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30 Nov 2008, 4:06 pm

My reasons for thinking I had aspergers are obvious, and I had some good evidence, but I found that perhaps there were a couple of areas that are necessary to determine whether or not a person has the condition. I will be seeing a specialist soon enough.

I have taken this from the nas website and turned it into a test. It would come as a surprise to me if people with aspergers respond with the answer of no to the questions involving eye contact and body language. As far as I can tell, these are the main areas of actual impairment [thus not advantageous.]

See my answers and the percentages that go with the answers.

For section A, NO gets 0%, yes gets 6.6%, sometimes gets 3.3% and unsure gets 1.1%. Show the total at the end. I used a calculator.

For section B, NO gets 0%, yes gets 16.66%, sometimes gets 8.33% and unsure gets 3.33%. Show the total at the end. I used a calculator.

I figured out that the flaw of my test is that the main areas of impairment have the same priority as the other areas, meaning that no area is considered more significant than the other.

Section A: Social communication

People with AS may be very good at basic communication and letting people know what they think and feel. Their difficulties lie in the social aspects of communication. For example:

• they may have difficulty understanding gestures, body language and facial expressions NO 0%

• they may not be aware of what is socially appropriate and have difficulty choosing topics to talk about YES 6.6%

• they may not be socially motivated because they find communication difficult, so they may not have many friends and they may choose not to socialise very much. YES 6.6%

Some of these problems can be seen in the way people with AS present themselves. for example classic traits include:
• difficulty making eye contact NO 0%

• repetitive speech YES 6.6%

• difficulties expressing themselves especially when talking about emotions UNSURE 1.1%

• anxiety in social situations and resultant nervous tics. YES 6.6%

Social understanding

Typical examples of difficulties with social understanding include:
• difficulties in group situations, such as going to the pub with a group of friends NO 0%

• finding small talk and chatting very difficult YES 6.6%

• problems understanding double meanings, for example not knowing when people are teasing you YES 6.6%

• not choosing appropriate topics to talk about YES 6.6%

• taking what people say very literally. YES 6.6%

You might want to back this up with specific examples of the kind of social situations you find difficult.

Imagination
This can be a slightly confusing term. People often assume it means that people with AS are not imaginative in the conventional use of the word, for example, they lack creative abilities. This is not the case and many people with AS are extremely able writers, artists and musicians. Instead lack of imagination in AS can include difficulty imagining alternative outcomes and finding it hard to predict what will happen next. This frequently leads to anxiety. This can present as:

• an obsession with rigid routines and severe distress if routines are disrupted SOMETIMES 3.3%

• problems with making plans for the future, and having difficulties organising your life YES 6.6%

• Problems with sequencing tasks, so that preparing to go out can be difficult because you can't always remember what to take with you. UNSURE 1.1%

TOTAL: 64.9%



Section B: Secondary traits of Asperger syndrome

Besides the triad of impairments, people with AS tend to have difficulties which relate to the triad but are not included within it. These can include:

• obsessive compulsive behaviours, often severe enough to be diagnosed as obsessive compulsive disorder (OCD); SOMETIMES 8.33%

• these can also be linked to obsessive interests in just one topic, for example they might have one subject about which they are extremely knowledgeable which they want to talk about with everyone they meet SOMETIMES 8.33%

• phobias: sometimes people with AS are described as having a social phobia but they may also be affected by other common fears such as claustrophobia and agoraphobia; NO 0%

• acute anxiety, which can lead to panic attacks and a rigid following of routines; SOMETIMES 8.33%

• depression and social isolation: this is especially common among adults; YES 16.66%

• clumsiness often linked to a condition known as dyspraxia. This includes difficulties with fine motor co-ordination such as difficulties writing neatly as well as problems with gross motor co-ordination such as ungainly movements, tripping, falling a lot and sometimes appearing drunk as a result. YES 16.66%

TOTAL: 58.31%

In total, that would suggest that I am approximately 60% aspergers, of course you don’t have to work this part out, but I did anyway.



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30 Nov 2008, 6:05 pm

For section A, NO gets 0%, yes gets 6.6%, sometimes gets 3.3% and unsure gets 1.1%. Show the total at the end.
For section B, NO gets 0%, yes gets 16.66%, sometimes gets 8.33% and unsure gets 3.33%. Show the total at the end.



Section A: Social communication

People with AS may be very good at basic communication and letting people know what they think and feel. Their difficulties lie in the social aspects of communication. For example:

• they may have difficulty understanding gestures, body language and facial expressions
Sometimes (1.1%)

• they may not be aware of what is socially appropriate and have difficulty choosing topics to talk about
Yes (6.6%)

• they may not be socially motivated because they find communication difficult, so they may not have many friends and they may choose not to socialise very much.
Yes (6.6%)

Some of these problems can be seen in the way people with AS present themselves. for example classic traits include:
• difficulty making eye contact
Yes (6.6%)

• repetitive speech
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes (6.6%)

• difficulties expressing themselves especially when talking about emotions
Yes (6.6%)

• anxiety in social situations and resultant nervous tics
Yes (6.6%)

Social understanding

Typical examples of difficulties with social understanding include:
• difficulties in group situations, such as going to the pub with a group of friends
Yes (6.6%)

• finding small talk and chatting very difficult
Yes (6.6%)

• problems understanding double meanings, for example not knowing when people are teasing you
Yes (6.6%)

• not choosing appropriate topics to talk about
Yes (6.6%)

• taking what people say very literally.
No
You might want to back this up with specific examples of the kind of social situations you find difficult.

Imagination
This can be a slightly confusing term. People often assume it means that people with AS are not imaginative in the conventional use of the word, for example, they lack creative abilities. This is not the case and many people with AS are extremely able writers, artists and musicians. Instead lack of imagination in AS can include difficulty imagining alternative outcomes and finding it hard to predict what will happen next. This frequently leads to anxiety. This can present as:

• an obsession with rigid routines and severe distress if routines are disrupted
Sometimes (3.3%)

• problems with making plans for the future, and having difficulties organising your life
Yes (6.6%)

• Problems with sequencing tasks, so that preparing to go out can be difficult because you can't always remember what to take with you.
Yes (6.6%)

TOTAL:
83.6



Section B: Secondary traits of Asperger syndrome

Besides the triad of impairments, people with AS tend to have difficulties which relate to the triad but are not included within it. These can include:

• obsessive compulsive behaviours, often severe enough to be diagnosed as obsessive compulsive disorder (OCD);
Yes (16.66%)

• these can also be linked to obsessive interests in just one topic, for example they might have one subject about which they are extremely knowledgeable which they want to talk about with everyone they meet
Sometimes (8.33%)

• phobias: sometimes people with AS are described as having a social phobia but they may also be affected by other common fears such as claustrophobia and agoraphobia;
Sometimes (8.33%)

• acute anxiety, which can lead to panic attacks and a rigid following of routines;
Yes (16.66%)

• depression and social isolation: this is especially common among adults;
Yes (16.66%)

• clumsiness often linked to a condition known as dyspraxia. This includes difficulties with fine motor co-ordination such as difficulties writing neatly as well as problems with gross motor co-ordination such as ungainly movements, tripping, falling a lot and sometimes appearing drunk as a result.
No

TOTAL:
66.64%

Average of the two totals: approx.75%



Last edited by Max_Headway on 30 Nov 2008, 8:36 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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30 Nov 2008, 7:16 pm

just a thought, but I was doing too much skipping back and forth trying to add all this up. Maybe you might want to try it along these lines? Just have the sections with totals under each question, like this.

Section A

Do you have difficulty understanding gestures, body language, and facial expressions
No - 0% Unsure - 1.1% Sometimes - 3.3% Yes - 6.6%
Total for Section A:
Section B

Do you have Obsessive Compulsive behaviours, often severe enough to be diagnoses as OCD
No - 0% Unsure - 3.33% Sometimes - 8.33% Yes - 16.66%
Total for Section B:
Grand Total (A+B):

It just makes it easier (for me), to keep track of. Of course, mileage may vary...;) Just a suggestion...



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30 Nov 2008, 8:18 pm

Section A: Social communication



Delete the answers which do not apply.

• Do you have difficulty understanding gestures, body language and facial expressions?

No - 0% Unsure - 1.1% Sometimes - 3.3% Yes - 6.6%

• Do you have trouble being aware of what is socially appropriate and have difficulty choosing topics to talk about?

No - 0% Unsure - 1.1% Sometimes - 3.3% Yes - 6.6%

• Are not be socially motivated because you find communication difficult, so you may not have many friends and you may choose not to socialise very much?

No - 0% Unsure - 1.1% Sometimes - 3.3% Yes - 6.6%

• Do you have difficulty making eye contact?

No - 0% Unsure - 1.1% Sometimes - 3.3% Yes - 6.6%

• Do you use repetitive speech?

No - 0% Unsure - 1.1% Sometimes - 3.3% Yes - 6.6%

• Do you have difficulties expressing themselves especially when talking about emotions?

No - 0% Unsure - 1.1% Sometimes - 3.3% Yes - 6.6%

• Are you anxious in social situations and resultant nervous tics?

No - 0% Unsure - 1.1% Sometimes - 3.3% Yes - 6.6%

• Do you have difficulties in group situations, such as going to the pub with a group of friends?

No - 0% Unsure - 1.1% Sometimes - 3.3% Yes - 6.6%

• Do you find small talk and chatting to be very difficult?

No - 0% Unsure - 1.1% Sometimes - 3.3% Yes - 6.6%

• Do you have problems understanding double meanings, for example not knowing when people are teasing you?

No - 0% Unsure - 1.1% Sometimes - 3.3% Yes - 6.6%

• Do you not choose appropriate topics to talk about?

No - 0% Unsure - 1.1% Sometimes - 3.3% Yes - 6.6%

• Do you take what people say very literally?

No - 0% Unsure - 1.1% Sometimes - 3.3% Yes - 6.6%

• Do you have an obsession with rigid routines and severe distress if routines are disrupted?

No - 0% Unsure - 1.1% Sometimes - 3.3% Yes - 6.6%

• Do you have problems with making plans for the future, and having difficulties organising your life?

No - 0% Unsure - 1.1% Sometimes - 3.3% Yes - 6.6%

• Do you have Problems with sequencing tasks, so that preparing to go out can be difficult because you can't always remember what to take with you?

No - 0% Unsure - 1.1% Sometimes - 3.3% Yes - 6.6%

TOTAL SECTION A:



Section B: Secondary traits of Asperger syndrome

• Do you have obsessive compulsive behaviours, often severe enough to be diagnosed as obsessive compulsive disorder? (OCD)

No - 0% Unsure - 3.33% Sometimes - 8.33% Yes - 16.66%

• these can also be linked to obsessive interests in just one topic, for example they might have one subject about which they are extremely knowledgeable which they want to talk about with everyone they meet. Does this apply to you?

No - 0% Unsure - 3.33% Sometimes - 8.33% Yes - 16.66%

• phobias: sometimes people with AS are described as having a social phobia but they may also be affected by other common fears such as claustrophobia and agoraphobia. Do you have such phobias?

No - 0% Unsure - 3.33% Sometimes - 8.33% Yes - 16.66%

• acute anxiety, which can lead to panic attacks and a rigid following of routines; is it something you have?


No - 0% Unsure - 3.33% Sometimes - 8.33% Yes - 16.66%

• Are you depressed and socially isolated?

No - 0% Unsure - 3.33% Sometimes - 8.33% Yes - 16.66%

• Do you have clumsiness often linked to a condition known as dyspraxia? This includes difficulties with fine motor co-ordination such as difficulties writing neatly as well as problems with gross motor co-ordination such as ungainly movements, tripping, falling a lot and sometimes appearing drunk as a result.

No - 0% Unsure - 3.33% Sometimes - 8.33% Yes - 16.66%

TOTAL SECTION B:


TOTAL SECTION [A+B] /2



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30 Nov 2008, 8:52 pm

That's the ticket. Didn't mean to come off as bossy or anything. Now let's see how I come off...;)
A-37.4
B- 36.65
Total - divided by 2?
37.025

74.5 is the actual total

I think the problem I had with this is degree, rather than symptomatic conditions. I have a lot of these as traits; however, I work hard to minimize them around other people. But left to my chaotic neutral self, I'd score a lot higher.



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06 Dec 2008, 3:06 pm

Quote:
Section A: Social communication

People with AS may be very good at basic communication and letting people know what they think and feel. Their difficulties lie in the social aspects of communication. For example:

• they may have difficulty understanding gestures, body language and facial expressions YES

• they may not be aware of what is socially appropriate and have difficulty choosing topics to talk about NO

• they may not be socially motivated because they find communication difficult, so they may not have many friends and they may choose not to socialise very much. NO

Some of these problems can be seen in the way people with AS present themselves. for example classic traits include:
• difficulty making eye contact NO

• repetitive speech UNSURE (can't remember what it means)

• difficulties expressing themselves especially when talking about emotions NO

• anxiety in social situations and resultant nervous tics. NO

Social understanding

Typical examples of difficulties with social understanding include:
• difficulties in group situations, such as going to the pub with a group of friends SOMETIMES

• finding small talk and chatting very difficult NO

• problems understanding double meanings, for example not knowing when people are teasing you NO

• not choosing appropriate topics to talk about NO

• taking what people say very literally. NO

You might want to back this up with specific examples of the kind of social situations you find difficult.

Imagination
This can be a slightly confusing term. People often assume it means that people with AS are not imaginative in the conventional use of the word, for example, they lack creative abilities. This is not the case and many people with AS are extremely able writers, artists and musicians. Instead lack of imagination in AS can include difficulty imagining alternative outcomes and finding it hard to predict what will happen next. This frequently leads to anxiety. This can present as:

• an obsession with rigid routines and severe distress if routines are disrupted YES

• problems with making plans for the future, and having difficulties organising your life Well, eh, I'm probably ADHD

• Problems with sequencing tasks, so that preparing to go out can be difficult because you can't always remember what to take with you. ADHD again

TOTAL: 17.6 %



Section B: Secondary traits of Asperger syndrome

Besides the triad of impairments, people with AS tend to have difficulties which relate to the triad but are not included within it. These can include:

• obsessive compulsive behaviours, often severe enough to be diagnosed as obsessive compulsive disorder (OCD); SOMETIMES

• these can also be linked to obsessive interests in just one topic, for example they might have one subject about which they are extremely knowledgeable which they want to talk about with everyone they meet NO

• phobias: sometimes people with AS are described as having a social phobia but they may also be affected by other common fears such as claustrophobia and agoraphobia; NO

• acute anxiety, which can lead to panic attacks and a rigid following of routines; NO

• depression and social isolation: this is especially common among adults; NO

• clumsiness often linked to a condition known as dyspraxia. This includes difficulties with fine motor co-ordination such as difficulties writing neatly as well as problems with gross motor co-ordination such as ungainly movements, tripping, falling a lot and sometimes appearing drunk as a result. NO

TOTAL: 8.33%


Overall: 12.965 %

Interesting. While I get a very low score on this, I present similar to what's seen in some videos many members here say is "LF". Makes me think I fit a different description of AS than the one that's popular in the US or something. Whatever.


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25 Apr 2011, 9:29 pm

For section A, I scored 89.1

For section B, I scored 91.63

Average of the two is 90.365 (I have severe HFA)



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04 May 2011, 9:09 am

A - 62.7%
B - 48.3%