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17 Dec 2010, 2:00 pm

I wasn't allowed to have a mobile phone until I was at least 13, but I wasn't interested in having a mobile phone until I was 15 - when I got one for my birthday.


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17 Dec 2010, 2:03 pm

Kids these days are growing up too fast, just like the kids of the last generation were growing up too fast, and so on, and so forth...

So, no, they aren't. Things just change from generation to generation. Deal with it.



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17 Dec 2010, 2:34 pm

Not at all. In fact, I think people grow up too slow.

It's now typical for someone to not become a full-fledged, independent adult til thier mid-20s.



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17 Dec 2010, 9:11 pm

Aw, I miss seeing some of these posters who haven't been on a for a while. :(

Considering it used to be normal for a 15yo girl to marry and have kids by 17, no, I don't think they're growing up faster these days.



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18 Dec 2010, 10:11 am

How come toddlers at a nursery are easier to control than teenagers at a secondary school?


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18 Dec 2010, 10:12 am

Joe90 wrote:
How come toddlers at a nursery are easier to control than teenagers at a secondary school?


Because teenagers are their own people, not children. They don't feel they need adults controlling them. Rightly so, too.



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18 Dec 2010, 12:09 pm

Asp-Z wrote:
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How come toddlers at a nursery are easier to control than teenagers at a secondary school?


Because teenagers are their own people, not children. They don't feel they need adults controlling them. Rightly so, too.


Agreed. They're not children and cannot really be controlled. They have to be respected and loved - that's how I "control" my classes. I've never had to call an administrator into my class for a problem kid. As to why they act the way they do in terms of social faux pas, etc., their frontal lobe hasn't finished developing yet, though their sense of self as distinct from others is very strong, so sometimes they do or say things that can frustrate adults.



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18 Dec 2010, 2:35 pm

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Faster than days when they had to go to work in a coal mine, or be able to till a row behind a horse and plow by age 10? Or when having babies by age 12 was the norm, because you were expected to turn out a half dozen or more (to work the farm) before 30, since you couldn't be expected to live far beyond 40? I think Western Culture has an unhealthy delusion of childhood innocence and bliss. Its nice work if you can get it, and some of us have been very fortunate in that regard, but its not a birthright.

Kids may be aping grownup dress and behavior earlier than is good for them, but IMO many are not 'growing up' as in maturing psychologically, at all. But I still collect toys at 50, so what the Hell do I know? :mrgreen: Maybe they're maturing at normal rate and we're just trying too hard to deny the extent to which we've aged beyond that level.


Dadgum kids! Get offa my lawn! :rambo:


I was gonna say that you beat me to it, but then I noticed how old this thread is. :o

My mom was considered to be an old maid way back in the day because she waited until she was 19 to get married. I look at most 19 year olds today and think 'if their parents are lucky, this kid will be out of the house by maybe 28.'

The fashion and appearance thing bothers me though. I don't think it's healthy at any age, let alone for a very young child. Just how short are the skirts gonna get before my daughter hits middle school?



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19 Dec 2010, 6:01 am

happymusic wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
Joe90 wrote:
How come toddlers at a nursery are easier to control than teenagers at a secondary school?


Because teenagers are their own people, not children. They don't feel they need adults controlling them. Rightly so, too.


Agreed. They're not children and cannot really be controlled. They have to be respected and loved - that's how I "control" my classes. I've never had to call an administrator into my class for a problem kid. As to why they act the way they do in terms of social faux pas, etc., their frontal lobe hasn't finished developing yet, though their sense of self as distinct from others is very strong, so sometimes they do or say things that can frustrate adults.


Exactly. I have never seen a teacher who attempts to control students do well in my six years of secondary and college education. Ever. The good ones, the ones who actually get people to do the work, calm down and behave, are the ones who respect them and treat them as equals. My English teacher last year was my favourite teacher, and he got a somewhat troublesome class to work properly every single lesson, and talking to him was always very interesting. He valued the opinions of the class and had proper conversations with them on a variety of different subjects, even though others would say they're things only adults would understand or whatever - in fact, once, when we were reading a poem, a class discussion on the themes explored in it lead to us discussing S&M for the next half hour :lol:



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22 Dec 2010, 3:29 am

I went into a clothes shop the other day and found a PADDED BRA for 7 YEAR OLDS!! ! That's going too far! I'm not bothered about whether kids are 'growing up' too fast in terms of wearing make up and stuff. The sexy clothes thing bothers me because it's like hanging a big sign on them shouting, 'hello neighbourhood paedophile, come and get me'. I am not supporting paedophiles by any means, but it doesn't exactly help matters.

The thing that really gets to me though is this complete lack of respect for anyone older. I have (not joking) seen this in children as young as 3. Plus I am short and wearing 'sexy' clothes is the only way to make myself look older... or at least it was until 10 year olds started wearing the same stuff... I've given up and have gone back to wearing tracksuits!


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29 Dec 2010, 7:17 pm

I may be 17, but I know kids are growing up faster.

Last year, for choir, we sang to a 5th or 6th grade music class at the intermediate school in my town. (We have 3 schools: a K-2 primary school, 3-6 intermediate school, and a 7-12 secondary school) Three girls were wearing black eyeliner. I didn't wear makeup to school until I was a 9th grader and still, I don't wear it every day. I don't even wear black eyeliner during the day.

In my town, kids as young as 9 have their own cellphones and my town isn't that big. I remember begging my mom to allow me to have a cellphone for my 13th birthday. I did get a cellphone, but I had to share it with my brother. I didn't get my own cellphone until just before I turned 15.

In clothing stores, I see children's clothes that would belong in the teen clothing section if only they were teen sized.


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02 Jan 2011, 6:52 pm

I don't ever remember thinking about, much less worrying about, "how fast" my daughters were growing up. What I was concerned about was the kind of human beings they were becoming. They had a great deal of freedom about things that I considered basically trivial ... their wardrobe, their hair, their rooms, etc. But if I perceived that they treated someone wrong or acted in a selfish or graceless manner, then it was time to sit down and have a conversation about it.

As a result, they experimented with a lot of what I would consider "wild" things, many of which made me grit my teeth, but they developed into two of the most decent, kind, loving, sweet human beings I have ever known. They are 22 now, and wonderful young women ... good citizens, loyal friends, hard workers, and I am proud to know them.

That's what matters to me.



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04 Jan 2011, 5:23 am

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4511193 ... kids-prize


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