Internal though process and Asperger's

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I like the points raised about not thinking in language, thinking geometrically and fast forward think these are fairly close language based descriptions to explain what no combination of words express which is exactly the problem. My thought processes work in parallel fractals which do not consist of language or mathematics yet mathmatical terms are again used to try and describe what English cannot convey. The inner workings of the aspergic mind from my experience at least is like living in a word where I must think in quantum mechanics yet communicate in NewtonIan physics and then the translation takes time in both directions. This is where the communication difficulties are experienced. It's not like the thought process is any more or less actuate just different in purpose, details and outcomes. The way my mind works allow for a instant meta data analysis which allows me to deeply think through huge serieses cause and effect senario and come up with logical predictions, arguments and paradoxes instantly or to simplify complex problems or find easily understood analogies of n9t so easily understokd concepts and some my "favourite" personal traits as sense of injustice in the world and brutal honesty.
It works wonders when contemplating personally enjoyable topics and I feel it gives me a much more intense experience of energy exchanges such a music, physical contact, sexual and verbal communication but this also it's to its own detriment. Two many people in the room and there is to much interference of out of sync waves like rain on water, there is a patern for each drop that hits the water and every drop causes the same patern but the jumble turbulent mess they create on the surface as a single item is no where near as elegant as the or pleasant as say the in sync patern a constant single drip causes. The mess is too much and you need to be in phase with people to not get lost spending time analysing the patern of the mess rather than paying attention to its cause. Forground and background are of equal value causing what seems like you being the dreaded word aloof when in reality you just taking the wider view until a specific trigger is hit to snap that overall picture monitoring and focus on a specific individual pixel's own patern of flashes.
I grew up thinking that how I think was normal for every one but it's not. I was only diagnosed this year around my 33 birthday which gave me the explanation to the results of my own thought experiments when trying to work out why the world is the way it is if everyone thinks line me. They do not.
I am now in a phase of learning the advantages of my brain function differences where as up until now they have only caused me problems. The acceptance that the diagnosis has allowed me to give my self is relieving. I am now seeing the causes to my disconnections, burnouts, meltdowns and shutdowns. Not that it prevents them but now I know why and am consequently in the process of following the one human trait we all pocess the ability to change our environment to suit our needs. In time I will have engineered a stable, logical and functional life experience allowing me the head space to deal with the ocean of chaos that reality seems to take great relish in inflicting upon us.
If I had more time and a better key board I would edit and elaborate but it's late and for all those other mental gymnastics going on I will stop.

I have always been a very fast and deep thinker. I always associated it with being "gifted", not with ASD. Of course, that's because I never got a diagnosis and was labeled "gifted" as a kid. I wonder if this is one of those traits that overlap between ASD and giftedness.

Do you all have high IQs? I am curious to know if this trait is more an "autistic" trait rather than a sign of high intelligence.

I've mentioned this a few times various places here before, but I have a theory that spectrumites consciousness' are inserted into the mind/brain's thought process earlier than for NTs.

Like, the brain's cortex has layers of processing, each layer disseminates different information and generally. Eventually though, we get a whole perception from these parts, and I think that's what NTs experience as consciousness. However, autistic brains are known to have more interconnectivity. If their conscious thought enters into this dissemination of information earlier, that means that they will experience less whole pieces of information and more smaller pieces of information. More smaller pieces of information can get put together in more different ways than fewer larger pieces of information. It also means that the mind will be filled with more information, and that there will be more different ways of perceiving things. But of course the mind still has limits on what it can process at once and it was designed to have the fewer larger pieces of information in it. Experience more constantly, and something has to give, so meltdowns and shutdowns happen.

Really though, we hardly know the answer for how NT's brains works. I like cognition a lot, it's by far my favorite field of psychology and was my favorite field of study. It would be fascinating to study and actually learn how autistic cognition is different from NT cognition.

I know this is an old thread, but I resonate a lot with what's been said here. Except thinking in different parts of my body, though that sounds awesome. Kind of like a memory palace of the body!

Anyway, I've noticed in addition to what's being said here that I think too fast OR too slow. We've covered the fast. The slow seems to be a details-focused, bottom-up approach thing, where I need massive amounts of input/experience to even begin to comprehend something, while other people seem to be doing fine. But once I understand it, I REALLY understand it.

For example, I learn languages, and sometimes I dip back into ones I know really well, and even several weeks back in I'll start up in the morning with studying and it's just gibberish. But then suddenly, after listening or reading a couple times, it's all very easy and straightforward. It's like my brain had an off switch for that subject. But then I get tired quickly and doing something else after that is harder. This happens even when reading English texts, where my subconscious brain seems to be doing fine -- because a few minutes after reading a passage I know what's in it -- but my conscious brain is just not understanding. That's always a bit odd, and it usually happens when something is distracting me, like a meeting I'm in.

I see the fast and slow in humor. When watching comedies, I'm usually writing the jokes in advance in my head. Sometimes I get it dead on, sometimes mine is better than what the writers went with, and sometimes they surprise me with something fantastic. This is why I love Arrested Development -- the writers are always thinking several steps ahead of me. And why I can't watch sitcoms that have lazy writing. But what's odd is that when someone I know just straight up tells me a joke, I often just don't get it when everyone else does. I guess I need that situational context. And the jokes I don't ever get are the dirty ones and the racist ones. I just literally need them explained to me, and of course no joke that's been explained is ever funny. (But still -- the dirty ones and the racist ones never ever seem funny.)

The quick humor thing gets me into trouble a lot (or used to before I learned to bite my tongue): someone says something, and suddenly my mind is going of on tangents and creating a funny connection to something else and I'm laughing inappropriately.

RE: What I was wondering, are there any resources out there anyone knows of that describes the differences of thought process between people with Asperger's and NT's?

Yes, I've found such a book.

Communication Issues in Autism and Asperger Syndrom: Olga Bogdashina.

Buy every book Olga Bogdashina has written, she's brilliant and one of the few who bother to ask the Aspies what they think.

The first book I bought was Tony Attwood's also. It told me nothing, so I kept buying books until I found Olga's.
Tony has an Asperger's son, but Tony himself doesn't understand the condition. I don't recommend him at all.

GregCav, you are awesome. I am going to check this out!

Anybody read, 'The Shallows: What The Internet is Doing to Our Brains' by Nicholas Carr?

The last chapter (not counting the EPILOGUE) 'A Thing Like Me,' page 222 excerpt, “The web allows us to borrow cognitive strengths from autism and to be better infovores.”


Contrary to the title, another book is mainly describing the neurotypical brain!

Kluge: The Haphazard Construction of the Human Mind.
By Gary Marcus.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kluge_(book)