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15 Apr 2013, 12:47 pm

I'm really having a hard time this week. My husband and I just moved into our first house and we are excited that we will soon be able to have a garden and a dog. (We are both 30.) My FIL is tends to be negative about anything that isn't his idea. I cracked a few weeks ago when he was in one breath telling my husband over the phone..."no, no, no, you don't want to put a garden in or get a dog... Don't have a a dog in the house!!" (He may have meant it as advice, but I am an aspie and take things literally even when I shouldn't.) What has been building up for awhile came out and I said bluntly, "Not your dog. Not your yard. Not your house." My MIL called and told my husband the other day that my FIL is really upset and that they uninvited themselves from inviting themselves over last weekend and that I should really learn what thoughts to keep to myself and that my FIL was just trying to be helpful. My husband does not want to disclose that I'm on the spectrum to them because they will use it against me and not understand.

My husband called his father yesterday to try and smooth things over and it was like talking to a brick wall. All his father had to say was, "Well, you are the one who has to live with HER." "What does THAT mean!!?" "Take it however you want to..."

I've been misunderstood by someone many times in the past and then completely cut out of their lives. I understand that I am difficult to read and when I do express emotions it tends to come off a little too extreme. What I really just want is for my FIL to treat my husband and I like adults and not expect to be able to control every situation by voicing his opinion.

To make matters worse, my father-in-law owns the family business and everyone else in my husbands family works for him. Disagreeing with him is not really an option for them unless they want to create issues at work as well as at home so no one ever does.

I really hope that I really didn't just make life really difficult for my husband by alienating him from his parents and siblings. :cry:


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15 Apr 2013, 1:44 pm

I think one of the best things we ever did was set boundaries with our parents. Before we were even married we set some strong limits. It miffed most of them but I think they eventually saw that the best thing to do was let us make our own decisions. Being aspie I am sure that delivery of that information is never flawless - but it truly is the right way to go.

This goes double for the subject matter that they are upset about - I mean a dog and a garden are not exactly HUGE decisions. I am afraid that if you let them in on those kinds of decisions you'd be setting yourself up for all kinds of intrusions.

Unfortunately:

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To make matters worse, my father-in-law owns the family business and everyone else in my husbands family works for him. Disagreeing with him is not really an option for them unless they want to create issues at work as well as at home so no one ever does.


That's a big thing IMHO - and forces consideration - but, again, when it comes to decisions that don't effect them (dog and garden) I'd suggest standing your ground. Stand up now or they might be telling you how to raise your children some day.


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15 Apr 2013, 1:44 pm

I think one of the best things we ever did was set boundaries with our parents. Before we were even married we set some strong limits. It miffed most of them but I think they eventually saw that the best thing to do was let us make our own decisions. Being aspie I am sure that delivery of that information is never flawless - but it truly is the right way to go.

This goes double for the subject matter that they are upset about - I mean a dog and a garden are not exactly HUGE decisions. I am afraid that if you let them in on those kinds of decisions you'd be setting yourself up for all kinds of intrusions.

Unfortunately:

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To make matters worse, my father-in-law owns the family business and everyone else in my husbands family works for him. Disagreeing with him is not really an option for them unless they want to create issues at work as well as at home so no one ever does.


That's a big thing IMHO - and forces consideration - but, again, when it comes to decisions that don't effect them (dog and garden) I'd suggest standing your ground. Stand up now or they might be telling you how to raise your children some day.


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15 Apr 2013, 1:50 pm

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To make matters worse, my father-in-law owns the family business and everyone else in my husbands family works for him. Disagreeing with him is not really an option for them unless they want to create issues at work as well as at home so no one ever does.


In other words, your father in law is a spoiled jerk who isn't used to not getting his own way in anything.

Sorry, but that's what it sounds like to me.


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15 Apr 2013, 1:54 pm

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I'm really having a hard time this week. My husband and I just moved into our first house and we are excited that we will soon be able to have a garden and a dog. (We are both 30.) My FIL is tends to be negative about anything that isn't his idea. I cracked a few weeks ago when he was in one breath telling my husband over the phone..."no, no, no, you don't want to put a garden in or get a dog... Don't have a a dog in the house!!" (He may have meant it as advice, but I am an aspie and take things literally even when I shouldn't.) What has been building up for awhile came out and I said bluntly, "Not your dog. Not your yard. Not your house."


I would have been upset the same way you were. To me that did not sound like advice. Advice to me sounds like, "In my opinion, getting a dog..." or "Do you think getting a dog is a good idea? They might destroy the garden..."

I also have had issues with my in-laws. I feel your pain!

Is that an example of taking things literally? Like when my husband is sitting on his butt and says, "Can you get me XYZ from the refrigerator?" I don't take that as a request, I take it as meaning he wants me to get it, and I will get mad at him for not getting off his butt and getting it himself. He then later says, "I was just asking if you COULD. You could have said No." I tend to have many misunderstandings with others and I'm never quite clear who's the one at fault so I just blame myself.

Maybe you shouldn't think it's all you!! !



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15 Apr 2013, 2:15 pm

Scubasgirl wrote:
I'm really having a hard time this week. My husband and I just moved into our first house and we are excited that we will soon be able to have a garden and a dog. (We are both 30.) My FIL is tends to be negative about anything that isn't his idea. I cracked a few weeks ago when he was in one breath telling my husband over the phone..."no, no, no, you don't want to put a garden in or get a dog... Don't have a a dog in the house!!" (He may have meant it as advice, but I am an aspie and take things literally even when I shouldn't.) What has been building up for awhile came out and I said bluntly, "Not your dog. Not your yard. Not your house." My MIL called and told my husband the other day that my FIL is really upset and that they uninvited themselves from inviting themselves over last weekend and that I should really learn what thoughts to keep to myself and that my FIL was just trying to be helpful. My husband does not want to disclose that I'm on the spectrum to them because they will use it against me and not understand.

My husband called his father yesterday to try and smooth things over and it was like talking to a brick wall. All his father had to say was, "Well, you are the one who has to live with HER." "What does THAT mean!!?" "Take it however you want to..."

I've been misunderstood by someone many times in the past and then completely cut out of their lives. I understand that I am difficult to read and when I do express emotions it tends to come off a little too extreme. What I really just want is for my FIL to treat my husband and I like adults and not expect to be able to control every situation by voicing his opinion.

To make matters worse, my father-in-law owns the family business and everyone else in my husbands family works for him. Disagreeing with him is not really an option for them unless they want to create issues at work as well as at home so no one ever does.

I really hope that I really didn't just make life really difficult for my husband by alienating him from his parents and siblings. :cry:


Well... Telling someone to not get a garden or dog with someone is very hostile to begin with, as are their reactions. I doubt that situation was your fault. Your FIL will probably act like that forever, there's nothing indicating that he would change.



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15 Apr 2013, 4:23 pm

Thank you. Lol, yes, I would personally agree with the spoiled jerk used to getting his way comment. He does have positive qualities, too, but I've been wondering for the last 4 years my mother in law handles it day in and day out.

I'm relieved that it isn't just me. Sometimes I don't know for sure.
I also wonder why he doesn't see that advice usually starts out with a disclaimer: "If it were me, I'd...." "In my experience...."

All I know is that my brother in law remarked that he'd caught wind of it at the office. So that is irritating since I'm sure when my FIL repeats the story that he leaves out the part where he was being a controlling and egotistical jerk... "I was giving him fatherly advice and she bit my head off."

I'm trying to let it all go now--something I am terrible at--and my husband and I are just going to let him mope for now. I certainly don't want it to go on until it's about how I'm raising kids or something actually important.



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15 Apr 2013, 6:47 pm

Scubasgirl wrote:
I'm relieved that it isn't just me. Sometimes I don't know for sure.


There is such a thing called "gaslighting" and some people are very good at it. It sounds like your in-laws are great at it. Meaning, they make you believe that you're crazy when they're the ones who are. Don't let them get to you, please!! !!



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15 Apr 2013, 7:27 pm

Scubasgirl wrote:
Thank you. Lol, yes, I would personally agree with the spoiled jerk used to getting his way comment. He does have positive qualities, too, but I've been wondering for the last 4 years my mother in law handles it day in and day out.


Admitting that someone is controlling doesn't mean they have to be a bad person in every aspect, and doesn't make them any less controlling. I don't know the best way to deal with those, but there's probably books on it?

Scubasgirl wrote:
I'm relieved that it isn't just me. Sometimes I don't know for sure.
I also wonder why he doesn't see that advice usually starts out with a disclaimer: "If it were me, I'd...." "In my experience...."


I think he knows very well what words you should use, he just choose differently. I agree with mikassyna re: gaslighting. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslighting

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All I know is that my brother in law remarked that he'd caught wind of it at the office. So that is irritating since I'm sure when my FIL repeats the story that he leaves out the part where he was being a controlling and egotistical jerk... "I was giving him fatherly advice and she bit my head off."


That isn't even anything worthy of gossiping about in the first place :duh:



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08 May 2013, 9:02 pm

Pets are very expensive and require a lot of work and they do a lot of damage to a home.

No - you probably shouldn't have a dog until you can take care of yourself... You need some time to settle in and get used to having your own house and everything.

A garden can be productive - although it usually costs more to grow your own food then to buy it.
Ask me how I know!

Don't worry about the inlaws - once you get on your own two feet - it will all work out eventually..

There is always a period of readjustment after separation.

Maybe what they are suggesting is that you take things slow and take them one at a time and don't jump in with both feet all at once - else you might drowned in responsibility.



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26 May 2013, 8:20 am

slapdash wrote:
I think one of the best things we ever did was set boundaries with our parents. Before we were even married we set some strong limits. It miffed most of them but I think they eventually saw that the best thing to do was let us make our own decisions. Being aspie I am sure that delivery of that information is never flawless - but it truly is the right way to go.


You're right, and I wish I'd known that when I first met my partner. His parents have been making my life a merry hell, with their continual judgmental interference and attempts to control thinly disguised as "help". So, stern boundaries are being set now, and everyone around me is feeling very hard done by. 8O

That FIL sounds like a controlling arrogant old so-and-so. I suspect he has the emotional maturity of a three-year-old boy as I have seen in so many men, particularly from older generations, in positions of power. Best of luck to you if you can get through this unscathed; it sounds like you have the support of your partner, so that's a very good start.