Trying to understand
Yes it is always wrong to generalize or stereotype but there is usually a nugget of truth in it.
Lots of people without AS have problems with relationships. There is a difference between claiming someone has more challenges in a particular area, and claiming every member of a particular group are unwilling or unable to put effort into their relationships, have a habit of dumping people to move onto other things and ought to warn all prospective partners accordingly.
Blanket damnation of everyone with AS on the grounds that we in particular all give up on relationships when the first flush of novelty wears off is inaccurate, denigrating and frankly no less discriminatory and prejudicial than if “Autistic” were replaced with an ethnic label. I do not use Autism as an excuse to not even try in my relationships, and in all honesty, I expect my relationship with my partner is in better health than the relationships of many non Autistic couples.
My read of the OPs question was: if both couples new ahead of time what they were getting into, why do they have such problems with it later on?
First, i think that couples in arranged marriages have very different expectations than those who marry for love and for a soul mate.
But back to the question, many older aspies had no idea about AS when they married. The euphoria of falling in love can very easily be confused with finally finally finally finding someone they relate to, that will except them. And when things start to slide, its not as noticeable. Those with AS are used to being miserable.
Also, its not unusual for people to be attracted to someone they think they can fix. When they realize they can't, they become offended and bitter. OR if the person gets better on their own, the fixer feels undervalued and becomes offended and bitter.
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While going through some threads a question popped in my head. I am from the Middle East and although life is becoming more and more open ( westernized ) and teen relationships are becoming more common , but in general , marriage is a FAMILY thing. A boy needs his mother or sister's help in choosing a girl for a wife.
As I undertsnad it , in the west a bo and girl can be friends and go to college together, or work together , and become boyfriend/girlferiend for a few years and then may get married. OK. If that is the case, I fail to understand the problems arising between him and her.
In some threads a woman is discussing her Aspie husband . First thing that comes to my mind is ( Haven't they been dating or working together for sometime ?? ) Isn't that a good period to know each other ?
My question is not about cultures, it is really about looking at AS from different angles and trying to understand AS and social relationships. So, during dating time or engement, was there not enough to indicate AS in the partner or what ? From what I undertsand about AS, an aspie will not cheat or pretend to be something else other than what he really is ..
I cannot speak for others, but I am divorced. My ex grew to hate me. I told him how I was. He said he understood and believed me. He knew how I was, how I am... but he did not accept it. I did not put on an act for him or behave differently after marriage than I did before. The man held to the notion that I would change though... that someday I would just come around and be the person he knew I really was. After five years of being told how awful I was for being myself, I left his delusional (insert insulting version of the word 'donkey' here). There are some people out there who cling to the notion that they can change people. My ex had plenty of time to get to know me. Little did I know, that whole time he spent less time getting to know me and more time trying to figure out how to make me what he wanted to be. Hindsight... beautiful stuff that.
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"...don't ask me why it's just the nature of my groove..."
I have been in two previous relationships. I was myself from the start. I didn't put on any act. My second boyfriend thinks I changed however. I was myself from the start too, he just learned more about me is all and decided I was more like a "baby" than an adult. Going through deep depression might have changed me because I do tend to regress when I am depressed. I think it's a coping mechanism for me.
When I met my husband, I was myself but we went out a lot and I paid for him and he paid for me, we both took turns but I told him once I get my own apartment, it would all change because I wouldn't have much spending money. He said I didn't change that much and I just got used to him being in my life so my AS symptoms got milder. He says it's still about the same. But we don't go out much anymore because we did those things and the fact we live in an apartment. My life was just different then when we met. I was living with my aunt and uncle then so the only bills I had was bus pass and rent. I didn't even need to buy food because they shared their food with me and I hardly ate due to my eating disorder. But once I moved in my apartment, I started eating more because of my husband and he noticed how I got more color in my skin. I felt better and I didn't put on weight when I ate more. Thank goodness.
So I never put on any acts to impress men. What they saw was what they got. Lot of men noticed that with me when we meet. They liked it.
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