Do you think one can "grow out" of Asperger's Synd

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I've found that I haven't outgrown it... and in certain cases it has gotten worse. Crowds have really become an issue. However a person can adjust so it appears as if there is nothing wrong. However this is not always the healthiest way to adjust.

I'd say its unfair to say what p eople with autism "do" as they get older. But on average, the lower functioning your autism is, the less likely you are to have improvement. HFA can improve, stay the same, or even get worse with time.

Also, I find it hard to believe anxiety and hypomania appear similar. Where is the risky behaviors that are present in hypomania? What about the pressured speech, the flight of ideas? Also a depressive episode is not needed to diagnose bipolar disorder, BUT a maniac episode is! In addition, it is advised to use anti-depressants with great care in bipolar disorder as it can push them into a maniac state, where as in anxiety disorder SSRIS are first line therapy.

Your brain is how it is and you can't grow out of it, but of course you can adjust and adapt to the real world and learn how to function in it, even to a degree that most of the time no one realizes there's anything different about you. I'm at this point right now, though occasionally I have my bad days and sometimes I have to fight for weeks at a time to get myself back in control.

I trust my own self, experiences, knowledge, and analysis far more than any single doctor. Maybe that's because when I was young, no doctor would diagnose a girl with any high-functioning form of autism. But I know who I am, I know what I experience, and I'm not concerned with whether any individual "specialist" agrees with me. Doctors and psychiatrists have faults and biases just like everyone else. Growing up, I was misdiagnosed with OCD, depersonalization disorder, ADD, and various forms of depression. When I found the real answer, I knew it was right. If you're unsure about what this one doctor is saying, and if you still think you need professional treatment, then my recommendation is to check with another doctor. Or two, or five. Ask them their reasons for their opinions, inform yourself, and make a decision based on what you know. No one can see inside your mind but you, and the way you appear on the outside may not necessarily reflect what's going on inside.

To those who say you can't outgrow it because it's in the brain wiring, brain wiring is not unchangably fixed.

There's another thread about black and white thinking. Maybe it's black and white thinking that makes it hard for people to understand that, yes, brain wiring CAN change. In adults. There are limits. Still, it's just not true that brain wiring can't be changed. The truth is in the grey.

As for if one can "grow out of" Asperger's, I think it's best looked at as a set of traits, rather than as a thing. Some traits you can grow out of. Some traits you can work at overcoming. And some traits you are who you are and aren't going to change.

And, overall, maybe that may change someone to diagnosable to not diagnosable.

But, it's also possible for different professionals to see the same thing differently.

I've heard it said that a diagnosis can only be given if the person is having trouble living a normal life, and that if you are able to live a normal life without assistance, you cannot be diagnosed. In this sense, I suppose I would agree that you can "grow out of" or overcome it. However, I think that this sort of difference stays with you forever, even if your outward behavior and even some of your perception/thinking changes. Even if it's true that your brain can change, your life is largely the sum of your experiences. People with AS don't have "normal" childhoods and social interactions growing up, so it makes sense that they'll never be *completely* normal in this sense.

I don't know. Are there any examples of people who "grow out of it" even in their own minds and never have problems again? I can only go off of my own experiences.

Black-and-White Thinkers/Believers are Dogmatic. They cannot re-structure their dogmatic-paradigms according to new data (example: flat-earthers vs Gallileo). Dogmatism is simply an indication of a lack of a developed consciousness and thus severely limited mentalities. Feel free to quote those statements on the other thread and let us know what they say.

No. We merely learn coping skills and self management of behavior.

However the underlying hard wiring is with us to the end.

I need to translate this part into more honest language...

...: "a team of at least 4 different voters (the 'subjective-opinions' of about 7 different voters)

Life is a learning experience. You can ALWAYS "evolve" and gain "wisdom" if you take time to do some learning. Don't just trust people simply because society labels them as doctors. The medical-profession is rife with historic falsities. A time even existed when the "state-of-the-art" medical-practice of curing sickness & disease was blood-letting, due to the false-belief that blood-poisoning was the cause of illnesses. They scoffed at the idea of tiny critters that the eye could not see being responsible. The opposition to that "truth" has now disappeared after the micro-scope was invented in order to prove that indeed, tiny creatures can make you sick, and today they're called germs and viruses and bacteria.

I do not think one can grow out of it....perhaps gain better coping methods for some difficulties it causes, or find ways to work around some of the problems also I think one can eventually accept them-self more, and be more comfortable with their aspergers/autism. Also beings its a neurological condition and it is pretty much agreed upon it lasts for ones life-time.....so also you've generally grown/matured which can also account for some changes of behavior/mindset.

Woah... like... I just kind of realised the the necro-thread is real... also...

So-called neurological-conditions aren't always permanent. The whole "neurological-conditions" idea is also highly subjective. Emotions have more to do with thoughts and thoughts have a lot to do with a phenomenon of which the closest English-language equivalent term to describe it would be something like a quantum-frequency or in olden-days terms one's spiritual-level or spiritual-vibrations. The brain is not solely a generator of information but also a receiver (it's like our biological quantum two-way-radio-device). Not all thoughts are that of your own (this is where we get into subjects such as telepathy but I'm going to refrain from getting into too much detail on this for now).

Well, I'm 44 and I haven't grown out of autism one iota. I have learned better coping techniques including taking better care of myself and behaving more socially acceptably. And I have discovered that autism diagnosis is based solely on observation. If you can hide it, then technically you don't have it. It becomes apparent how little professionals know of the experience of autism.

Nope. I think that as children we can learn techniques and etiquette so that we can pass as neurotypical, but the wiring of Autism will always be present. Maybe something like social awkwardness can be grown out, but Autism is not just social awkwardness. The biggest parts of it that I've always had and always will have, are that glass wall that I can never break and never really feeling like I fit in- no matter how hard I try or how well I can pass as neurotypical- and never being able to connect with someone despite shared interests and studying the paradigm of how humans connect. I've always been Autistic and always will be- despite how many social scripts I have and even after my ability to pass as a neurotypical is perfected. That wiring will always always be there.

I don't believe in so-called autism (I see it as some kind of over-promoted religious-belief just like the cult of psychiatry is over-promoted in America). I would accept non-social versus social and non-conformist versus conformist but the idea that we have to interact with others is utterly annoying. I would rather get my knowledge & information from http://www.the-testament-of-truth.co.uk/ than from the so-called "social-norms" (quoted due to the double-meaning as what is regarded as normal is actually not) any day.

So why are you here then? To enlighten us so-called autistics?

I am certainly here incarnated from another realm but it is not solely for so-called autistics.

Considering that I had been diagnosed as a so-called Aspie myself, but I'm no longer buying into the "propaganda" that is the pharmaceutical-promoting psychiatric-industry, you can "grow out" of anything once you start to "question everything" (and I mean EVERYTHING).

You have all basically been lied to and it's time to stop letting corrupt-society manipulate what you think about yourself. I can point you into certain directions, but so-called enlightenment is a personal-responsibility, and I can but put the spiritual-food (wisdom) before your spiritual-plate (mind), but it is up to you as to whether or not you're willing to "absorb/accept" the knowledge into your minds or not. Regarding someone who IS here to "enlighten" everybody, that would be The Messiah, and his writings can be read at http://www.the-testament-of-truth.co.uk/

Regarding why any of this should be taken into consideration, I can but point to the experiences of the author of the EBTX web-site, and his story of how he went from "mainstream" to "questioning" is as described at the top of the page included within... http://www.ebtx.com/wtc/911solve.htm

Also, for the record, the "Asperger's Syndrome" diagnosis has actually been removed completely, and no longer exists in the DSM ever since version V came out. The history of psychiatry itself isn't even based on genuine science but literal "voting" and "showing of hands" and academic-institutions are full of lies and propaganda (so-called centres of higher-learning are really more like pseudo-intellectual institutions of higher-indoctrination). Field-test everything for yourself to determine whether what "they" tell you is true or not.

I cannot really tell you where to start but it IS part of my responsibility to help "free" entrapped minds from the enslavement of the false-teachings of society. The main things you need to know about life is that it's a kind of karmic-system, what we or our servants cause others to experience will also be what we will be made to experience, whether it be during the current life or the next or any future life-times, whether in this realm or other universes/dimensions/etc. I am more-than-willing to point you towards well-documented scientifically researched evidence if you have any specific questions or describe my own personal-experiences that I've had with this human earth-life but we'll just start with this response for now.

Like all children, I couldn't wait for adulthood because I believed it would "repair" all the behaviors and results of my life that caused isolation and humiliation. Now that I see adulthood in my rear-view mirror, I realize that, while my behaviors can be masked, they can't be repaired. I haven't grown out of a single debilitating behavior.