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08 Apr 2012, 10:53 pm

Ew. You got some high school on me.

Doing math....18+ years ago for me now. Wow.

No, I don't care about the lives of grade school bullies any more than I do the lives of superstars. Seeing what the rich and famous are doing is just as depressing and a ridiculous time waster.

I have tried looking people up that I hoped the best for, but many times I couldn't find them. I still hope their lives turned out happily.



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11 Apr 2012, 3:12 pm

my thoughts about people who were a problem back then is, if the people they married knew what they'd been doing in High School, they should by all rights never have gotten together with them because they are terrible people.



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13 Apr 2012, 4:36 am

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Just think of all the major political leaders, and essentially the one percent. Most of them exhibit behavior typical of antisocial personality disorder.

One of the biggest bullies from my class is going to school to become a clinical psychologist! I almost puked thinking about her giving advice to people who are victims of bullying! I hope she changed, and that's what I keep telling myself.


^^^ So true! And if those very same people haven't changed & are still jerks, MissConstrue would you really want to associate with or be like them? I have 5 yearbooks personally. Sometimes I'll crack one open, but I usually just leave them in the bookcase where they collect dust. I know full well that I am not successful. Have never been. I know my bullies are the type who are successful. But those same people are liars & cheats who'd stab their own mother in the back if it meant they'd get away with it & rewarded.

My parents pushed me to be something they wanted, & all it did was make things worse for me. I can only be myself...as genetically messed up as that is. I do wish that I had had people in my life back when I was in school who were kind & even supportive of stuff that I was interested in. Instead, I lived in a world where I couldn't do anything right, no matter how hard I tried, or where I went. I guess that's why I haven't tried to look up people from my past either...it would only make things harder for me. My life has been difficult enough without throwing gasoline on the fire.

If I can offer any advice, it'd be to stop trying to please anyone else because in the end, it comes down to how you feel about you. You're still young with a lot of life left in front of you. Find your passion & pursue it. It's funny, just before I read this posting, I gave the exact same advice to someone close to me. LOL I hope you find your path. otherwise, you'll end up very resentful & bitter. It's not a good way to accomplish anything.

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Thank you so much Tomboy. I really feel regretful that I opened up that yearbook and let curiousity get to me. I guess it's true what they say, "never look back."...at least in this case. This isn't just the bullies but people whom I've encountered on a regular basis. I'm not saying all bullies are successful but it sure feels like anyone who is above me has this need to tear down on me. As of recently, I don't care what these bullies think of me anymore. I've gotten to the point where I don't want to even know. It's still hard though, I use to tell myself I need to get out there and do something. Due to my present factors, that won't be easy at least not at this point in time of my life. I just as well may try and not worry about it as I'm at the age now where life flies quickly and in the end, not all of us get to achieve or become what we wanted. I may never be content or happy with what I've become but I guess I have to accept it as I have many other things. I guess I was brought up to believe you can be anything and I really focused on that. Now I realize what a load of garbage that was unless you come from a prosperous family or the very rare smart one who through both luck and work achieved their ultimate dreams/goals. I'm not saying I'm never going to achieve anything or be conent as far as "success" is concerned. I do wonder though if people like those that bullied me took their privileges for granted. They sa all the time that the only reasons bullies bully is because they were bullied. I think most of that is BS at least in my experience. I certainly never randomly bullied anyone who was in a lesser position than myself.


Anyway I didn't mean to ramble. Thanks for your inputs.


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13 Apr 2012, 7:07 am

Watch out for false expectations.

When you open a yearbook and then go searching on the net expecting to see one result, you set yourself up for disappointment. You may not be disappointed, but honestly, hoping for the worst for someone else because of how they used to be (even if it was only yesterday) is not a good way to live. Try to avoid false expectations, and try to hope for the best in people, and don't go looking unless you are really prepared for what you'll find.



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13 Apr 2012, 10:09 am

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Thank you so much Tomboy. I really feel regretful that I opened up that yearbook and let curiousity get to me. I guess it's true what they say, "never look back."...at least in this case. This isn't just the bullies but people whom I've encountered on a regular basis. I'm not saying all bullies are successful but it sure feels like anyone who is above me has this need to tear down on me. As of recently, I don't care what these bullies think of me anymore. I've gotten to the point where I don't want to even know. It's still hard though, I use to tell myself I need to get out there and do something. Due to my present factors, that won't be easy at least not at this point in time of my life. I just as well may try and not worry about it as I'm at the age now where life flies quickly and in the end, not all of us get to achieve or become what we wanted. I may never be content or happy with what I've become but I guess I have to accept it as I have many other things. I guess I was brought up to believe you can be anything and I really focused on that. Now I realize what a load of garbage that was unless you come from a prosperous family or the very rare smart one who through both luck and work achieved their ultimate dreams/goals. I'm not saying I'm never going to achieve anything or be conent as far as "success" is concerned. I do wonder though if people like those that bullied me took their privileges for granted. They sa all the time that the only reasons bullies bully is because they were bullied. I think most of that is BS at least in my experience. I certainly never randomly bullied anyone who was in a lesser position than myself.


Anyway I didn't mean to ramble. Thanks for your inputs.


You're welcome! Being that I tend to ramble somewhat, I can only say guilty here too...so ramble away! There's nothing wrong with cracking open a yearbook btw. My daughter was here for a few days for spring break, & we were talking about some of the crazy things that go on in HS....she's a senior now. Well, I pulled out my favorite yearbook from 10th grade, & showed her some of the stuff that happened way back then. But I never bother to look up people, good or bad. I have learned to do my best not to compare myself to others as it only leads to me feeling more insecure & miserable (something I really don't need). HS was such a painful time for me that I have no interest in seeking out abusive people. I made a lot of enemies just by marching to the beat of my own rhythm section. I still have a few abusive people in my life that I am required to tolerate (one being my dad), & beyond those few people, I just don't have the energy to try to deal with other past bullies. I'm sure they have moved on as well. Shoot, they probably wouldn't remember the torment as well as I do anyway. Somehow bullies have a much easier time moving forward then their victims, but I suppose that's because of the lasting trauma they inflicted upon us. Since there is no way to repair the past, it's best to just move forward...it's all we can do. Besides, I was always the one at fault anyway, because I somehow provoked the bullying even though I went out of my way to avoid those who physically or emotionally hurt me. I have also never bothered to attend a reunion either. One is I never got invited to any until my 30th, & knowing these individuals from the past, I just decided that I'd rather not revisit people I just didn't enjoy being thrown together with (I learned to hate school starting in 2nd grade), since I had no choice but put up with their abusive behavior. I am not that curious as to how their lives have turned out. Yeah there were a few good people back then, but times change, & trying to relive the past is akin to replaying my worst nightmare. I understand that the passage of time can soften some people & make them less cruel, however I have no desire to pursue that possibility to see if the theory actually works. In my 40s, I found that I had to dump a lot of stuff/people by moving out of the area I grew up in due to financial hardship. In a way, it was a very cleansing thing to do since I am no longer around landmarks that could be triggers for emotional meltdowns. I have a new life & am making the best of my situation one day at a time. I still have bad days, but I am not immersed in an area with constant reminders of my past.

Be kind to yourself, MissConstrue...somedays you are the only advocate you have.

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13 Apr 2012, 10:30 am

^ Very well put, tomboy4good!

I would never even care to look at a yearbook, provided I had one. I remember a group of kids in my 5th grade class ganging up to beat me. My teacher saved me before they could do real damage. My mother enrolled me in Catholic school after that, where I was not physically assaulted, but got mocked and made fun of. I had a breakdown in my sophomore year and quit going. Although I completed college later on, I can't imagine giving a fart about how those people turned out. I do remember one of my brothers telling me that he heard some of them are living in the projects and not doing so well.


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13 Apr 2012, 12:09 pm

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^ Very well put, tomboy4good!

I would never even care to look at a yearbook, provided I had one. I remember a group of kids in my 5th grade class ganging up to beat me. My teacher saved me before they could do real damage. My mother enrolled me in Catholic school after that, where I was not physically assaulted, but got mocked and made fun of. I had a breakdown in my sophomore year and quit going. Although I completed college later on, I can't imagine giving a fart about how those people turned out. I do remember one of my brothers telling me that he heard some of them are living in the projects and not doing so well.


Awww, thanks hartzofspace. It's just all the stuff I had experienced over the years....nothing really special beyond that...it comes from my memories as well as my heart.

I had a similar experience to yours, only I wasn't as lucky. No one came to my aid, & I got the crap beat out of me. These kids had been waiting behind a hedge for me after school one day. It was not the only time I was beat up, but it was one of the more memorable. I vowed to learn to fight since I had only myself to rely on for protection. Ironically, my mother witnessed another girl get attacked the same way & came to her aid. I don't know if any of those kids ever got into trouble for their behavior though as they still continued to torment me as long as we attended the same schools. That's a big reason why I never bothered to try to attend a reunion. I have no desire to ever lay eyes on any of my tormentors. And since I've heard that the majority of the people I attended school with turned into alcoholics/drug abusers (no surprise there), I just prefer to steer clear of them & their bad behaviors. It's kind of funny, but also sad that people who are drunk think they're the most entertaining, attractive, & wonderful people. But I have yet to see anyone under the influence who is more alluring then when they are sober.


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13 Apr 2012, 3:39 pm

tomboy4good wrote:
hartzofspace wrote:
^ Very well put, tomboy4good!

I would never even care to look at a yearbook, provided I had one. I remember a group of kids in my 5th grade class ganging up to beat me. My teacher saved me before they could do real damage. My mother enrolled me in Catholic school after that, where I was not physically assaulted, but got mocked and made fun of. I had a breakdown in my sophomore year and quit going. Although I completed college later on, I can't imagine giving a fart about how those people turned out. I do remember one of my brothers telling me that he heard some of them are living in the projects and not doing so well.


Awww, thanks hartzofspace. It's just all the stuff I had experienced over the years....nothing really special beyond that...it comes from my memories as well as my heart.

I had a similar experience to yours, only I wasn't as lucky. No one came to my aid, & I got the crap beat out of me. These kids had been waiting behind a hedge for me after school one day.

I've been beat up a couple times as a child, and once as an adult (my ex) The time I mentioned, they had been threatening me all day and vowed to "get me" after school. I waited around hoping that they had gone home, but they were hiding. I ventured outside and they charged at me, grabbing the belt of my coat. I was trying to open the school door and run back inside, when my teacher opened it. When they saw him they let go of the belt and I crashed into the door, busting my lip. They all got suspended from school which is a stupid punishment IMO. My mother withdrew me from school because she knew they would just come back and beat me up again.


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13 Apr 2012, 3:53 pm

Once in grade school a boy on the school bus grabbed my hand and was bending my fingers backward. Hitting him didn't work and I couldn't pull away so I spit in his face. That worked. It also got me suspended from the school bus for 2 or 3 days so I didn't have to go to school. I was happy about that part. As far as I know the boy didn't get in trouble at all.

Another time when I walked home from school in sixth grade 2 buys threw rocks at me. They didn't get in trouble either.



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17 Apr 2012, 7:52 am

My mother has the year books from high school. I'd like to put them through a wood shredder then set fire to the whole shebang, but I think she feels like they're part of the record of my life. She can keep them. School was a rotten time for me and I don't think it would lead to warm, sentimental memories if I ever cracked open those books.

Haven't been to any of the school reunions yet and never will. I'm in touch with the people I want to be in touch with. Beyond that, I'm happy to live in ignorance.



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17 Apr 2012, 12:35 pm

The only time a yearbook bought about a positive experience, was this:

My daughter, who is Aspie, was being tormented in middle school. After graduation, she was invited to a party by the tormenters, ostensibly to say they were sorry. I advised her against it, since the same thing had happened to me in middle school. She didn't believe that the reason for the invite was suspicious, and sneaked out to attend the party anyway. Well, those kids assaulted her and the boy she bought with her. When she came home beaten, I called the police. They used her yearbook to identify the little b***ards and they were all apprehended and locked up. :twisted:


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hartzofspace wrote:

My daughter, who is Aspie, was being tormented in middle school. After graduation, she was invited to a party by the tormenters, ostensibly to say they were sorry. I advised her against it, since the same thing had happened to me in middle school. She didn't believe that the reason for the invite was suspicious, and sneaked out to attend the party anyway. Well, those kids assaulted her and the boy she bought with her. When she came home beaten, I called the police. They used her yearbook to identify the little b***ards and they were all apprehended and locked up. :twisted:


I remember once being asked to something in sixth grade. I said no. Considering that no one liked me or wanted to have anything to do with me I was suspicious of their intentions, plus no one in my house drove so I didn't know how I'd get there and back. I'm not sure if I had seen that scenario on tv yet where they faked being friendly to get a bullied person somewhere to harm them more.



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I found it in the other house I was living in. So I took it home and went through it. I can see even through my pictures what a miserable person I was. I was picked on both verbally and physically. Eventually I got curious and looked up some of the people I use to know on FB including most of the kids who picked on me. I discovered that almost all of them were married and with children. Not only that, but with successful careers and most of the successful ones were bullies. I don't know why I'm venting about this. I guess I feel more resentful than I used to. I feel like I should've done more to get out of my shell even while being single or that I should've taken more risks in order to achieve something in life. At 30, I feel I'm officially now a failure. This notion I'm so use to hearing...that school bullies turn to drugs and become dead beat parents living off their mommies and daddies seems like nothing more than wishful thinking or a myth...at least from what I discovered. Again I'm not sure why I'm posting this. I guess I have no one else to tell and don't feel comfortable talking about it with other people. I know exactly what my parents will say, "you're not a failure" or "they probably have problems of their own". I think there is something to be said about how sociopathic/narcissistic type people are usually the ones who rise to the top. I don't know. This yearbook really opened up a can of worms and feelings I never thought to experience The very few who did stick up for me and whom I got connected with are struggling themselves. I'm no scientist and I know not all bullies are successful or have better lives than the next average person but this experience seems to be telling otherwise.


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My daughter was born when I was 29.
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No reason for someone your age to think that 30 is the end of the world.....



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21 Apr 2012, 8:34 am

When I was a kid, there was 6 of us, and we didn't have any money of our own and I never had the $25.00 for a Year Book and so I never had one.
It was just one more thing the kids could laugh at me about.
I graduated 30 years ago and I have never been to a class reunion.

Pennsylvania is known for the exportation of several things.
Coal
Natural Gas
Timber
and our youth.

Most of the people I went to high school with - either got jobs and moved away or had to move to get a job.
Out of a graduation class of 365 - I think there is less then 60 people still living in this area...



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18 May 2012, 1:05 am

MissConstrue, think about it this way. If most of these bullies were not successful at all, they could be doing worse things to you or other good people. Not that they deserve to be successful or living for that matter. I really do believe when someone once mentioned informally "once a bully, always a bully. . ." Don't worry about other bully's lives- they may look happy or be good in one end, but they could really be miserable in another way. Just focus on your own life and try to only care about yourselves, your friends, and potential friends.