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OHOHOH. Tell me about punishment not working according to some of our NT parents? I beg to differ. It seems today's parents have swung in the complete opposite direction. I, too, had a mother with deadly aim. I learned quick to stay on her good side, though I really had to work at it. The moment she gave me and my sister the Eye, we knew exactly what she was thinking. An Aspie not being able to read facial expressions? Perhaps, but I knew my mother's and exactly what she wanted. I had to know for survival. She once swung at me with such force, that when her thumb hit the doorjam (and therefore saved my four year old back end), she not only broke her thumb, she broke the door jam. There was no such thing as depression in our house, and forbid we got upset about anything. This was blue collar discipline. It was either a belt or her shoe or a switch, and we had to go get each, depending on which one she was in the mood for.
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I have the Glare and so do some of the family. When UbbyUbbyUbby had it at a very early age, we assumed it was a family trait. Sometimes I Glare at someone without knowing. One woman didn't speak to me for 6 months because she thought I didn't like her. UbbyUbbyUbby is learning to recognise expressions by looking at photos and role-playing. The other day I was frowning, looking into space. I was thrilled when he asked me why I was frowning. The kids have an advantage because there's an aspie curriculum that teaches that stuff.

Having a hard time quoting

OK...hopefully I can post without saying something stupid and inadvertently pissing someone off(everyone has a gift,this is mine)

I have noticed increased ringing in my ears in past 5 years.I have a constant very high pitched noise that is worse when things are quit and I am trying to sleep....I ow use a "white noise" machine,which helps a little,ear plugs make it worse.There is also a
"chirping crickets" that is also high pitched but distinguishable from the other tone.

I learned a few years after I got sober.....the ear will normally shut down(how?)when exposed to loud noises?However,it can not do this when you are using alcohol.Is there any science behind this or is it urban myth?

If true....ooops.I use to get very drunk and stand directly infront of the speakers at "rock shows" in bars.I liked to be up close to the stage to be totally lost in the music....there was always a nice opening infront of the speakers(imagine that,others had the common sense not to stand in front of them).I loved feeling the music vibrations coming out on my hands and face and I would dance with the speaker,lost in my own world and happily oblivious to crush of humanity at my back.


I have also posted about the....."hearing music in white noise" phenominon,there were a few others who reported something similar but it didnt seem to common.I often work overnights and it is very quit at times.Then I will begin to hear music,often very annoying elevator type music,occassional,I will hear words but not enough to be able to tell what is being said....I have gone to hunt down the sound(I worked with kids and DD clients and assumed someone had turned on their TV or radio)but everyone appears asleep.This has happened more time then I can count,and I eventually decided it was caused by.....
long term effects of having taken LSD in my wilder days.......After learning about AS,I did a little more investigating.

I found the source for me was the water pipes,furnace.....when close to the object,I would hear it as white noise....from a distance,it became music and whispered words(I wish I knew what they were saying!! !)I still wonder if this isnt an effect of the LSD?One of the things I liked about it was that it intensified a natural inclination to "see" patterns in other things....(wood is always useful for this)....


OK Lau....how does this work into your aspie brain theory.I am intrigued.

Post Paelo, don't let bad spelling stop the flow. Get the ideas down. You have a different slant on the world that could be lost.
I have never met such interesting people! All of your talents are amazing. The only thing is you don't seem to recognize them. ....maybe you are the next step in the evolution in mankind. I always thought it was the the group mind and telepathy, but maybe I was wrong.

Looks like I'm alone in here. WC has stopped flushing. Sleep well.

Not quite, nannarob. I was just catching up.

You found "tintinus". My favourite misspeelings of tinnitus are "tintinitis" and "tintinitus" - both of which also get lots of hits on Google (some of which are plain embarrassing, as they appear to be authorative sources).

I can think of quite a few reasons for hearing music and voices in noise. The main one is just that the brain is incredibly good at sorting patterns. It does amazingly well so often, but occasionally finds patterns where there really aren't any, hence the "words" that you can't quite understand.

Detecting radio signals directly in the brain tissue itself? I find this a little unlikely, but I cannot totally dismiss it. No single neuron is going to do it, but a whole swathe of them, stimulated in concert, could be an explanation. I'd then wonder if it wouldn't be directional - i.e. you could tune into a particular transmitter by rotating your head. Unfortunately for the while idea, there's a whole additional problem if the station is FM. With old AM stations, and a radio station that just transmitted a single channel, there's no great obstacle. You could well nigh decode the music by heat variation, if you were near the transmitter.

Who commented on the bones of the inner ear? That made me think of an unconventional idea that I can't recall seeing anywhere else. Again, it would have trouble with FM, but what it there was a fleck of iron embedded in one of those bones. It might constitute a primitive radio receiver, stuck straight onto a very effective amplifier. Somebody (not me) would still have to do some sums to work out exactly how close to the station you'd need to be.

I'm sure for the general tinnitus effect, sometimes it is purely damage/disease in the inner ear. It's a delicate bit of kit. In my case, I've never overexposed to high sound levels and I don't think any of the other obviously clinical causes applies.

I'm pretty sure my tinnitus is entirely brain function. I'm also fairly sure I turn my hearing of it on and off, at will. Reword that. My audio apparatus is unimpaired, it passes signals on to my brain as usual. All (or maybe, almost all) the specialised audio processing is present there. However, I have access, not just to the end result of all that processing, but can also use the raw or partially processed data, mainly under conscious control.

I've just tried this with my positive scotoma. This is going to take more practice, but I think can do that too, at will. Hey! I'm not at all sure if any of this is "useful". (Oh yes! I can have my own psychedelic light show, anytime I like - now I'll have to get the audio to work with it!)

PS. Problems quoting... the whole of this "BBCode" stuff is absolutely precise about what it will accept. E.g. to put in an html link, with a bit of text, it is [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinnitus"]Tinnitus[/url]. Now, as it's as picky as I've said, that failed because I put the URL in quotes. I've done that a few times. Then if you leave the quotes off in [quote=failed]this[/quote], that doesn't work!

PPS. The button along the top are of limited use, as they seem to apply to a variant of this software. I rarely use them, bar for the "Insert URL" and "Insert Image". See my list of stuff that does work.

I hate to be a 'joiner', but yes I have tinnitus also. Had it for years. While in Uni I worked in an auto repair shop(part-time), and thought I'd go deaf from the noise. We have an air purifer that makes lovely white noise so I can sleep. If I'm in a perfectly quiet room, it can be distracting. I also hear radio through white noise sometimes. I hear football games ! ! There's been times I couldn't get to sleep, and I'd go prowling through the house checking the radios, and the telly to see if they were still on ! ! I could hear the announcer telling the plays ! !! I've always put it down to my brain getting stuck in overdrive when I'm trying to get some rest. As for the theory of hearing radio waves, check Roger Waters album "Radio KAOS", it's quite amusing. A mini rock opera regarding a Welsh boy in a wheelchair who is sent to live with relatives in Southern California. He hears radio waves, and uses a voice simulator to call a radio DJ.

That's 12 with ringing in the ears. PostPaleo, ZanneMarie, CosmicCat, Lau, Hartzofspace, SeriousGirl,Tomart, Sinsboldly, YowlingCat, Krex, Rjaye, Prof_Pretorius.

Anyone else?

OK cosmiccat, lets do this more sensibly. Out of the 65 dinos, hands up those who DON'T hear at least a background (fairly indescribable) hiss. ALso, have we all heard of the Mosquito ringtone? I can always hear this, but one of my eight players distorts it so badly that it's easy. It may even be the wrong sound, anyway, as the Wikipedia version of it is totally easy to hear (and seems to be nowhere near the top of my hearing range - which I know goes up rather farther than average).

Interesting, that my players should vary so much. Only my VLC media player (http://www.videolan.org/) lets me hear the modulated tones on top of the 17KHz signal. I'm not certain that it's not an artifact. Anyone got the ears, etc, to tell me?

I hear the mosquito ringtone. It's one of the noises I hear.