The Dino-Aspie Cafe (for Those 40+... or feeling creaky)

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That the Live at Massey Hall version?

Don't want to dis Neil Young, but he really is on the decline.
Greendale, what the hell was that nonsense?
'Grandpa's Interview', do me a favour.

As for the victims. Yes, this place is full of them. But dont let it get you down.
One thing i learnt is you can't tell anyone anything.

Ah yes, The Moody Blues. I can remember getting all their albums given to me while at uni. A chap was moving and said "'ere ya go". I'd heard them on the radio, but just a coupla songs. So it was quite the treat to sit down with my turntable, and listen to each album. That was the wild and wooley seventies, so of course I had a little toke now and then as I listened, and went WOW. I guess they were the first to use orchestral arrangements, although Pink Floyd had used them on Atom Heart Mother. Guess The Blues beat them to the actual performance. Ahh, the good old days.
Merle, don't feel all alone ! ! I'm always aware of how we all post at different times of the day, and it's a laugh sometimes, someone will be saying 'oh, I can't believe I'm up so late', and it's mid day outside ! ! Funny how we all check in, as the timezones turn.

I love them. What happened to Mark Knopfler? You know, EF Cuz, I think I read he and his brother are cousins as well. I used to listen to that whole album over and over.



Through these fields of destruction
Baptism of fire
I've witnessed your suffering
As the battles raged higher
And though they hurt me so bad
In the fear and alarm
You did not desert me
My brothers in arms

There's so many different worlds
So many different suns
And we have just one world
But we live in different ones

Now the sun's gone to hell
And the moon's riding high
Let me bid you farewell
Every man has to die
But it's written in the starlight
And every line on your palm
We're fools to make war
On our brothers in arms



Fuzzy, do you want to sit in my egg chair and listen to them? How do you like what I did with coffee dude? He asked me to take him with me to Hawaii today. Fat chance.

[I'm just commenting on things I've read in the past 30 pages. These comments are not intended to juxtapose anyone else's current post (apologies in advance). If read that way they won't make sense. I was gone last week and could not comment at that time.]

Pages 106 - 111 contain references to Dino-Aspie tinnitis. I also have this, but assumed it was due to all the explosions I've heard while in the marines.

After seeing that it affects all of you as well, it made me reconsider, and think a bit...:

I believe that the "ringing sound" is not coming through my ears, but is actually chemical activity inside my brain which is being interpreted by my brain as sound. (I tested this in the following way: when wearing ear plugs, and with rifle range earphones over those, I still "hear" it, and just as loud, or louder. Also, whether or not I am using my ADD medication (which affects how I process sound in my brain, I hear the ringing. I find that the ringing gets louder if I am up way past normal - eg, when awake for 36 hours or longer.)

Chemically, the most effective treatment for tinnitis is the antihistamine hydroxyzine. Non-mast cell histamine is found in the brain, and serves as an excitatory neurotransmitter in the roles of:
1. maintaining wakefulness in the sleep/wake cycle
2. neural plasticity and functional recovery following unilateral damage of the brain
3. has contributing functions in attention span and learning/ memory formation and processes.

This leads me to the following hypotheses (which being mine are probably wrong ):

1. Our brains produce more than the normal amount of histamine (than is found in "normal" brains).
2. We have sleep related problems.
3. We have the ability to concentrate well and stay awake when we are interested in whatever we are working on.
4. We all have tinnitis. It's us hearing our own brains humming along, not a problem with our hearing.
5. Lau's theory of "plastic use" in our brains is supported***
6. We are smarter than the average bear.

These hypotheses can be tested in the following manner: if you take a small-size chemical antihistamine [Benadryl (diphenhydramine)- which is small enough to pass the blood brain barrier filter] the ringing should diminish or stop. [A large-size chemical antihistamine such as Claritin (loratidine) won't work - its too large to pass into the brain (won't pass the blood brain barrier) so it won't diminish the histamine levels in the brain].

I tried a Benadryl to see if my tinnitis would diminish or stop, but fell asleep so fast I couldn't remember upon awakening. Apparently, my brain crashes and burns when my brain histamine levels are diminished at all.

Anyone with a day to waste willing to take a Benadyl (diphenhydramine 25mg) and report the effect it has on your tinnitis? (note: it will make you groggy/sleepy/unable to think well for 6 hours).

***Lau's theory made me rethink my ADD medication's effect on my brain:
Not on the med: I can do math in my head, but have trouble processing sounds, and I see in tunnel vision. When thinking hard I don't see, hear, feel, or have sense of time.
On the med: I can hear, can see in panoramic view, but can't do the math in my head, or do deep thinking.

Perhaps my ADD medication "locks" my brain functions (and areas) into their normal "traditional" roles. Without the medication, my vision, auditory, and other brain areas can abandon their normal roles and "pitch in" whenever necessary (contributing an "all hands on deck" to whatever it is that I am involved in).
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Aside to Merle (or anyone else who can hear your own heartbeat):

Perhaps this is acute hearing and awareness on your part. If you've been doing this all your life, it is no cause for concern. However, if this ability has come on in the past year, or has suddenly appeared, or if the heartbeats you are hearing in your ears are very rapid (100 to 120 beats per minute or higher) - get it checked out. Could be anemia; may need to have an ultrasound exam on the carotid arteries in your neck to check for blockages. Of course, I'm hoping its been your lifelong acute awareness
Not meaning to alarm you - you know I just luvs ya and wants to look out for you!

Last edited by Chuck on 25 Apr 2007, 11:15 am, edited 4 times in total.

Chuck, going to "drop" some now, hehe, I haven't got to say that in years. Let you know what happens. It will take me 20 minutes to "get off", ooo this is fun.

25mg Benadryl

Umm, some one remind me to listen for it again I'd better put the time on or I'll forget that too. 11:09 eastern.

My skin very often feels crawly, to the point where showers hurt. I know this helps this as well. Naw Merle, doesn't have the heart beat thing locked up, I do too, but mostly when I put my head on a pillow.

Hey postpaleo! Haven't talked to you in ages! Thanks for "dropping" for the cause ! I was the world's worst guinea pig. Took the Benadryl, listened for the ringing .... 20 minutes later I fell over backwards with eyes crossed and legs up in the air - sound asleep for 6 hours. Ah, well,. Guess I needed the sleep.

11:45 eastern, noise slightly there, but diminshed greatly. Still listening, I'm sort of listening, I'm over here since the Moodys have been mentioned, again.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_t ... y=0&page=1

Ha! Eureka! Well, wadda ya know?! Maybe we Aspies got histamine plasticized brains!

If this ends up being true for everyone - we'll just have to accept the "ringing" (high wakefulness, good memory) as a gift, and avoid Benadryl (diphenhydramine) or hydroxyzine whenever we need an antihistamine for allergy control. Claritin (loratidine) would be better for daytime use for us (when thinking is necessary). We could use benadryl to shut off the ringing and allow us to sleep at night if it is keeping us up.

12:15 been a little over an hour since the drop, no difference from last report, still subtley there, not near as loud as the before drop. Wide awake, a little more mellow, which is a good thing for me. Memoery I can't really speak of, although I did remember the name of a Moody song I wanted to find on the above link, found it. It's not them performing it, well it is, just doesn't show them. It's Timothy Leary, in a slide show. I have head phones on so this expirement might not be exactly how I should do it. I wonder if this is the "peak", umm nice, maybe I'll do another"hit". Geeze hope I don't get addicted, last cold turkey wasn't fun Not eaxctly the last cold turkey, I had mayo with that one. Seems it doesn't affect run on sentances or wondering brain, or poor spelling. Oh wait, what's that??? Sleepy? Ok, I'm not good at this, body clock way off, this could just be normal for me.

PS not sneezing anymore and skin still a bit crawly, not really affecting the breathing, but I smoke.

Ha ha! Peak effect should "hit" at the 1 to 3 hour mark, 2 hours being most common. No worries - no addiction potential. Taking two adds to the sedation, but 50mg is the max dose - that amount floods all receptors in a normal brain. 50mg and above causes excessive drying of the eyes and mucous membranes, so if you are drying out, drink some water. And don't drive! Your attention will be affected and you could become drowsy behind the wheel. That would put you at peak around 1:00pm eastern time. I don't think listening to music will affect the results (I'd join you but HAL-lie has hidden my sound card somewhere). Thanks again for participating! Since I just napped, I think I'll try "Benadryl experiment, take 2" myself. Try to remember to check the ringing at 1:00pm. Thanks PostPaleo! You da man!

Ok, I "dropped" at 11:25am central time. I'll probably wake up drooling into the keyboard 6 hours from now, so I'll go get a bib. Right now I "hear" a high pitch somewhere in the middle of my head (almost as if it is outside my head, slightly above it and behind it). Better get that bib now.

I think I have to own up to Inventor not showing up here, in a while. It was my bad, my very bad. I spoke rudely and uncalled for. Just when you do that, please insert "alternet history" or "theroy" in it Inventor. Oh never mind, I'll do it from here. My apologys, ya old coot.

Yeah it's pretty strong in other spots, the victim, defeated, mind set. The way I look at it is this, I think what is happening in here, is seriously good. It's like, yes kids there is a life with this stuff and it isn't all that bad, once you figure out how to make it work for you and not against you. Put up an adults only sign and you just know some of them will have to look. Also another reason I still think the thread belongs here, it's a greeting to the olders that have just discovered they have been blessed with it and they aren't alone. The problem that some seem to have is it can get busy in here and probably seems cliquish to some. I don't know how to explain just jump in the water and pick out what ya like and have it in a spot where one might see it at the start. The 40+ label on it, I'm having a mental fight over. I would still tend to drop it 5 years and allow the same leaway that we have before, again, that's a point that would be nice to have at some spot that could be seen right off the bat. I can see the benifit of having a better adults section, however I go back to my origenal statement of why I think it's important here.

That song is not a good way for me to start the day. But we're 24/7 aren't we, so it's all good. I'll put on Cinnamon Girl instead, or fire up Buffalo Springfield, that'll work

Interesting point on CNN a little ago (I don't want to get this killing thing going, but this is still a good point). The flag was at half staff for the kids that were killed at the school, yet American soldiers are killed everyday in Iraq. Why do we drop the flag for the kids and not the vets? I think the flag in the front yard is going at half staff till they get em all home. Yeah, I really do have a flag in the front yard, I still think it's saveable. It is what you make it.

i got antihistamine when i was pregnant and my allergy went out of hand (covered under little red dots all over, which made me scratching, sleepless, and crying when it got me exhausted.) since i always got it but not as bad, expect that it seems i have developped astma now.




what a week !
-uncle, who raised me with aunt (sister of my mother, both died) has cancer, have been in the hospital, he was quite serene
-went to see an artmarket in brussels (saw the atonium closer than i ever had) with the people of our local academy
-informationday about master at the university (i started studying again, will have finished bachelor this year)
-did soundrecording with a friend-musician with 'wispering, shouting, singing'-improvisation which he said he'd turn at the local radio (a very experimental one, both the friend and the radio) but i can't listen to it cause i'm in the same area today. (living 160 from my hometown)
the friend suggested to do a painting during a concert of his, which we might do than end of this month
-had a guy who followed me three streets when i walked to the railway station (i have to be carefull with my friendly smile in the big cities )
-had a drink with my brother till very late at night, and both had a real good time (we went to the main bank in antwerp wow, it was like a movie, with the lady at the information bar completely zen, rollerstairs to go to the (don't know the word 'counter', 'box office' ?) and this lady was so friendly that my brother (he adhd, we're quite a pair together ) and i were joking that next time we'd come to take our money in several times in order to see this woman a bit longer.
-the music teacher called there is no class tonight , must say that 'do-re-mi'-ing would have been quite tough right now.
-i'm still breathing, my eyes are tired, my head stuck with words, feel also quite inspired to paint
and need rest...

I have the loudest in the right ear side. Higher pitch in the middle back of the brain, hadn't really noticed that one before, maybe it's the lessening of the louder on the right. Still there, still about the same pitch. Very low level of noise in the back part. Don't hear it now, interesting.

Kidding about the addiction, call it artistic liesnce or however you spell it. Wasn't kidding about either of the 2 cold turkeys, 3 actually, but I'll stay with the sandwich, thankuberrymush. Nap looking more and more likely. My matabalizam is fast, so I suspect this is about where I'll be for a while. 12:55 eastern.

I need to throw a couple of sound cards in both of mine. It takes the load off the cpu, which doesn't really affect the one, because it's a freakin monster, this one it would help. I also am thinking it's what I need to get the casettes recorded to the hard drive. I know there is software to do it just running it into the input jack, but think it would be better going through a sound card.

I like having the Dino-Aspie cafe on one thread. That way I don't miss anyone's thoughts or posts. I think if we had an entire forum with lots of divided topics I'd miss lots of stuff, and I LOVE reading what everyone has to say! So I hope they don't change it, but that's just me being selfish. If everyone else wants a forum, I'll try to keep up. As far as age restriction - I don't care how old anyone is. I still feel like a kid myself. And I'm lazy and type slow - on one thread I only have to type once.

Don't kick yourself for challenging Inventor's alternative theories Postpaleo! I'm sure he didn't take it personally. Everyone is entitled to their own points of view.

Wow! I'm already getting mellowed out. The ringing has toned down considerably at the 12:00pm mark, but I can still hear it.