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10 Nov 2010, 8:44 pm

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i used to not like the idea of alcohol messing with self control



That's one of my problems with it, I should try out some day though...though will wait a couple of months until legal, coz hate doing things illegally.

ps Jaz1787 I saw on your profile you a horsie and sciency aussie girl like me, yayay, another one out there!



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11 Nov 2010, 12:03 am

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what im wondering as i write this is simple: how do all of you is AS land think of that drug known as Alcohol?

It worked. Until it stopped working.

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do you use it?

No.

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if not, why?

Because I'm an alcoholic.

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how do you feel once youve had a few drinks?

Like I want a thousand more. And then another.

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am i the only one that uses it to pry the mask from off my face and relax as myself?

:idea: I highly doubt it. :idea:


Friends, I don't much care if there's a "stigma" that attaches to alcoholic self-disclosure here (as an earlier poster mentioned). It's more important to make myself known and available. Anyone looking for a little clarity on this is more than welcome to PM me. You'll be treated well.


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11 Nov 2010, 3:25 am

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as i said before, im Irish. that stereotype holds true, for me at least. i dont get hangovers, noone in my family does. the only way i get a hangover is when i drink a very large amount of alcohol (that would be an obscene amount for the rest of you), i have inherited my family's tolerance for the substance.
the last time i got a hangover was the day after i drank an entire fifth of bourbon + a pint of brandy + a sixpack of beer, all on an empty stomach and over the course of 5 hours; and then it was gone within 2 hours of waking up. got to love that Irish blood.

Yeah, you gotta love it! Irish blood seems super-human at times. Really amazing stuff. So amazing that I figured I should do a little math to figure out exactly what you meant by "a very large amount of alcohol (that would be an obscene amount for the rest of you)." 'Cause, being Irish me self, I really thought I should know...

There's a toxicology concept known as "LD:50." It indicates the amount of a substance, like alcohol, that, when ingested, would kill half the population. With alcohol, humans reach LD:50 at a blood alcohol concentration (or "B.A.C.") of somewhere between .4% and .5%. (Just for comparison, drunk driving comes in at anywhere from .02% to .08%, depending on where you live in the world.)

The Rutgers Center of Alcohol Studies says that a 200-pound male (which I'm just roughly guessing you are) will reach a B.A.C. of between .4% and .5% after drinking 5 to 6 drinks per hour for 4 hours straight. So, a couple dozen drinks consumed in 4 hours. That will kill half of the world's 200-pound men. I guess Rutgers knows this because they cut up the bodies of people who have died of alcohol poisoning. But, again, just a guess.

You and I (and about 100 million other people) have "Irish blood," however. So, let's figure this out for us. A fifth contains 25 ounces, which is equivalent to 17 standard drinks (of 1.5 ounces each). A pint contains 16 ounces, which is equivalent to almost 11 standard drinks. And then we throw in a six-pack for good measure -- another 6 drinks. OK, I count 34 drinks consumed in 5 hours. And nothing more than a pesky two-hour hangover? Astounding! But, not unheard of. I actually drank twice that much in half that amount of time once, and then I doused myself in Bacardi 151 and had a friend light me on fire! Best night of my life! :lmao:



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11 Nov 2010, 4:17 am

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The Rutgers Center of Alcohol Studies says that a 200-pound male (which I'm just roughly guessing you are) will reach a B.A.C. of between .4% and .5% after drinking 5 to 6 drinks per hour for 4 hours straight.


210, last time i was on a scale, as a matter of fact. and your math puts my consumption at 7 drinks/hour for 5 hours; which would imply that i could outlive better than half the worlds population in a drinking contest. good to know.


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11 Nov 2010, 5:35 am

RainingRoses wrote:
Draax wrote:
what im wondering as i write this is simple: how do all of you is AS land think of that drug known as Alcohol?

It worked. Until it stopped working.

Draax wrote:
do you use it?

No.

Draax wrote:
if not, why?

Because I'm an alcoholic.

Draax wrote:
how do you feel once youve had a few drinks?

Like I want a thousand more. And then another.

Draax wrote:
am i the only one that uses it to pry the mask from off my face and relax as myself?

:idea: I highly doubt it. :idea:


Friends, I don't much care if there's a "stigma" that attaches to alcoholic self-disclosure here (as an earlier poster mentioned). It's more important to make myself known and available. Anyone looking for a little clarity on this is more than welcome to PM me. You'll be treated well.


There's a stigma? Sheesh. I am an alcoholic. I don't have a problem with saying it because I believe the stigma prevents people from asking for help. I wasted years trying to do it myself and it was only when I was beaten to a pulp ( metaphorically) by my addiction that I asked for help. You might as well say "just lighten up" to a depressive.



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11 Nov 2010, 9:05 am

Draax wrote:
RainingRoses wrote:
The Rutgers Center of Alcohol Studies says that a 200-pound male (which I'm just roughly guessing you are) will reach a B.A.C. of between .4% and .5% after drinking 5 to 6 drinks per hour for 4 hours straight.


210, last time i was on a scale, as a matter of fact. and your math puts my consumption at 7 drinks/hour for 5 hours; which would imply that i could outlive better than half the worlds population in a drinking contest. good to know.

Huh? How does my math imply that, by consuming an extra drink or two per hour over an even longer period, you'll somehow beat the odds I gave you??? It's the opposite. In fact, that's such a huge increase over alcohol's LD:50 that I would bet your claimed consumption level on that night is somewhere approaching certain death territory. Not marginal hangover territory.

All I'm saying, in case it wasn't TOTALLY obvious from my post, is that you didn't drink that much that night and you haven't on any other night, either. (Sorry.) And the point of all of this is to tell impressionable people who might be curious: no, people do not drink like this (not even Irish people). They can't *possibly* drink like this. They die trying. They might tell you stories like this, though. That's different.


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11 Nov 2010, 10:05 am

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... all on an empty stomach ...

That is irrelevant unless the alcohol needs more room and decides to empty the stomach.


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26 Nov 2010, 9:45 pm

Hi all. First-time poster here. :wink:

I started drinking heavily when I was 24 (around the time I started university). I was suddenly "on my own" having to deal with a lot of people I didn't know and having a couple of shots before leaving the house helped calm my nerves. I soon started to enjoy the numb feeling it gave me and would drink whenever I could. (I don't drive, so drink-driving was never an issue!) After I finished studying I moved overseas, where I felt I needed alcohol even more than before - I was living in a large, crowded city (London), living with flatmates for the first time, and I was temping (meeting new people every week or so). A couple of years later I finally went to the doctor about my depression. The pills he put me on didn't play nicely with alcohol so I eventually stopped drinking on a regular basis. I'm now on Prozac and find that even one glass of wine/whiskey/whatever can make me quite sleepy, so I don't drink much anymore. I have to say, though, that my social life has suffered because I still don't feel at ease with people I don't know well, so I don't go out much. :(



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27 Nov 2010, 6:26 am

I don't drink during the day and never when I have to drive.

But in the evening when I am at home.....

It is not that I "want" a drink. Even my psychiatrist says I am "self medicating". I just want to tone down the anxiety from life.



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04 Jan 2011, 11:43 am

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I did drink now and then but it was sort of like a limbo state where I felt I was damaging myself in order to fit in with people who were directionless.


Thank you, MrCarbohydrate.

Your words are an inspiration.

I drink to numb myself against the sheer boredom of having to socialise. Well, I'm going to have some time off drinking now, because I'm bored of that, too. I'm bored of hangovers and insomnia and stomach ache and wasting all my money. And if that means I have to have some time off from socialising, too, that's fine by me. I won't be bored - there's plenty of programming languages I don't know yet and I haven't even learnt all the major design patterns. Bring it on I say! :D



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08 Feb 2011, 10:05 pm

I see this is a old post but I felt compelled to add my thoughts and experiences with alcohol. While it may be true that certain nationalities are noted for being able "to hold their liquior" I feel it is more of an Asperger thing for us. Having Aspergers makes us needy and we want to fit in and be accepted. Alcohol is like a magic pill. It lowers inhibitions, and gives the appearance of others accepting us. Because we like to feel this way, we repeat the behavior, over, over, and over. This is how it affected me. I never developed a physical addiction, but I had developed a mental addiction. I was like many others on this thread; I didn't know if I drank 1 beer if I would stop at 1 or 16. It was as if an invisible switch had been thrown. Through the grace of God, I have been sober since December of 2004. I was one of the people that used to think I could "tickle the tail of the dragon" and it would never hurt me. There is a story that illustrates this point; There was once a young indian brave that had to go on a vision quest to become a man. He went by himself into the woods and came upon a cave and took shelter there. As he explored the cave he came upon a rattlesnake in the deep recesses of the cave. The snake could talk and asked the young brave to please carry him out of the cave and place him in the sun. If he didn't get into the sunlight, he would die. The young brave replied, "I won't help you because if I pick you up, you will bite me and I will die" The snake then promised to not bite the brave if he would just carry him outside. So the brave agreed and picked up the snake and put him under his shirt and started to carry him outside. On the way, the snake bit the brave. As the brave lay dieing, he said to the snake "I thought you promised not to bite me if I help you" The snake replied "yes I did but I couldn't help myself, biting people is what I do"



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08 Feb 2011, 10:15 pm

Aspinator wrote:
I feel [the problem] is more of an Asperger thing for us. Having Aspergers makes us needy and we want to fit in and be accepted. Alcohol is like a magic pill. It lowers inhibitions, and gives the appearance of others accepting us. Because we like to feel this way, we repeat the behavior, over, over, and over. This is how it affected me.

Same here, and that is why I could never leave the stuff alone until well after that underlying problem had been resolved.


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