - I am NOT evil! I have done this test many times but it always scores me as Chaotic Evil merely because I am selfish. That doesn't mean I'm mean or sadistic (because I am not -at all-), so the result doesn't fit me. Not to mention many questions are about weird situations one will never end up in e.g. that whole deal with the friends captured at that feast...I don't think it's reasonable to base a real person's alignment on such things. I think I'm something between True Neutral and Chaotic Neutral, not evil. Probably more likely True Neutral because I'm too restrained by my ridiculous fears (which I hate so much because I value my freedom to the extent that I've felt depressed because I'm not omnipotent). I think for a person to be 'evil' they would have to be sadistic, daring and either very calculating or very reckless.
But, here is my result anyhow. At least it clarifies later on that I'm only mildly evil with my score of 11. (...but then my results go on to claim that I'm more evil and chaotic than 95% of my peers)
Chaotic Evil
17 chaos, 11 evil and 6 balance!
"I'm the hit and run raper in anger,
knife-sharpened tippy-toed ...
or just a shoot 'em dead brain bell jangler,
the one you never seen before"
-- THE ROLLING STONES, Midnight Rambler
With regards to Law and Chaos, you are Chaotic
With regards to Good and Evil, you are Evil
Chaotic Evil people are all different, and that's the key to understanding them. Each of them is a world unto himself or herself. They are fiercely individualistic to the point of literally caring about nothing except themselves, and view other people as either their followers or their enemies. Everything revolves around the Self -- all else is illusion. Other people are generally just tools or playthings, to be used and/or discarded at will. Only the individual matters, and an individual's worth is determined by his or her own strength and merit. Weaker or less intelligent individuals are begging to be taken advantage of, because if someone cannot act of their own free will, they don't deserve free will to begin with. Which is why lesser people join groups and follow authority figures. Groups have rules, rules surpress personal choice, therefore groups are the enemy of the individual, with society being the largest group and therefore the ultimate enemy. Society must be avoided, manipulated, or attacked (as applicable). Arrogance, rebelliousness, paranoia, and hatred are the cornerstones of Chaotic Evil thought. The term "sociopath" comes to mind (except that this term has become so overused it has no real meaning anymore, but that's another matter). In a way, Chaotic Evil is the easiest alignment to be, since it's entirely selfish and self-centered. In another way it's the most difficult alignment to be ...
a universe of one is a horribly lonely place.
Chaotic Evil is the most hated and misunderstood of all alignments. Because it is the polar opposite of Lawful Good or "the storybook hero alignment," Chaotic Evil has gotten the reputation for being everything that storybook heroes aren't : ugly, treacherous, scheming, cowardly, weak-willed, sadistic, depraved, and so on. In truth, Chaotic Evil is not (necessarily) any of these things. Each Chaotic Evil is different. One might be a backstabbing coward, another might fearlessly attack head-on. One might keep his word, another might break it. One might be a perverted molester, another might go out of his way to kill molesters, a third might not care either way. The point is, every Chaotic Evil does whatever he or she wants, regardless of how it affects anyone else (ironically, a Chaotic Evil's worst enemies are often other Chaotic Evils). A Chaotic Evil trusts no one, is moderately to extremely paranoid, and loves himself above all others. It's not impossible for a Chaotic Evil to love someone else, it's just very unusual. Still, sometimes it does happen. The two lovers in Natural Born Killers, the homicidal hillbillies of The Devil's Rejects, and the Tutman brothers from Blood Diner were all Chaotic Evil, yet they were fiercely loyal to their loved ones. If a Chaotic Evil loves you, REALLY loves you, they will defend you with a fury that even the bravest "hero" could never match ... if you are in their heart, then you're a part of their inner world, and their inner world is everything to them. This is probably the only evil alignment actually capable of real love, because these people are strongly driven by their emotions and impulses. They love deeply. And hate even more deeply.
This is also the most unstable and self-destructive form of evil, the kind that would cut off its nose to spite its face. Other evil alignments will grovel and beg if they are defeated, degrading themselves in exchange for their lives. Chaotic Evil, in its sheer arrogance, usually just says "f**k you!" This is Prince Mordred, dragging himself up the spear and running himself through, literally killing himself just to get within range to smash King Arthur's skull in with his broadsword. More than anything else, Chaotic Evil is driven by pure SPITE. All things considered, it's hard not to admire them at least a little.
Quick Scoring Guide
chaos scores of 8 to 19 : generally chaotic
chaos scores of 20 to 29 : exceptionally chaotic
chaos scores of 30 & up : crazy
evil scores of 8 to 19 : generally evil
evil scores of 20 to 29 : exceptionally evil
evil scores of 30 & up : demon
Your polar opposite is : Lawful Good
Fictional Examples of CHAOTIC EVIL
Gollum, Smaug, Shelob, and Ungoliant (J.R.R. Tolkien) ... Prince Mordred of Arthurian legend ... Cthulhu and the Old Ones (Lovecraft) ... cosmic abominations in general ... Michael and George Tutman, Uncle Anwar, and Shetar (Blood Diner, which just might be the single funniest movie ever made) ... Pazuzu (the demon from The Exorcist) ... Alma Mobley and the Nightwatchers (Peter Straub's Ghost Story) ... The Crimson King, Randall Flagg, John Rainbird, Roland D. LeBay & Christine, and Pennywise the Clown aka "IT" (the books of Stephen King) ... Alice Cooper (the stage character, not the actual guy in real-life) ... Jame Gumb the homicidal transsexual (The Silence of the Lambs) ... Freddy Krueger (A Nightmare on Elm Street) ... The Joker (Batman) ... Alex (A Clockwork Orange) ... this list could go on and on, Chaotic Evil is apparently a popular alignment
Possible Real-Life Examples of CHAOTIC EVIL
G.G. Allin ... Charles Manson ... Baby Face Nelson ... Vlad the Impaler ... Countess Bathory ... Caligula ... and an endless variety of freaks and deviants -- everyone from twisted geniuses to run-of-the-mill psychopaths ...
Your Destination in the Afterlife : THE ABYSS
According to Gygax, your soul is going to The Abyss. This was the classic "primordial abyss" of ancient myth, the eternal void with no beginning and no end. It existed in most cultures in one form or another, usually as the ancient chaos at the beginning of time from which everything else sprang. The different layers of The Abyss (and there are hundreds of them) vary wildly in nature and appearance, but they're all frighteningly warped and alien, and filled with every manner of twisted abomination. A spiralling vortex of insane horror ... but at least it's never boring. Which is probably more than you could say for Heaven.
The Abyss is ruled by demons, the incarnations of Chaotic Evil. As befits their alignment, the demons constantly fight amongst themselves, as each demon believes that he or she alone deserves to rule The Abyss. The most powerful demons (the Demon Princes) control the lesser demons to a point, but their authority generally extends only as far as their reach, for no demon willingly serves anyone else. Demons are essentially ungovernable and very dangerous to deal with. They can sometimes be bribed, but they are notorious deal-breakers and they'll constantly seek ways to enslave or destroy anyone foolish enough to bargain with them. If a demon fears you, you MIGHT be able to coerce it into doing your bidding, at least for a little while. But this is risky because all demons are unstable, and if you push them too far they'll snap. As an example, check out the final volume of Gygax's Gord The Rogue novels, where Tharizdun the Ultimate Evil conquers the Underworld. The Lawful Evil devils of Hell, and the Neutral Evil death-lords of Hades, surrender to Tharizdun and become his slaves because they know he's almost infinitely powerful and they have no chance of defeating him. But when Tharizdum enters The Abyss, the Chaotic Evil demons go berserk and attack him. They know it's sheer suicide to attack him, yet they attack him anyway. Forced to choose between death and slavery, the demons choose death. Which just goes to show you Chaotic Evil doesn't f**k around.
In the AD&D universe, The Abyss has 666 levels. I'll say that again -- six hundred and sixty-six levels. If you stacked all the other planes, one on top of another, they would fill less than 10% of The Abyss. So let's hope they don't fall in. Then again, that might be interesting to watch.