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24 Sep 2007, 9:34 pm

It was only recently discovered that AS and HFA are caused by an extra nerve connecting the frontal cortex to a big toe. For AS it's the right toe and for HFA it's the left toe. Or is it the other way around? :?

Now they can find AS and HFA via an autopsy, but only if the medical examiner is up on current research. Maybe we could get a request to check for it put on our drivers licenses? :D

In a few years, it will be possible to donate AS and HFA to people who need it. Isn't science wonderful? :lol:


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24 Sep 2007, 10:34 pm

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The feeling is like I and many others are waiting for some event or something.

If this is true, I think it may be the biggest crock of sh** that a bunch of people were dipped in. If there is a magical God who thinks in these terms, I have a problem with all that. I live a dismal life being sucked dry by someone who has chosen not to work, something always happens that I can't put a couple of dollars together to start an online business, and I constantly feel learned helplessness as if that is the only feature of my life these days. Why would God want me to essentially be a giant ret*d who is flailing about and that's the way he keeps me in stasis until he wants to use me?

Screw that. I was raised with that pseudo-spiritual garbage by people who couldn't put two thoughts together with superglue. The world goes to hell in a broken down handbasket because people's ways of thinking are passive and do not add value. The only reason that we are like this is because we got screwed.


Tell me about it! It really does suck!


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24 Sep 2007, 10:36 pm

MysteryFan3 wrote:
It was only recently discovered that AS and HFA are caused by an extra nerve connecting the frontal cortex to a big toe. For AS it's the right toe and for HFA it's the left toe. Or is it the other way around? :?

Now they can find AS and HFA via an autopsy, but only if the medical examiner is up on current research. Maybe we could get a request to check for it put on our drivers licenses? :D

In a few years, it will be possible to donate AS and HFA to people who need it. Isn't science wonderful? :lol:


LOL! That would be quite the experiment. Try giving it to inbreds w/ an IQ of 70 and see what happens! Wait! I told myself to stop talking about G W Bush!


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24 Sep 2007, 11:05 pm

Why do people seem to attack those
of us with a bit of inbreeding? :P



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25 Sep 2007, 9:58 pm

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Does anyone know what the suicide rate is for adult Aspies as compared to the general population?
Weird. I was just wondering the same thing myself.
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I think the rate of depression or loneliness is high among Aspies. Since we are bad about not completing things I think that would reflect in that many Aspies think about suicide, but not many follow through and actually do it.
For a thread on suicide, we seem to have a pretty healthy dose of the Absurd.
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If there is a god, I am probably some absurd joke that he came up with for her/his/it's amusement....
Yeah, that's been my theory about god/s for a while--the big puppeteer in the sky. Beckett was most certainly onto something. But I'm glad you're still around, because it's good to know that other people feel like an absurd joke, too. When I lived in NYC, I channeled that sense into improv comedy. Bonus to doing improv: you get to hang with people who are way more socially maladjusted than you!



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26 Sep 2007, 3:55 pm

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Does anyone know what the suicide rate is for adult Aspies as compared to the general population?

affengeil wrote:
Weird. I was just wondering the same thing myself.


I've been wondering the same thing as well. I also wonder how many were women w/ PMS :?. I had PMS the few times I tried to off myself.

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If there is a god, I am probably some absurd joke that he came up with for her/his/it's amusement....
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Yeah, that's been my theory about god/s for a while--the big puppeteer in the sky. Beckett was most certainly onto something. But I'm glad you're still around, because it's good to know that other people feel like an absurd joke, too. When I lived in NYC, I channeled that sense into improv comedy. Bonus to doing improv: you get to hang with people who are way more socially maladjusted than you!


Thank you! :D BTW, you do have a point about comics :wink:


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26 Sep 2007, 6:42 pm

That could be an interesting study, prolly no more depressing than the rate for NT's. Once I visited Hawaii USA, and before I went a mate told me that in the US, Hawaii has a disproportinate rate of suicide. I was surprised and asked "really?" he said that Yanks who make a ton of money move there, and then discover that's as good as it gets, so they drive their Ferrari off a cliff.


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26 Sep 2007, 10:43 pm

affengeil wrote:
Weird. I was just wondering the same thing myself.


Quirky_Girl72 wrote:
I've been wondering the same thing as well. I also wonder how many were women w/ PMS :?. I had PMS the few times I tried to off myself.

Well, I had PMS while I was wondering about this thread topic, before it became a thread topic. That last PM night each month is the worst. But I try to recognize it for what it is, take a sleeping pill, and go to bed. That usually fixes things.

As for improv comics, and comedians in general--yeah, most of them are so socially awkward that *I* felt socially skilled. My life revolved so much around improv that I forgot what "normal" people were like. But you're funny and astute; you'd make a good improviser.



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26 Sep 2007, 11:04 pm

I've thought long and hard about suicide.

Luckily, when I was young and my life was as worse as it would ever get, I was also quite religious. This stopped me from killing myself as I feared oblivion. During my teenage years, I still had that feeling that suicide would be a huge mistake spiritually - that and the fact that as said by someone above in this thread "I wouldn't give the bastards the satisfaction".

Religion (in the general sense of the word) has faded from me. But I still resist the idea of suicide. Whether it's conditioning, left over from my childhood, or the instinct to outlive my obstacles, I'm glad I had that feeling there to stop me from going through with it.

Because life is interesting. I feel I'm starting to understand myself more now. I'm sure if I had topped myself, the very best I could hope for is that I'd have had to start this journey all over again.



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26 Sep 2007, 11:32 pm

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I'm sure if I had topped myself, the very best I could hope for is that I'd have had to start this journey all over again.

Karmic retribution (e.g. being reincarnated as someone with no access to chocolate or ice cream) is what's always stopped me.



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26 Sep 2007, 11:54 pm

So you'd be reincarnated as me! I can't have chocolate anymore as the caffiene aggravates my migraines... But I don't eat ice-cream simply because, well, I don't like it much. I think 'cause it hurt my teeth as a child.

I love chocolate though. :(



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28 Sep 2007, 6:19 pm

Suicide (among ASpies) is letting the NT's win!! !


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30 Sep 2007, 1:06 pm

Prof_Pretorius wrote:
Suicide (among ASpies) is letting the NT's win!! !


Why would they want to win THAT?



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10 Jan 2008, 5:30 am

This is truly a damn good question. - And Remnant, you sound like someone I know and care about - nearly word for word. I've wondered the same thing in the case of another. He's even calmly looked at me to say suicide is on his mind for the week. Not just because of me but because of work, friends, himself, the world, "ghosts" as he calls them, looking towards the "grim, bleak" future, & so on. Since he'd do the same for me, I have to consider the part this notion can play. Wish I knew those statistics though I don't know how much knowing would do. Personally I find it stark and surreal each and every time he brings up the thought of suicide. All the while knowing how capable, genius, unwavering his is. Apparently I am learning something very real and true here. Asperger's can involve suicide. Color me a dolt, but I'm here to learn something for good reason. Gee, for the longest time I was taught its just us flaky, emotional monkeys that resorted to suicide. The experts I paid all those years were full of crap.



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11 Jan 2008, 10:49 pm

I had a former client and mutual friend (same person) who was AS (1995 or so when AS was a new DSM). His mother was rotten to the core, father passed away. She shipped him half way across the country to live “near” his brother (2001), who couldn’t be bothered. He hung himself at the YMCA. He was a great person. Brilliant with music; should have been a band scout in LA. Life gets so horrible that some people need to get out. It is escaping pain, not wanting to die.

Oh, FYI, Autism Speaks is taking your brains for research. I wanted to start a thread on this topic, but have been swamped at work. I was so freaked out by this. It really is like they want to dissect an alien brain. They are looking for a cure (ha, they can’t even find a cause). I say keep you all the way you are and let society bend to accommodate. The worst thing I see here is how badly others treat you and how normal but misunderstood you are. There is nothing wrong with being different if others just knew what AS is.


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12 Jan 2008, 11:19 am

I still don't understand what autism is supposed to be. Self-absorbed? Yeah, maybe, but what about people who pay no attention to their own condition? What about differentiating between the different reasons?