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14 Mar 2010, 3:49 am

Crossfit is definitely the exercise program to do, I wish there we had it here in Japan.

But the only way to lose weight is simple math, calories consumed must be less than calories burned for energy. It is that simple, and there is no other possibility. Exercise is not a requirement to losing weight. There are many reasons why it is a good idea, but it is not a requirement. Whether you exercise or not, the number one thing to remember is to plan your diet around your protein intake. Your protein requirement is absolute, you cannot cut calories here. It also needs to be very high, to spare muscle loss. Fats is also important, necessary for proper hormone function among other things. So, the amount of protein and fat needs to be calculated first, then subtracted from whatever total daily calorie limit you have set. However many calories you have left after subtracting protein and fat is how many calories you may eat from carbs. That is really all you need to know. Start with say 11-12 x your body weight in pounds for males and 10-11 x body weight for females to get your daily calorie limit. 1 g of protein per pound of bodyweight, 50-75 g of fat, then whatever you have left over for carbs. Try this for a few weeks and adjust as needed by reducing carbs mostly. Percentages and ratios don't matter for pure weight loss, but different ratios might make diets more or less tolerable for you depending on how your body reacts to carbs mostly. Some people do better (feel better) on higher ratio of carbs, some on higher ratio of fats.

Also, you can lose weight too quickly. UNLESS YOU ARE EXTREMELY OVERWEIGHT, if you are losing more than 1 - 1.5 pounds a week, you actually need to increase calories slightly because this indicates you are likely losing too much LBM (lean body mass). There is however a fairly large decrease in weight the first weeks. This is of no concern, it is just water.

Back to exercise. Exercise during dieting is basically just a tool to promote protein synthesis. It should not used as a tool to "burn a bunch of calories", as it doesn't really. Doing a bunch of aerobics or running is actually not a good idea. Particularly men only need to weight train with moderately heavy weights once or twice a week maximum. Women on the other hand have different hormone profiles, so the closer a woman gets to her goal, the more she might have to include some cardio work as well. As far as crossfit goes, nobody has any business whatsoever trying to start a crossfit program while dieting. REPEAT: do not engage in crossfit if you are new to exercise and starting a diet. If you have already been PROPERLY exercising for some time, then crossfit with simply a mild calorie deficit will be awesome. Another option would be too exercise properly for a few months FIRST, then start dieting after that. As Sound said, nothing beats Crossfit.

Supplements are worthless, except for a very few. Fish oils should be taken, 6 g per day, and that does need to be counted into your fat calories. A decent multivitamin. And possibly protein powders if you have trouble getting enough protein through normal food. That's basically it.

This is really all you need to know to be very successful. However, for those that might want more detailed info from someone who knows what he is talking about, head over to www.bodyrecomposition.com . I bought most of this guy's books, but just because I enjoy reading about body chemistry and the effects of food on the body.

Anyway, when in doubt, just remember the only thing that matters. Calories in must be less than calories out.



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14 Mar 2010, 6:03 pm

What also works is, eat what you like- and eat it actively, don't eat infront of tv or while reading it it consciously. Chew each bit at least 30 times, and then you also feel finished earlier. (because if you eat in front of a tv you eat and eat, mostly fast, and the feeling of having had enough comes much later because the body needs some time to react. )



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15 Mar 2010, 12:27 am

Silly tricks don't work unless the trick just happens to contribute to 'calories in - calories out'.

It takes around 20 minutes for the brain to receive the information that the stomach is full, so yes, chewing slowly can seem to help control overeating. Unfortunately, this is 'trick' assumes that someone is just eating until they feel satisfied, which will never work because if calories in are less than calories out, you will not be satisfied. The longer your body is in a state of calories in is less than calories out, the more you will have to overeat at any one meal to become satisfied.



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15 Mar 2010, 6:20 am

Have anxiety and stress issues, that seems to drop the kilos for me.



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15 Mar 2010, 7:41 am

Calories is an old fashioned measure .



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16 Mar 2010, 2:48 pm

blue_bean wrote:
Have anxiety and stress issues, that seems to drop the kilos for me.


It works the opposite for me - I once lost ten pounds in a week after the end of finals, for example.



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16 Mar 2010, 11:25 pm

morrison wrote:
Calories is an old fashioned measure .
seconded, watch the CARB intake, equilibrate it with fat and protein, and weight will start to go out of your body (:

BTW I'm on my way to get a new belt, my THIRD one this year!
I'm losing a lot of weight so my current belt no longer will be of use to me in a couple of weeks. The one I used for a long time now is too big for me, and the second one that my gf's mom gave it to me this past xmas is almost out too!
Congrats to me 8)


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17 Mar 2010, 2:22 am

blue_bean wrote:
Have anxiety and stress issues, that seems to drop the kilos for me.


Yeah but then when you go on meds for anxiety you gain 10 kilos and cannot lose it for at least 3 years... and then find oneself off the meds but still with anxiety, but now fat too.


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18 Mar 2010, 3:11 am

morrison wrote:
Calories is an old fashioned measure .


I knew I should not have posted in this thread. Thanks for the reassurance!



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20 Apr 2010, 4:44 am

Eirun wrote:
Snazzlestick wrote:
You should try to work on speeding up your metabolism as that makes it easier to lose weight.

Drink green tea, coffee and try eating very small but frequent meals. For example, instead of 3 big ones try 5 small ones.

Also vegetables and fruits like broccoli or pineapples are good if you want to lose weight 8)

Oh, interesting! Good thing I love green tea and coffee. ;) And both broccoli and pineapples are nice.


OMG broccoli & pineapples! whoooo
pizza party!



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15 Jun 2011, 5:05 pm

I know im just a teenager, but I'm about 15 or 20lbs overweight. I have just started my diet and I have an app on my phone called my fitness pall that is an awesome way to track calories. They have every food I eat, and my mom buys some strange stuff. I am also drinking V8 juice. It tastes like fruit juice, but has 3servings of veggies and as they say on the commercial, fills u up without filling you out!



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17 Jun 2011, 6:11 pm

I read someone (possibly OP) saying they had hypothyroidism. Losing weight with this, while not impossible is a lot harder than for people without.

The only way like someone else mentioned is use more calories than you consume. For a female, a diet of around 1200 calories a day plus regular exercise should lose around 2lb a week (more if severely overweight) but this is a weight loss count and not a lifelong count. Once you hit your goal, your calories need to raise to maintain the target weight.

Things like weight watchers work really well as lifestlye changes, especially their points system. You dont need to go to the classes just find the points book.

Its also worth speaking with your endocrinologist about weightloss if you have a thyroid problem as they will have dealt with many people with the same issues.



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26 Jun 2011, 12:33 am

I used the myfitnesspal app to lose 60 lbs in 4 months earlier this year. I drink a lot of coke zero now and cut milk out of my diet. I eat a lot of doughnuts and cake again, but only because I kept losing weight after reaching my goal. If I start gaining again I'll cut the sweets out.



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05 Jul 2011, 1:54 am

I'm doing the "Belly Fat Cure" by Jorge Cruise, he does a Carb Swap system, you count sugars & carbs (not calories.) I downloaded his book on my Kindle for $1.99. After seeing the book in my hands w/colored pics & recipes I went ahead & bought the book for $22 (it came w/a supplemental book as well.) Within the 1st 4 days of trying it out I lost 4 lbs eating fast food. Previously I had been starving myself on the HCG diet only to lose a bunch of weight then regain it after I started eating normally. Just throwing another suggestion out there.



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07 Jul 2011, 4:08 pm

I've found that once I really set my mind to it there's no stopping me from loosing weight.

About 15 months ago I realized my clothes had begun to be too small, so one day I weighed myself and saw I weighed about 212lb/96kg.
I'm female, 5.6ft/169cm, my ideal weight is around 128lb/58kg (luckily this is the weight that makes me both feel the best about and look the best).
So I was very overweight.

The shock when I saw I'd become this overweight gave me a kick start I guess, and I began loosing weight immediately. I started some time during Spring and kept at it until some time during the following Autumn, when I was down at 160lb/73kg, and then I suddenly began to slip.
I remember how it started:

I'd been visiting at a friend's who had just as bad eating habits I used to have. And I thought it was okay to have a day off now and then, in fact it can boost weight loss, so I didn't think it was that big of a deal when I visited twice within a few days and ate ice cream and lots of carbs and fatty stuff for dinner. I'd had a rare visit the day prior to the first visit and had eaten Danish pastry then. So it was in fact three days off the diet I'd become used to over the last 6 months or so.

And for whichever reason, when I got back home, all the old emotional hunger had kicked in again. From then on I just didn't loose weight. I've managed to keep my at around 165lb/75kg all year.
But lately I think I've begun gaining again, and I just can allow that to continue! My looks is too big a part of who I am (no, I'm not a superficial person, far from it - my main interests are philosophy and various spiritual aspects of reality), so something's got to be done, and apparently it takes something extra...

Not surprising, really, I've always needed "something extra" in order to really get things done. I wonder if others can recognize this? It's really hard to stick with anything that doesn't have at least some level of fascination. With fascination - or interest, whatever we call it - comes strong focus (even hyper focus), and that is the greatest asset I know of.

.....

I would like to try out having a weight loss buddy.

So if anybody are interested, let's try it out. :D

I don't care if you're female or male, straight, gay or cross gender, you don't have to be my age, and so on. It doesn't matter if we're different.
What matters is that we have the wish to loose weight, and the willingness to fight to achieve it, there's no reason to not give it our best.

.....

One more thing: I used to think it was me who was weak. That it was I who lacked character and stamina, and so on. But since I've seen that I can do it - and I have done many other things too that many haven't done - I can't believe it's all my fault. And looking back I can see a lot of elements in my situation that made it harder than it should or could have been.
It is so easy to blame ourselves, and our surroundings sometimes enhance that notion.

I say: Don't believe it! It's not us who aren't strong or good enough! We just need a little luck too. And yes: Luck is a real phenomenon that has a real impact upon people's lives.
If we've had bad luck in the past (I certainly have!), then it's time to see if we can help change the tide!

Ladies and Gentlemen! Let's do it! :wink:


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07 Jul 2011, 4:20 pm

cmeaspie wrote:
I'm doing the "Belly Fat Cure" by Jorge Cruise, he does a Carb Swap system, you count sugars & carbs (not calories.) I downloaded his book on my Kindle for $1.99. After seeing the book in my hands w/colored pics & recipes I went ahead & bought the book for $22 (it came w/a supplemental book as well.) Within the 1st 4 days of trying it out I lost 4 lbs eating fast food. Previously I had been starving myself on the HCG diet only to lose a bunch of weight then regain it after I started eating normally. Just throwing another suggestion out there.


cm,

I found out that I have a form of allergy - yeast allergy. I'e had it since I was a teen, but never knew it.
I've always wondered why my nose runs every time I get outside and walk a bit. But nobody ever answered when I mentioned it, so I assumed no one knew what could be causing it.
It wasn't until I looked up on low carb diets (you know, Dr. Atkins), and I realized that "Hey! That's the symptoms I've had most of my life!".

Problem is I really, really love bread! That is, I feel I could easily live without the taste itself, but when I try to not eat any bread for a day - or two days - my thoughts start to center around bread, almost like an obsession, it's really odd. I've never had anything like this, not even with coffee - and everybody says coffee can be addictive.

I wanted to try out the Atkins idea that has you start with less than 20 carbs a day, and then you can add a little more every week for 5 weeks (I think it is). It says in the description that it's normal to find it hard to be without bread in the beginning, but I'd never have thought it'd be this hard. - I did cut a lot down on bread for a period, and my nose stopped running. It was wonderful to suddenly be able to go out without those symptoms. - For the first time in about 35 years, lol.

I'm thinking about trying again, for it would be nice to get rid of the running nose. But I guess for starters I've more than enough with just eating less. :cry:
Then again, maybe I should do it right from the beginning. It's often proven to be the best way to go about things.


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