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23 Nov 2020, 7:14 am

@RightGalaxy: Assuming for the moment that you are successful in destroying your son's relationship ... do you have someone else lined up to take his girlfriend's place?

I mean, if you are going to meddle in his relationship, why not go all the way and line up another girlfriend, a marriage license (requiring only his signature), and someone official to marry them off?

Well?


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23 Nov 2020, 7:26 am

Does "John" mean something other then someones name?



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23 Nov 2020, 7:45 am

Mountain Goat wrote:
Does "John" mean something other then someones name?


I believe “John” is a slang term for the customer of the prostitute.

This thread is sad. It’s hard to know what led the mom of the girlfriend into prostitution - I only hope it was her free choice as an adult. The girlfriend grew up with prostitution as a normal way of life.

I think selling your body is fine but doing so out of desperation is the shame of the culture not the individual.

Why blame the seller and not the more powerful buyer? Religious people “throw stones” to this day even though Christianity depicts this very situation in the Bible.

Why is our culture full of starving people struggling to even afford a decent education? Living without healthcare? Unable to afford the majority of housing?
Why isn’t the wage for the lowest rung of wages enough to live?
And why are so many people ok with the porn industry but not the prostitutes? I’m amazed at the number of people who accept porn as forgivable or even part of their daily life but prostitution is not.



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23 Nov 2020, 7:48 am

A john is someone who hires a prostitute.

As for the topic...
I'm mostly of the same mindset as Fireblossom here, I wouldn't judge the girlfriends profession, but ultimately it is your house and therefore your rules. It's not like your son is a minor.

And yeah, your son is going to be upset by this and think you're mean. I think that would be a common enough response for anyone getting out out of their house by a parent over a girlfriend. Anyway, I hope the two of you can find a way to resolve things sooner than later.



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23 Nov 2020, 7:50 am

The Bible does not say that prostitution is right. It says we should consider our own hearts rather then judge because while we look at one who is living a sinful life, we can be committing worse sins through having sour hearts and judging the ones we see are doing wrong (If that makes sense?).



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23 Nov 2020, 7:57 am

Mountain Goat wrote:
The Bible does not say that prostitution is right. It says we should consider our own hearts rather then judge because while we look at one who is living a sinful life, we can be committing worse sins through having sour hearts and judging the ones we see are doing wrong (If that makes sense?).



I’m referring to the “forgiveness” that is depicted versus “throwing stones”.

I am not saying the bible says prostitution is ok, but I’m gonna go out on the proverbial limb here and say the bible is not ok with porn either.

Porn is one of the biggest and most profitable industries in my country in which, I believe, the majority claim to be christian.



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23 Nov 2020, 11:20 am

Pepe wrote:
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My son who is almost 22 met a girl who he gets along with. They seem happy and chatty together. The other day he told me that her mom is a prostitute. She has a step-father but her biological father was a john. She works in a supermarket but is actively a prostitute as well. I can't accept this. He lives with me and now I'd like him to move out. He thinks I am mean. I sent this s.o.b to college and this is how he pays me back. He's staying with my brother now because I can't stand the sight of him.


Prostitutes are people too you said. Yes, they are.

...And so are their knife-wielding pimps. There are always men behind prostitutes in many different ways. My son, who has aspergers doesn't need to be around this. He's back home by the way. I'll tell you why. They broke up because both mother and daughter asked him for a loan of 5 K. Can you now see why I was so mad? A lot of posters here talked about me being judgemental, wasn't that a judgement of me? I live to protect my kid. A lot of psychopathic females take up such a profession and use the "pity me" story to get over on "non-judgemental" people. This has NOTHING to do with religious beliefs. It has to do with greed taking advantage of naivete. When your children associate with people like these, your life is in danger too. It's very hard for a lot of aspies to move on after a break-up, some will do anything to hold on. They will endanger their selves, their families, and even their young children. Don't think for a second that women and men of the streets can't figure this out and enterprise on this. Aspies in love are very predictable, easy targets. These two are going to jail. They made him co-sign on a loan. They made a fool out of him. He has a disability and paper-work to prove this. I already took action. Watch your adult children!! Don't be fooled. Teach them.



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23 Nov 2020, 11:29 am

beady wrote:
Mountain Goat wrote:
The Bible does not say that prostitution is right. It says we should consider our own hearts rather then judge because while we look at one who is living a sinful life, we can be committing worse sins through having sour hearts and judging the ones we see are doing wrong (If that makes sense?).



I’m referring to the “forgiveness” that is depicted versus “throwing stones”.

I am not saying the bible says prostitution is ok, but I’m gonna go out on the proverbial limb here and say the bible is not ok with porn either.

Porn is one of the biggest and most profitable industries in my country in which, I believe, the majority claim to be christian.


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23 Nov 2020, 11:33 am

Mountain Goat wrote:
Does "John" mean something other then someones name?

A "John" is a customer/consumer/client of sexual favors.

Mountain Goat, my post has NOTHING to do with religious beliefs or the Bible. It has to do with my kid surviving this horrible life with the disadvantage of aspergers.



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23 Nov 2020, 11:42 am

RightGalaxy wrote:
beady wrote:
Mountain Goat wrote:
The Bible does not say that prostitution is right. It says we should consider our own hearts rather then judge because while we look at one who is living a sinful life, we can be committing worse sins through having sour hearts and judging the ones we see are doing wrong (If that makes sense?).



I’m referring to the “forgiveness” that is depicted versus “throwing stones”.

I am not saying the bible says prostitution is ok, but I’m gonna go out on the proverbial limb here and say the bible is not ok with porn either.

Porn is one of the biggest and most profitable industries in my country in which, I believe, the majority claim to be christian.


Shadaaaapppp!! !


Religion a la carte.



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23 Nov 2020, 11:43 am

beady wrote:
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beady wrote:
Mountain Goat wrote:
The Bible does not say that prostitution is right. It says we should consider our own hearts rather then judge because while we look at one who is living a sinful life, we can be committing worse sins through having sour hearts and judging the ones we see are doing wrong (If that makes sense?).



I’m referring to the “forgiveness” that is depicted versus “throwing stones”.

I am not saying the bible says prostitution is ok, but I’m gonna go out on the proverbial limb here and say the bible is not ok with porn either.

Porn is one of the biggest and most profitable industries in my country in which, I believe, the majority claim to be christian.


Shadaaaapppp!! !


Religion a la carte.


Read the rest of this thread carefully. No religion here only "just desserts".



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23 Nov 2020, 11:59 am

Adults with Aspergers tend to be trusting of others, even charmingly naïve. They are compassionate and caring, and many maintain the belief in the possibility of positive relationships. Your son's naivete may have allowed him to become blind to some of the dangers of dating a prostitute. These include:
* association with the underworld (pimps & crime lords)
* threat of contracting venereal disease
* association with drug culture
* vulnerability of being used by someone with ulterior motives

So since he is back at home perhaps it is time to educate him about the nature of dating a prostitute. He has natural desires to mate. As someone else said perhaps you can steer him in the right direction and help him find a girl.


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23 Nov 2020, 12:13 pm

RightGalaxy wrote:
My son who is almost 22 met a girl who he gets along with. They seem happy and chatty together. The other day he told me that her mom is a prostitute. She has a step-father but her biological father was a john. She works in a supermarket but is actively a prostitute as well. I can't accept this. He lives with me and now I'd like him to move out. He thinks I am mean. I sent this s.o.b to college and this is how he pays me back. He's staying with my brother now because I can't stand the sight of him.



So what exactly has he done besides date someone who's mother is in a profession that you don't approve of? :?


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23 Nov 2020, 12:45 pm

jimmy m wrote:
Adults with Aspergers tend to be trusting of others, even charmingly naïve. They are compassionate and caring, and many maintain the belief in the possibility of positive relationships. Your son's naivete may have allowed him to become blind to some of the dangers of dating a prostitute. These include:
* association with the underworld (pimps & crime lords)
* threat of contracting venereal disease
* association with drug culture
* vulnerability of being used by someone with ulterior motives

So since he is back at home perhaps it is time to educate him about the nature of dating a prostitute. He has natural desires to mate. As someone else said perhaps you can steer him in the right direction and help him find a girl.


In addition I would add, the OP can either get with the programme and assist / offer support where necessary, or throw all of their toys out of the pram and watch it all happen from a distance.

There's also the possibility this girl was lying just to see how much of an as*hole reaction they'd get. It's looking pretty conclusive so far, isn't it?

Conversely if she was telling the truth then fair play to her for being 100% honest, I can't imagine that was an easy conversation by any means. And well done for basically confirming that she'd have been better off lying.

Good grief.



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23 Nov 2020, 12:45 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
RightGalaxy wrote:
My son who is almost 22 met a girl who he gets along with. They seem happy and chatty together. The other day he told me that her mom is a prostitute. She has a step-father but her biological father was a john. She works in a supermarket but is actively a prostitute as well. I can't accept this. He lives with me and now I'd like him to move out. He thinks I am mean. I sent this s.o.b to college and this is how he pays me back. He's staying with my brother now because I can't stand the sight of him.



So what exactly has he done besides date someone who's mother is in a profession that you don't approve of? :?

Well it seems the GF and her mother asked for a large loan. That sort of changes the situation.


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23 Nov 2020, 1:01 pm

To be fair to the son, you can tell he went to college 'cos he managed to get it for free when everyone else was paying :D