Are some aspie responses "automatic", therefore re
I don't know.
I don't usually expect anyone else to like something I am really into.
jam contains loads of sugar (if you ever ask a dentist) and it's not free from acid attack element. so giving it to kids often may not be that good..x
things that would upset me, if someone is downright abusive or aggressive/violent or financially not taking the share of responsibilities that really affect massively..other than that, you can't expect your spouse to be your clone. You could have just said "oh I know you are not into sweet/sour flavour" etc?
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My girlfriend tells me I have a bad habit of letting people know what I dislike about whatever they're talking about, or how my experience was different from theirs. It's aspie honesty, but also a passive-aggressive thing growing out of my anger over not being able to enjoy anyone's company. I find most interactions incredibly draining because it's extremely difficult for me to hide what I'm thinking or feeling, and it feels so good and natural to just relate to people based on that instead of what might be appropriate or acceptable in a situation. Most everyone else seems to receive acceptance, affectionate laughter, and approbation for just sharing their opinions about things -- why the hell can't I?
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Any possibility it might be a way of stating "there's no need to offer that to me?"
"... Makes me feel ..." is a way of saying the other person is in control of you, it gives them power over you, they are putting stuff into you.
"I feel ____ when . . . " gives you the power over you.
A person's feelings arise from within themselves, from their own thoughts and experiences: they are not driven in like a nail hammered into their brain from outside.
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"Every time you don't follow your inner guidance,
you feel a loss of energy, loss of power, a sense of spiritual deadness."
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Willard, I hope you read this even though the thread is old. I want to thank you, though I cannot possibly find words to truly describe how important such an innocent-looking question has been for me.
You happened to ask just the right question at just the right time, and I started to think, really think, why disagreeing about food has such an emotional impact on me. To make a long story short, I fairly quickly uncovered a number of not-quite-forgotten childhood memories, all dealing with abuse or neglect connected with food. They include, for example, being kept constantly hungry, being overfed, being purposely fed things that made me sick, being put on an experimental diet for several years without my parents ever consulting anyone outside the family, and my younger siblings and I usually coming home from school to a fairly empty refrigerator and getting berated if we had eaten "too much" or "the wrong things".
My husband is very likely the first close person since my paternal grandmother and grand-aunt died to seem genuinely happy that I like their cooking and enjoy my eating. He may well be the first person with whom I have lived under the same roof who does not have huge own issues about food, bodily functions, physical enjoyment of mostly everything, etc. My mother especially still uses comments "I [don't] like that" to indicate that everybody else should feel the same. Our kids don't want to visit her because among other things she keeps feeding them things she likes, most of which the kids hate (she has been told what they like and dislike, in a civilized manner, 6-12 times, but she always "forgets").
One of my most successful acts of teenage rebellion was to genuinely grow to love strong cheeses (e.g. Camembert, Roquefort, really old Gouda). It irks mom to no end, as it is "fine" and "cultivated", so she cannot openly disapprove, and has to even taste them herself, but one can tell that she detests most of them. But she would rather die than admit she is not continental enough to enjoy such cheeses <evil snigger>
I am now in therapy dealing with this and other childhood abuse and neglect stuff. I am really glad I took that step, and your question was an important part of the path that lead to therapy.
Thank you, Willard, and all others who had the patience to rationally discuss this seemingly small issue!
Athena
Very old, and fast - I fully agree.
Besides, being 100% NT does not necessarily mean that that person is sane or nice or likes a specific other person. Being NT can and does at times coincide with various degrees of narcissism, abusiveness and general being-a-jerk. Just as being on the spectrum can and does at times coincide with not-so-nice traits and behaviors.
Athena
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